Looking at upgrading to a Model X, I want to get the plaid but I just found out second row doesn't fold in the 6 seater configuration. The reason for the upgrade is due to my animal outgrowing the model 3 rear seat area.

I have a 140 pound German Shepherd and he is supposed to be around 175 pounds fully grown (he is only 14 months)

Considering this I was looking at the X instead of the S (I would have to remove the rear seats BUT I could get a plaid model s) but I would require to get a base with a 5 or 7 seater configuration.

May I ask if anyone has had an experience with these vehicles that could give an input. I was lucky enough to get a loaner model X base with 6 seat configuration right now when my model 3 performance is in the service.

Note: At the moment it seems I may remove the rear seats in the Model 3 to give me more time to think about this deeply.

Hey just wondering if anyone else has any experience with this situation.

I placed my model 3 order 2 days ago, right before the highland refresh announcement. Does anyone know for sure that I'll receive the new refreshed model?

I asked a few different reps in various departments with mixed responses. I just wanted to make sure I don't have to cancel my order or that I'd get the older model.

In my app the order still has the picture of the old model. Do they send out a reconfig request?

Thanks in advance.

I've got a fairly simple system, Solar Roof feeding single Gateway thru two inverters, with Powerwalls. Grid power, inverters, and Powerwalls connect to Gateway, and the Gateway feeds the load center thru the 200A main breaker. It's been in operation since mid June of 2023. Grid power outages are common here, so before getting the solar system I used a generator during outages. The generator puts out a 30A 240V circuit, which feeds my load center bus thru a sub panel from the barn. I was in the habit of manually isolating from the grid to do this.

Yesterday, wind took out our power once more via downed trees interrupting the supply. The initial estimate from BGE was about 3 days for restoration, they had many outages from the large storm. I'm only generation about 12-16 kwh on a good day this time of year, so even tho I had charged my batteries to 100% before the montages I was not certain about how long an outage I could weather. It only ended up a 17 hour outage, and we didn't run the heat pump, just ran backup propane heat. Got decent sun today, and might have made 3 days or more with low use and decent generation.

But.... I began to think about running the generator. I thought of two possible ways of doing this:
1. Wait until the powerwalls go low, throw the main to isolate from the Gateway, and use generator power as before, or
2. Run the generator at night, depending on the Gateway for grid isolation, to power low-level demand and charge Powerwalls

I don't know if that second method is actually feasible. Does anyone have any suggestions or opinions?

Hi folks,

What have you all done to resolve issues with your Falcon Wing Doors? I have so many issues with false obstruction detection, where the doors sometimes start opening but abruptly stops halfway and requires override. Other times it beeps three times when pressing the door handle, and requires full override from the main screen. Opening the doors in override mode takes ~30 seconds per door, which is quite unacceptable.



I have finally taken the time to describe my experience trying to deal with Tesla SC over this, admittedly, intermittent issue. I am really losing my hope that I will ever have a functioning car. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

December 30, 2022:
The car was delivered on this date. Model X Plaid, deep blue. On paper this was the perfect car for our family, and it even had USS, which was already scheduled for removal. I was really stoked! I noticed a few cosmetic issues upon delivery, which needed attention.

January 12, 2023:
The mobile service team came to address the cosmetic issues but realized the exterior parts they had were incorrect. They ordered the right parts for a subsequent visit.

January 17, 2023:
During another mobile service visit, the broken trim pieces were replaced. I also reported two additional issues: glue around one of the windows causing wind noise and the first mention of the problem with the falcon wing doors.

February 1, 2023:
The issue with the glue around the window was dismissed as merely cosmetic and not resolved. Additionally, the service team couldn't replicate the issue with the falcon wing doors during their visit.

March 21, 2023:
Problem lost in translation: I explained that the car doors wouldn’t open, mistakenly sensing obstructions. However, the service report stated that the doors didn't detect obstructions at all, and the case was dismissed as “works as intended.”

April 26, 2023:
During a diagnostic session, I brought insights from the Tesla Motor Club forum, suggesting the replacement of specific parts. The technicians agreed to replace the left side sensor and carrier. However, the replacement was delayed due to the unavailability of parts. Interestingly, during this period, the door issue temporarily ceased, possibly due to the warmer weather.

June 13, 2023:
The replacement parts for the April 26 appointment were scheduled to be installed on this day. However, due to the doors functioning correctly at that time, possibly influenced by the weather, and the onset of summer vacation plans, we decided to postpone this service appointment. In retrospect, this decision turned out to be a mistake, as the door issues resurfaced later under different weather conditions.

