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    <title>Future Vehicles</title>
    <description>Discussion about Future Cars, Trucks, and/or Other Vehicles from Tesla Inc.</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2021 16:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Starbase, TX</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2021 01:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/starbase-tx.221936/</link>
      <guid>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/starbase-tx.221936/</guid>
      <author>invalid@example.com (Buckminster)</author>
      <dc:creator>Buckminster</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<a href="https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1366848696298561536" target="_blank" class="externalLink" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1366848696298561536</a><br />
<i>Creating the city of Starbase, Texas</i><br />
<br />
Not sure where located.  Is this primarily to build homes or rockets?]]></content:encoded>
      <slash:comments>2</slash:comments>
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      <title>Tesla Cargo Ship</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2021 10:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-cargo-ship.142508/</link>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (Buckminster)</author>
      <dc:creator>Buckminster</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="KarenRei">
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		<blockquote class="quoteContainer"><div class="quote">Watching the RO-RO ships travel around the world, something struck me.<br />
<br />
I&#039;ve written a couple times (here and elsewhere) about how while it&#039;s not economically practical (with current tech) to make large electric-powered cargo ships that travel nonstop (don&#039;t care to redo the calculations yet again, but feel free to do them yourselves), it is economically practical to use them with floating &quot;gigachargers&quot; (deep sea wind, floating solar, inside a...</div><div class="quoteExpand">Click to expand...</div></blockquote>
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</div><a href="https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-cargo-ship.142508/" class="internalLink">Tesla Cargo Ship</a>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>VW will trample tesla</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2021 01:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/vw-will-trample-tesla.109291/</link>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (brakar)</author>
      <dc:creator>brakar</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[VW golf gas diesel or electric is outnumbering any other car manufacturer 5 to one even tesla all models combined.<br />
<br />
tesla will be trampled cuz it is a crap company<br />
<br />
(subsidiary, how do I delete my account?)]]></content:encoded>
      <slash:comments>235</slash:comments>
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      <title>Tesla humanoid robot</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2021 11:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-humanoid-robot.212391/</link>
      <guid>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-humanoid-robot.212391/</guid>
      <author>invalid@example.com (Buckminster)</author>
      <dc:creator>Buckminster</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Discussed here:<br />
<iframe width="500" height="300" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/lAdVJU6f_mc?wmode=opaque" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe><br />
~20% chance that Elon announces development earlier than 2026?<br />
They would be useful on Mars...]]></content:encoded>
      <slash:comments>3</slash:comments>
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      <title>Project Dojo - the SaaS Product?</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2021 11:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/project-dojo-the-saas-product.150696/</link>
      <guid>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/project-dojo-the-saas-product.150696/</guid>
      <author>invalid@example.com (Buckminster)</author>
      <dc:creator>Buckminster</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Interesting thread on Project Dojo:<br />
<a href="https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/project-dojo.150043/" class="internalLink">Project Dojo</a><br />
<br />
This discusses what I thought could be just the initial version of Dojo.  It occurred to me that Elon could be thinking bigger (following the simple task of making Teslas autonomous...).  Other possibilities:<br />
<ol>
<li>Google alternative</li>
<li>Openai competitor (Elon removed himself for a reason?)</li>
<li>Neuralink input / output</li>
<li>Self learning capability</li>
<li>Tesla insurance...</li>
</ol><br />
<a href="https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/project-dojo-the-saas-product.150696/" class="internalLink">Project Dojo - the SaaS Product?</a>]]></content:encoded>
      <slash:comments>6</slash:comments>
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      <title>VTOL Supersonic aircraft</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2021 00:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/vtol-supersonic-aircraft.128298/</link>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (Buckminster)</author>
      <dc:creator>Buckminster</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[I thought I would set this up as a starting position - to be picked up in 10 years...<br />
<br />
<iframe width="500" height="300" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ycPr5-27vSI?wmode=opaque" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe><br />
1:16 in.<br />
<br />
Key points:<br />
VTOL <br />
Supersonic<br />
Re-gen<br />
Very high altitude<br />
High density batt required<br />
Not required yet - I think Elon meant that the battery is not ready rather than the world being ready.<br />
<br />
Questions:<br />
Would this be Tesla building upon the battery tech, SpaceX or another company?<br />
Suitable only for long range flight due to high altitude?<br />
Competes with BFR?  Non VTOL,...<br />
<br />
