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    <title>Tesla Motors Club</title>
    <description>Tesla Model S, Model 3, Model X, Model Y, Roadster, Cybertruck, Semi, and EV owners and enthusiasts forum, news blog, and community</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2021 16:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Solar Edge Inverter revenue grade plus meter</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2021 02:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/solar-edge-inverter-revenue-grade-plus-meter.222230/</link>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (h2ofun)</author>
      <dc:creator>h2ofun</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[I just got my new inverter and it has this revenue grade plus card.  How does it behave differently than my other without?]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Coronavirus</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2021 02:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/coronavirus.183324/</link>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (Wenche)</author>
      <dc:creator>Wenche</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[I didn’t find a tread suitable for this topic, so here I go. I found this page that claims to have a real time update on the Corona Virus. It shows nubers of infected, deaths, and recovered from the virus. It also include a realtime view of the building of the Wuhan hospital. Anyone here familiar with the sours of this live stream? I think this virus might might be a matter to consider as a TSLA shareholder....<br />
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<a href="https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/coronavirus.183324/" class="internalLink">Coronavirus</a>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Going down for maintenance this weekend</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2021 02:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/going-down-for-maintenance-this-weekend.222200/</link>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (doug)</author>
      <dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi folks,<br />
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Starting around 9pm EST tonight we&#039;re going to start working on some much needed upgrades and maintenance.  During that time the site will be in a read-only mode, so you&#039;ll be able to browse but won&#039;t be able to post to the forum.  If for some odd reason, you do manage to post, that data will be lost to the aether when we switch over.  We&#039;re giving ourselves the weekend to work on it, so we&#039;ll be back up by Monday morning at the latest.<br />
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When done, there will be some minor...<br />
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<a href="https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/going-down-for-maintenance-this-weekend.222200/" class="internalLink">Going down for maintenance this weekend</a>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>$5500 main panel upgrade??</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2021 02:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/5500-main-panel-upgrade.222098/</link>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (bayareaever)</author>
      <dc:creator>bayareaever</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[I have a pending solar roof+ 3 PW install pending in the SF Bay Area. <br />
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The main hold up to scheduling install at this point is me agreeing to a $5500 main panel upgrade charge.  This was added after the initial site survey. <br />
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My advisor has yet to tell me why it needs upgrading.  It is 8 years old, 200 amp service.  He mentioned clearance from the gas main, but that was never an issue previously and it’s 4 feet from the gas main, which should be sufficient afaik. <br />
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Even if does need...<br />
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<a href="https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/5500-main-panel-upgrade.222098/" class="internalLink">$5500 main panel upgrade??</a>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Consolidated eMMC Thread (MCU repair) (Black Center Screen)</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2021 02:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/consolidated-emmc-thread-mcu-repair-black-center-screen.181124/</link>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (Wiki)</author>
      <dc:creator>Wiki</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[***  If you have the 8 gig eMMC you should qualify for free replacement ***<br />
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Tesla has decided to voluntarily and proactively recall some Model S and Model X vehicles to update software and to replace the 8GB embedded MultiMediaCard (eMMC) in the media control unit (MCU). This recall applies only to Model S and Model X vehicles built before March 2018 that are equipped with an 8GB embedded MultiMediaCard (eMMC) in the MCU that may experience a malfunction due to accumulated wear. Model S and...<br />
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<a href="https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/consolidated-emmc-thread-mcu-repair-black-center-screen.181124/" class="internalLink">Consolidated eMMC Thread (MCU repair) (Black Center Screen)</a>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>2021.4.11 Regen Cold Dots Missing</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2021 02:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/2021-4-11-regen-cold-dots-missing.222210/</link>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (bob_loblaw)</author>