July 1, 2023:
Just as we were preparing for our vacation, in heavy rain, the doors refused to open entirely. Tesla Service's suggestion to restart the car was futile. They offered another service appointment, but it was too late as our vacation was starting. Throughout our trip, the doors consistently required manual override.

October 3, 2023:
Despite all prior attempts at troubleshooting, the case was closed as the issue couldn't be replicated.

November 22, 2023:
I arrived at the Tesla Service Centre armed with a wealth of evidence — timestamps, photos, videos, and detailed descriptions — showcasing the persistent door sensor issues.

Immediately upon arrival, while I was being signed up for a loaner car, I was informed that the appointment had to be canceled — the reason? They were missing something as trivial as ‘tape’. This was not just an inconvenience; it was a clear indication of poor preparation and disregard for customer time.

December 7, 2023:
This service visit was exceptionally frustrating and disheartening.

Rescheduled for the next available slot, I returned with a glimmer of hope for a 10:30 appointment. This time, I was left without a loaner car, forced to wait in the service centre lounge area. The hours dragged on. I stepped out for lunch, hoping for some progress upon my return. But no, the car hadn't moved an inch. After requesting an update, the staff nonchalantly suggested it should be ready at 16:00. "It said so in the app!"

The climax of this ordeal came in the early afternoon. The supervisor, with a casual demeanor, informed me that they were unlikely to meet the 16:00 deadline and offered a loaner car — too little, too late. My family trip was imminent, and the smaller loaner car wouldn’t suffice. In a desperate attempt, I pleaded for any solution that would get my car ready on time. The response? A technician approached me, only to add to the day's frustrations: they lacked the necessary tools for calibrating the Falcon Wing Doors.

My patience snapped. I expressed my profound disappointment and frustration at how unprofessionally the entire situation was handled. It felt like a culmination of months of unresolved issues, miscommunication, and now, a completely wasted day. In the end, I left the service centre, empty-handed and deeply dissatisfied, my car still unfixed.

December 27, 2023:
My third appointment, scheduled for this day, started with a slight positive note as I was provided a loaner car. However, my car didn’t even make it into the workshop until December 28. Shortly after, I received a call from the service center, claiming the doors were functioning normally and no parts needed replacement. After a lengthy discussion, I convinced the technician to adhere to the original work order and replace the specified parts. Yet, the actual repair didn’t commence until January 3.

They replaced door sensor and carrier in both FWDs. However, the saga continued without resolution.

January 5, 2024:
Frustrated, I reopened the service request, this time including two pictures and a video as undeniable evidence that the door issue was still plaguing my car.

January 9, 2024:
I requested an update on the situation, but was met with silence. The problem, as aggravating as ever, remained unsolved.

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Loaded up! No magic smoke…



edit: eat your heart out @h2ofun

been using Ring RTC 1000 since last august. but started to encounter issues, it seems to trip the cigarette lighter fuse on the vehicle. not sure how reliable the replacement would be. so i want to try other brands.

Long Range is up to 341 miles with the 18 inch wheels, but craters to 305 with the 19 inchers. I don’t remember the difference being that vast before

I know there has been some discussion about this in earlier threads but I'm now getting the dreaded squeak on the front suspension while at full (or close to) full lock.

I had the joints lubricated in 2021 and the upper control arms replaced in 2022 (both under warranty).

I'm now out of warranty and wondered if anyone else had experience with Tesla on this so some questions for the wisdom of the room :

1. If I book this in via Tesla what are they likely to fix and what might the cost be ?
2. I understand there have been revisions to the control arms - surely this is a tacid admission that the original design wasn't fit for purpose - how likely am I to be able to persuade Tesla this is something they should fix for free ?
3. Is it causing any damage i.e. if I ignore is it likely to cause more expensive damage ?
4. Could a local garage lubricate the joints ?

Thanks in advance !

How do I go about figuring out the used value of FSD?

I ordered a MXP in Sept with the FSD transfer option. It's arriving next week as a 2023 model. Because the price was $5k less in Sept plus I'm getting a $1k discount for being a Cybertruck reservation holder, the total car is $6k cheaper than me ordering a 2024. In addition I will be able to transfer my FSD to it where if I order a 2024 I cant do that.

The FSD is coming from my 2018 M3 that I'm selling soon. I'm trying to decide whether to keep the '23 or order a '24. I think the '24 will be worth $6k more on resale so that is a wash. The big difference is that my 24 would not have FSD and the 23 would have it. I find FSD useless so I get no benefit from it. But what's the resale benefit of FSD?

Anyone know?

I just read in some German news that Tesla is removing the subwoofer for the MY base model, first in the U.S. & Canada.
Tesla streicht gutes Soundsystem im Model Y
(for those who understand German)

They are saying that so far, there were 13 speakers, 1 subwoofer, 2 amps.
Now that's supposed to be reduced to 7 speakers, NO subwoofer, 1 amp.