<a href="https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/vtol-supersonic-aircraft.128298/" class="internalLink">VTOL Supersonic aircraft</a>]]></content:encoded>
      <slash:comments>31</slash:comments>
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      <title>Why aren't cars longer and skinnier for better payload:drag?</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2021 11:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/why-arent-cars-longer-and-skinnier-for-better-payload-drag.124180/</link>
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      <author>invalid@example.com (UncaNed)</author>
      <dc:creator>UncaNed</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Why not design cars with more legroom, or even add a 4th row or more storage space in the back? Wouldn&#039;t that greatly increase the utility while barely increasing wind resistance? Wouldn&#039;t a more limo-like shape be much more efficient? So what am I overlooking? It would be great if my Model X had more second row legroom.]]></content:encoded>
      <slash:comments>25</slash:comments>
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      <title>Poll:  Tesla RV anyone?</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2021 22:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/poll-tesla-rv-anyone.215432/</link>
      <guid>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/poll-tesla-rv-anyone.215432/</guid>
      <author>invalid@example.com (Tam)</author>
      <dc:creator>Tam</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Since Camping World (RV specialist) and Lordstown (Endurance Electric Pickup Truck specialist) have jointly announced their plan for &quot;Class E RV&quot;, would you be interested in a Tesla RV anytime soon?<br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a34980821/lordstown-camping-world-electric-rv/" target="_blank" class="externalLink" rel="nofollow">Lordstown Motors, Camping World to Build an Electric RV Together</a><br />
<br />
They plan to have one test electric RV next year, 2021, with mock infrastructure at Sams and Camping World locations.<br />
<br />
If the test goes...<br />
<br />
<a href="https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/poll-tesla-rv-anyone.215432/" class="internalLink">Poll:  Tesla RV anyone?</a>]]></content:encoded>
      <slash:comments>13</slash:comments>
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      <title>Electric boat</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2021 08:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/electric-boat.179649/</link>
      <guid>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/electric-boat.179649/</guid>
      <author>invalid@example.com (cybertrucker)</author>
      <dc:creator>cybertrucker</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[I wish Tesla would announce an electric boat.<br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.brainerddispatch.com/sports/outdoors/4329089-whats-outdoors-future-outboards?amp" target="_blank" class="externalLink" rel="nofollow">What&#039;s Up Outdoors - The future of outboards | Brainerd Dispatch</a>]]></content:encoded>
      <slash:comments>23</slash:comments>
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      <title>Tesla House / trailer home / travel trailer / RV</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2021 22:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-house-trailer-home-travel-trailer-rv.135487/</link>
      <guid>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-house-trailer-home-travel-trailer-rv.135487/</guid>
      <author>invalid@example.com (Buckminster)</author>
      <dc:creator>Buckminster</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[It seems possible that this is on Elon&#039;s &quot;to do&quot; list.  <br />
<br />
Fred suggested it following the Joe Rogan interview:<br />
<a href="https://electrek.co/2018/09/07/tesla-smart-home-elon-musk-efficient-air-conditioning/" target="_blank" class="externalLink" rel="nofollow">https://electrek.co/2018/09/07/tesla-smart-home-elon-musk-efficient-air-conditioning/</a><br />
<br />
Some ideas:<br />
<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline">Need/opportunity</span><br />
Housing shortage in many countries<br />
Entire industry remains mostly in the dark ages<br />
Millennials will want to live in a more mobile way<br />
Elon needs homes near Gigafactories - GF1 already has the requirement<br />
Musk School / hyper loop / boring tunnel /...<br />
<br />
<a href="https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-house-trailer-home-travel-trailer-rv.135487/" class="internalLink">Tesla House / trailer home / travel trailer / RV</a>]]></content:encoded>
      <slash:comments>15</slash:comments>
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      <title>Tesla Compact Hatch Coming?</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2021 17:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-compact-hatch-coming.199760/</link>
      <guid>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-compact-hatch-coming.199760/</guid>
      <author>invalid@example.com (T3SLAROD)</author>
      <dc:creator>T3SLAROD</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<a href="https://electrek.co/2020/07/10/tesla-small-electric-hatchback-elon-musk-designed-germany/" target="_blank" class="externalLink" rel="nofollow">Tesla electric hatchback: Elon Musk says new car might be designed in Germany - Electrek</a><br />
<br />
I&#039;m a huge hatchback/wagon fan.  It would be nice if Elon could deliver one with the high-end one being $35-$40K.  No need for it to be any faster that the LR AWD Model 3.  I hope this happens.<br />
<br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1281632660075319298" target="_blank" class="externalLink" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1281632660075319298</a><br />]]></content:encoded>
      <slash:comments>23</slash:comments>
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      <title>Tesla Prototype 1955</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2021 19:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-prototype-1955.217870/</link>
      <guid>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-prototype-1955.217870/</guid>
      <author>invalid@example.com (mach1)</author>