      <dc:creator>bob_loblaw</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Just updated 2 days ago on my 2020 M3 LR and noticed that I&#039;ve got zero cold battery dots on my regen bar even though my car&#039;s been parked in 40 deg F weather. Anyone else in colder climates seeing this?<br />
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Sidenote--nice to see they moved the parking break icon up to the gear indicator now, no longer blocked by my right hand.]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Summer tires soon? (Someone had to ask first.. lol)</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2021 02:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/summer-tires-soon-someone-had-to-ask-first-lol.222176/</link>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (JamstationP85D)</author>
      <dc:creator>JamstationP85D</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[I know its early March and yes I know there will still be another dump of snow. But I really really really want to put my summer 21&#039;s, lowering links, and spacers back on my car!! I also picked up the Maxton front lip for my car too so I feel like a kid waiting for xmas to come. <br />
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It looks like spring next week in Toronto!<br />
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      <title>Any Model Y with new projector headlights in the USA?</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2021 02:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (ratsbew)</author>
      <dc:creator>ratsbew</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[I searched, but didn&#039;t find any info. Are new Ys being delivered with the new LED matrix projector headlights in the US market? I&#039;m holding off for that along with the new center console before ordering.]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Tesla Plans to Expand FSD Beta Rollout Next Month</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2021 02:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-plans-to-expand-fsd-beta-rollout-next-month.222041/</link>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (TMC Staff)</author>
      <dc:creator>TMC Staff</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Tesla plans next month a wider rollout of its Full Self-Driving Beta software with an “Autosteer on city streets” feature, Chief Executive Elon Musk tweeted. The self-driving software enables Tesla vehicles for features like Navigate on Autopilot, Auto Lane Change, Autopark, Summon, and Traffic Light and Stop Sign Control. Yes, beta will be offered much...<br />
<a href="https://teslamotorsclub.com/blog/2021/03/03/tesla-plans-to-expand-fsd-beta-rollout-next-month/" class="fc-wpuri-bbcode" style="background-color: rgb(204,0,0);padding: 8px 31px;float: left;margin-top: 20px;color: #FFF;text-align: center;" target="_blank">READ FULL ARTICLE</a>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Pic of your Model 3.......RIGHT NOW!</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2021 02:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/pic-of-your-model-3-right-now.150647/</link>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (amoney805)</author>
      <dc:creator>amoney805</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[No posing, just post pics of your car wherever it may be and have fun with it!

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      <title>Tesla, TSLA &amp; the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2021 02:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-tsla-the-investment-world-the-perpetual-investors-roundtable.139047/</link>
      <guid>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-tsla-the-investment-world-the-perpetual-investors-roundtable.139047/</guid>
      <author>invalid@example.com (AudubonB)</author>
      <dc:creator>AudubonB</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Welcome to the 2019 Investors&#039; Roundtable.  This year, we are not going to try to split discussions between a &quot;Market Action&quot; and a &quot;General&quot; thread, as years of experience has shown all are too enthusiastic about putting their opinions and observations in a fairly random dispersion.<br />
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So post here - but as a specific topic gets discussed over a series of posts, we&#039;ll split it off to its own thread; this Master Thread will serve as the catch-all unless and until such a pattern emerges....<br />
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<a href="https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-tsla-the-investment-world-the-perpetual-investors-roundtable.139047/" class="internalLink">Tesla, TSLA &amp; the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors&#039; Roundtable</a>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Need advice on data retrieval after accident with lying Fireman</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2021 02:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/need-advice-on-data-retrieval-after-accident-with-lying-fireman.221778/</link>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (Samhsun)</author>
      <dc:creator>Samhsun</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Hey all-<br />
I&#039;m new to this forum and am seeking some advice for a terrible situation I&#039;m in.<br />
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Last month I was driving my 2017 Model 3 to a hike in California. There was a narrow 2 lane road (one lane in each direction) going downhill to the trailhead parking lot. As I was driving down, I saw a Fire department utility truck driving towards me. I pulled over my car to the right as far as I could, close to an adjacent rock wall and completely stopped. The fireman completely stopped his truck as...<br />