Has anybody heard about this from a source in the U.S.?

I sold my Model 3 back in 2022 after never getting into the FSD Beta, was super bummed out.

With my Model Y arriving tomorrow, should it be just as easy as paying for the sub and activating it? Or, are invites locked down due to the current recall?

Hi,
I'm a new user here. I have a Nissan Leaf and am considering a Tesla that qualifies for the used ev credit (I'm fixated on getting that government money). What I'm finding here in ATL is that for under 25k, I can get a 2017 75d - 90d with 125k miles and up. If I drop back to a 2015 85kwh, those are just over 20k. Periodically I will see earlier 2012 and 2013 P85 for maybe 13k but 200k miles on the odometer. On the one hand, I lean towards the newer models, but I'm hesitant to spend close to 20k for a 9 year old car with triple digit mileage. When I look at the older models, I think, for about 10k less, I'm saving a good chunk of what a battery replacement would cost (and presumably those models are closer to needing a replacement). And if the whole thing goes south, well I'm out 13k not 20.
The only specific concern I'm aware of with the oldest models is the battery protection, but I think Tesla rectified that. Most of my driving is local and very little fast charging.
Are there any other concerns about quality, etc on the earliest MS vehicles?
Thanks in advance!
Jon

Hhhhh

Has anyone had their knob delivered yet? Anyone know when (and maybe if) the Enhauto guys are going to start shiping?

So this is gonna be a little long but it does shed a different perspective from what I mostly read online.

Back in early November last year, I brought my 2023 MXLR (10 months old) car to the service center because of a "passenger restraint system fault, service required message" that started appearing and disappearing but I thought I'd better get checked out. Initially I was told it would take an hour, but once I got there they said, better take a loaner and come back later. I got a nice model S for the day.

Around 4 pm I get a call from Amanda, who is a "customer advocate" informing me that unfortunately the technician accidentally triggered a module that caused all 12 airbags to deploy in the car. She was incredibly polite and understanding. She offered to have the car fixed which would take a couple of weeks or at my option, they can repurchase it from me so I can replace it with a new car.

I asked to see the car first before deciding. I head to the SC the next morning and I almost broke down and cried when I saw the car. It was completely dismantled and every thing was taken apart and every airbag deployed.

To give some perspective, I waited 13 months for my car, ordered 1/1/22 and picked up 1/26/23. My car was perfect. I had full PPF, tint, caliber paint job, carbon fiber exterior trim pieces, power frunk, among other things. No dents or curb rash or anything.
So I chose to get it repurchased by Tesla. From here on, things started getting better. The SC staff helped me get all my personal items from the car as well as any accessory or upgrade that can be taken off quickly off the old car. They switched my loaner with a demo MXLR with 180 miles on it. Amanda even came down to the SC from headquarters, about an hour away to meet me.

After providing them with receipts for the aftermarket upgrades which costed me $12K, and a little back and forth, Tesla finally agreed to pay me back the original cost of my car, $132K + $8K for aftermarket upgrades. It was an incredibly nice gesture from them. They have also let me use the loaner for the past 2 months. They even tried to match me with similar cars near me but they were not the exact configuration I wanted.

Of course I placed an order for another MX (Plaid this time) which turns out a little cheaper than my original long range price. I am losing some money on the loan interest going up and I do miss my USS in the old car and the door opening wide to greet me, but I will get some sublte upgrades like HW4, 5mp cameras and such. I am still waiting for the final payouts and the new MXP but it should be here shortly.

I have to commend the staff at Tesla (specially Amanda) for their understanding and courteousness. She always responded and truly acted like my advocate. Also the SC staff were incredible. Sorry about the long post if you read that far.

Hi Club Members.

I was an early Tesla 3 (Performance) owner and happily kept my 3 until last year when the FSD transfer was announced. It marked a $12k savings which seemed quite good and I used it to buy a S Plaid. I completed the Transfer agreement and had to change my order to a car in inventory so that I could meet Tesla's Sep 30 deadline.

I followed all the requirements of the Transfer and as expected, saw Tesla had removed my 3's FSD about 3 days after I signed the transfer agreement. Upon receiving the S, I noticed that my FSD capability was set to expire on Dec 1 and repeatedly contacted Tesla about this using the "Service" feature within the app. And they repeatedly told me not to worry because on "their side", it showed that FSD capability was part of my package. On Dec 1, or sometime around then, FSD was removed.