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<a href="https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/need-advice-on-data-retrieval-after-accident-with-lying-fireman.221778/" class="internalLink">Need advice on data retrieval after accident with lying Fireman</a>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Trading Fans not into the Kool-Aid</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2021 02:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/trading-fans-not-into-the-kool-aid.208981/</link>
      <guid>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/trading-fans-not-into-the-kool-aid.208981/</guid>
      <author>invalid@example.com (Stinger63)</author>
      <dc:creator>Stinger63</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[I&#039;m a big Tesla believer and have put a substantial amount of money where my mouth is.  That doesn&#039;t mean Musk is without reproach.  Yes, the Almighty makes bad decisions that ultimately affect the share price negatively.<br />
I&#039;m not talking about Musk blowing weed out if his butt or insulting those who challenge him or even when he drops that share price is too high... All that is stupid but forgiven because he is a genius.<br />
What is far more concerning are more important issues, like Battery Day...<br />
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<a href="https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/trading-fans-not-into-the-kool-aid.208981/" class="internalLink">Trading Fans not into the Kool-Aid</a>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Considering 2021 Model 3 - Trade-offs to current cars on my mind</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2021 02:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/considering-2021-model-3-trade-offs-to-current-cars-on-my-mind.222226/</link>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (frontrangeM3)</author>
      <dc:creator>frontrangeM3</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[First new post here. Empty nesters, Denver Area. Have 2007 Z4 roadster (toy car), 2015 Q5 TDI (sporty camper tug) and 2019 Leaf SL+ (urban corridor runabout). Considering combining the Z4 and the Leaf+ into a Model 3 LR AWD. Have test driven before, briefly at least, have some understanding of the EV scene, but not of the Tesla twists to car ownership and travel. Been reading up here and chatting with the couple of owners I know.<br />
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The Leaf+ offers about 240 miles of real world range in town...<br />
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<a href="https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/considering-2021-model-3-trade-offs-to-current-cars-on-my-mind.222226/" class="internalLink">Considering 2021 Model 3 - Trade-offs to current cars on my mind</a>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>V11 is going to be HUGE!</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2021 02:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/v11-is-going-to-be-huge.203449/</link>
      <guid>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/v11-is-going-to-be-huge.203449/</guid>
      <author>invalid@example.com (diplomat33)</author>
      <dc:creator>diplomat33</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Here is a thread on Reddit with some leaks about the rewrite and V11 from someone with inside knowledge:<br />
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&quot;There are lots of cool stuff on the way! v11 is actually crazy from the things I’m told. Take a look at the CuberTruck UI for a teaser.&quot;<br />
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&quot;From my understanding, the rewrite and v11 should be out around the same time. I’m told v11 will be out about a month after the rewrite is complete. Literally don’t take this as any bit fact, but I have a hunch we may see v11 as early as late...<br />
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<a href="https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/v11-is-going-to-be-huge.203449/" class="internalLink">V11 is going to be HUGE!</a>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>How is your rear camera after MCU1 to MCU2 upgade (dark?)</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2021 02:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/how-is-your-rear-camera-after-mcu1-to-mcu2-upgade-dark.192205/</link>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (Battpower)</author>
      <dc:creator>Battpower</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[I have always had a problem with dark / underexposed image from rear camera, making reversing at night very tricky. I was told by service center originally that it&#039;s normal, but then revised to known issue with MCU2 units.<br />
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With the recent camera viewer addition, it is now easy to play camera steams from all cams and it&#039;s obvious on my display that the rear camera display (&amp; recorded image - which I find interesting) is much darker than others.<br />
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In another thread someone posted that owners...<br />
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<a href="https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/how-is-your-rear-camera-after-mcu1-to-mcu2-upgade-dark.192205/" class="internalLink">How is your rear camera after MCU1 to MCU2 upgade (dark?)</a>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Model Y vs Mustang Mach E</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2021 02:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/model-y-vs-mustang-mach-e.218796/</link>