I have since contacted Tesla and they are now telling me that I traded in my 3 ahead of taking possession of the S and that violated the agreement because they were no longer able to transfer from the 3 to the S. I told them that is not the case and that they had already removed it from the 3. Then they responded saying I sold it 20 minutes before taking possession. The transfer agreement actually contradicts itself on sequencing but that is beside the point.

This is now a $12k problem and, among other things, devaluation of my S. Has anyone else had issues getting Tesla to honor the FSD transfer? I am going to attempt one last time to get this resolved through a Service Center and if not, I will unfortunately have to get legal support - which I hate to do given the fondness I have for the car and the company.

2017 P100D. FSD. Stereo infotainment upgrade package.

Mostly I hate the nags with FSD. I’m loathe to update because I hear they get worse. Is it true? Will FSD nags become worse?

Anyone unhappy with FSD after 2023.44.30.6 upgrade.

I already hate all the nags. Do they get worse after the 2023.44.30.6 update? I’m not updating yet and I look forward to getting replies.

TIA

I recently watched a range test on YouTube where a Cybertruck was driven at 70mph at a steady state under decent weather conditions until it could not drive. The truck got around 254 miles of range and consumed around 500 wh/mile, approximately.

Here's what that would cost per 100 miles at current supercharger rates across the US:

Here's what a Ford F-150 would cost per 100 miles at current gas prices across the US:

At these prices, the F-150 ends up being cheaper to drive under most conditions while also being quicker to fuel up and unrestricted by charging station locations. Here is a MPG equivalency chart at cost basis:

If comparing against the EcoBoost 3.5L, there's only one scenario where the Cybertruck comes out ahead (and just barely): $4.50/gallon gas and $0.35/kWh supercharger rates.

Now this is a very simplified analysis and doesn't take into account the following:

• Purchase price and depreciation.
• Home charging.
• "Fun to drive" and acceleration.
• Cold weather effects on charging and efficiency.
• Maintenance costs and time lost to oil changes, etc...
• The social costs to CO2 emissions and air pollution.

Otherwise, let me know if I am missing something obvious in the analysis above.

Hi all, I've trawled around trying to find my specific issue and the closest I've come across is a YT vid (linked below) which seems to explain, but the fix has not worked.

New (to me) car, brand new wall box which is definitely set to 32A. While the car registers the 32A limit when charging, it refuses to pull more than 24A (see screenshot). The video suggests it's a bug related to the location, which seems to be supported by the display showing 24A when not charging.

It's NOT supply related. Even with both the car at 24A plus my two powerwalls at ~42A, the charger recorded the voltage as 238V. We have a good mains connection here.

Does anyone have any idea what I can do to kick the car up to 32A? Thanks in advance.

The wall box is a Rolec QUBEV.

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Hello community!

Hoping some kind soul can advise here.

Our MY was reversing in a tight space, and the left wing mirror was scratched

Are there any recommended solutions in UK for filling the gap and touching up the paint?

I’ve had a look at Chipex, which seems to have kits with everything I need. Good option maybe?

Thanks!

Hi,
Ik heb een model S longe range plus.

Dit is mijn eerste periode ‘koud weer’ sinds aanschaf. En überhaupt sinds elektrisch rijden.

Nu ga ik heel netjes van 85% naar 61% in +- 48u terwijl auto stil staat (wel met sentry mode geactiveerd).

Meer leden die dit herkennen deze dagen?

Met rijden was het mij sowieso al opgevallen dat de batterij verder zakt in percentage op hetzelfde stukje route (in vergelijking met de zomer). Maar even benieuwd nu naar als deze stil staat.

I wish to purchase another model X with 600 mile nominal range, display panel 5 degree tiltable and tucked into driver front dash panel like what it was in 2017 Model. Does anyone know how long I have to wait?

I abhor how the display panel in current 2024 model X is installed (see attached image).

For 3 weeks in 2023, driver side door had to be kept shut and my way out was through front passenger-side door. That’s how I appreciated the beauty of 2017 tablet tucked into front dash panel, except that it lacked 5-10 degrees tilt capability.

What are the odds Tesla will offer Track Package as optional factory-installed equipment at some point? Don't want to deal with post-delivery install at Service Center.

Also, if I order a non-inventory MSP today, is there any way to be guaranteed it's a 2024 MY?

Not expecting any changes for 2024 but hoping for a very German silver color option.

South Australia is to activate and enforce the U class drivers licence from end of the year after enabling legislation was enacted in 2022

To get U:
Additional driving course
Special fines if traction aids or automated stability systems are disabled

Cars which require U class licence = 292kW per tonne or more)

Should not affect any EV sold in Australia??
I think the M3P comes in under 200kW/tonne??

While not sold in AU MSPlaid would require a U license in SA

Though the "driving course" is no more than an "online course".