      <guid>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/model-y-vs-mustang-mach-e.218796/</guid>
      <author>invalid@example.com (Radish11)</author>
      <dc:creator>Radish11</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi everyone, <br />
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I’m trying to decide between a Mustang Mach E and a Tesla model Y, and I was hoping to get an idea of the pros and cons of both. <br />
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The way I see it they are very comparable in terms of performance, perhaps small advantage to the Mach E but nothing significant, but the Mach- E is of course substantially cheaper with the $7500 tax credit. <br />
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The advantage I see for the model y is that would be able to get it almost immediately while would probably have to wait quite a while to...<br />
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<a href="https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/model-y-vs-mustang-mach-e.218796/" class="internalLink">Model Y vs Mustang Mach E</a>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Looking for some straight answers on Model 3 Performance Tires</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2021 02:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/looking-for-some-straight-answers-on-model-3-performance-tires.221949/</link>
      <guid>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/looking-for-some-straight-answers-on-model-3-performance-tires.221949/</guid>
      <author>invalid@example.com (jw310)</author>
      <dc:creator>jw310</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi all,<br />
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So, like a noob, I didn&#039;t realize the Model 3 Performance that I ordered only comes with summer tires. I have a few questions.<br />
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1) Is it true you can&#039;t drive the Pirellis that come stock under 45 degrees? Or is it 20? We&#039;re in the middle of season change here so it matters...<br />
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2) I just want to put a 20 inch all season tire on the car, understanding I might lose a bit of range. Is the go to the Michelin Pilot? Based on the website, Michelin is suggesting the Primacy MXM4, but I&#039;m...<br />
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<a href="https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/looking-for-some-straight-answers-on-model-3-performance-tires.221949/" class="internalLink">Looking for some straight answers on Model 3 Performance Tires</a>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Model X 22" Onyx Turbine Wheel and Pirelli Scorpion Tire Package - SoCal $4300</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2021 02:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/model-x-22-onyx-turbine-wheel-and-pirelli-scorpion-tire-package-socal-4300.217925/</link>
      <guid>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/model-x-22-onyx-turbine-wheel-and-pirelli-scorpion-tire-package-socal-4300.217925/</guid>
      <author>invalid@example.com (PlayaVista)</author>
      <dc:creator>PlayaVista</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Brand new - just picked up from Burbank Service Center last week and still stored in bag in my Model X.  Will post pic later but it is the standard referral award black Model X 22&quot; Onyx Turbine Wheel and Pirelli Scorpion Tire package available on Tesla&#039;s site for $8600 + tax.  <br />
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Have both purchased and sold wheels on this forum with last one being the referral Arachnid.   Local sale preferred.  Will ship via Fedex who will package and box.  Estimated cost is $450 from last time....<br />
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<a href="https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/model-x-22-onyx-turbine-wheel-and-pirelli-scorpion-tire-package-socal-4300.217925/" class="internalLink">Model X 22&quot; Onyx Turbine Wheel and Pirelli Scorpion Tire Package - SoCal $4300</a>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>Video recording of Rear end collision - Why not?</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2021 02:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/video-recording-of-rear-end-collision-why-not.218376/</link>
      <guid>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/video-recording-of-rear-end-collision-why-not.218376/</guid>
      <author>invalid@example.com (Jeffrey@1344)</author>
      <dc:creator>Jeffrey@1344</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[In November I was the vicim of a hit and run rear end collision causing significant damage to my 2019 Model 3. The driver sped off turning right before I could identify him through a license number, etc. <br />
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It was a block from my house and I was able to creep home. I was completely covered although it took two and a half months for the repairs.  <br />
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I had Sentry Mode enabled but it did not record that information. Why is this? Why not? It seems silly that in a rear end collision of this...<br />
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<a href="https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/video-recording-of-rear-end-collision-why-not.218376/" class="internalLink">Video recording of Rear end collision - Why not?</a>]]></content:encoded>
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