      <dc:creator>mach1</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<iframe width="500" height="300" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/BQPobA1MyFM?wmode=opaque" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>]]></content:encoded>
      <slash:comments>1</slash:comments>
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      <title>Tesla HVAC</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2021 21:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-hvac.136665/</link>
      <guid>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-hvac.136665/</guid>
      <author>invalid@example.com (Buckminster)</author>
      <dc:creator>Buckminster</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<a href="https://electrek.co/2018/09/07/tesla-smart-home-elon-musk-efficient-air-conditioning/" target="_blank" class="externalLink" rel="nofollow">https://electrek.co/2018/09/07/tesla-smart-home-elon-musk-efficient-air-conditioning/</a><br />
<br />
Richard Branson also sees the opportunity:<br />
<br />
<a href="https://newatlas.com/branson-global-cooling-challenge-air-conditioner/57464/" target="_blank" class="externalLink" rel="nofollow">Richard Branson launches $3m challenge to reinvent the air conditioner</a>]]></content:encoded>
      <slash:comments>28</slash:comments>
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      <title>How will Tesla make their next-gen sedan even cheaper?</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2021 22:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/how-will-tesla-make-their-next-gen-sedan-even-cheaper.129006/</link>
      <guid>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/how-will-tesla-make-their-next-gen-sedan-even-cheaper.129006/</guid>
      <author>invalid@example.com (ZeApelido)</author>
      <dc:creator>ZeApelido</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Elon has hinted a few times recently that there is a next-gen more affordable vehicle in the works. Assuming this vehicle is sold with a base around $25k to $30k, how do you think Tesla will be able to manufacture it to keep costs down far enough to extract a decent margin?<br />
<br />
Some guesses, I really have no idea about manufacturing costs so I could be way off: <br />
<br />
Smaller car with smallish battery (with future drop in pack costs) to get ~ 200 miles. Battery pack cost &lt; $5,000. <br />
Cheaper power...<br />
<br />
<a href="https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/how-will-tesla-make-their-next-gen-sedan-even-cheaper.129006/" class="internalLink">How will Tesla make their next-gen sedan even cheaper?</a>]]></content:encoded>
      <slash:comments>80</slash:comments>
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      <title>Tesla Motorcycle</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2020 14:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-motorcycle.188666/</link>
      <guid>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-motorcycle.188666/</guid>
      <author>invalid@example.com (outeast)</author>
      <dc:creator>outeast</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Any thoughts on a Tesla made electric motorcycle? I think it would be pretty sweet if they made one, why not?]]></content:encoded>
      <slash:comments>20</slash:comments>
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      <title>Report: Model 3 Inspired Compact Hatchback Planned for Europe</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2020 07:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/report-model-3-inspired-compact-hatchback-planned-for-europe.204540/</link>
      <guid>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/report-model-3-inspired-compact-hatchback-planned-for-europe.204540/</guid>
      <author>invalid@example.com (TMC Staff)</author>
      <dc:creator>TMC Staff</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Tesla is planning a compact hatchback based on the Model 3 to be built and sold in Europe, according to a report from Autocar. Details are thin, but it seems to line up with recent statements from Musk that Tesla needs a more affordable option. “We will not succeed in our mission if we don’t...<br />
<a href="https://teslamotorsclub.com/blog/2020/08/26/report-model-3-inspired-compact-hatchback-planned-for-europe/" class="fc-wpuri-bbcode" style="background-color: rgb(204,0,0);padding: 8px 31px;float: left;margin-top: 20px;color: #FFF;text-align: center;" target="_blank">READ FULL ARTICLE</a>]]></content:encoded>
      <slash:comments>61</slash:comments>
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      <title>The Lightyear One</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2020 05:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/the-lightyear-one.157450/</link>
      <guid>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/the-lightyear-one.157450/</guid>
      <author>invalid@example.com (Lasairfion)</author>
      <dc:creator>Lasairfion</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Here is a video by Fully Charged on the new Lightyear One, solar powered, super efficient car.<br />
<br />
Motors are wheel-in-hub; battery pack size is 2/3rds that of a Model S; but minimum range should be 400km, maximum with solar should be up to 800km. <br />
<br />
Solar capacity is 1.25kW peak for 10-12km per hour (sunny day) for an average in the Netherlands of 8,000 to 10,000extra free kilometres per year. Sunnier places will get more.<br />
<br />
Charge socket appears to be CCS with the two large DC prongs....<br />
<br />
<a href="https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/the-lightyear-one.157450/" class="internalLink">The Lightyear One</a>]]></content:encoded>
      <slash:comments>8</slash:comments>
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      <title>Economy car: 2 doors or 4?</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2020 21:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/economy-car-2-doors-or-4.208302/</link>
      <guid>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/economy-car-2-doors-or-4.208302/</guid>
      <author>invalid@example.com (tonybelding)</author>
      <dc:creator>tonybelding</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[It just seems natural to me that the Model 2 (or whatever it’s eventually called) would have two doors.  The presumed size, the price point, the efficiency requirements…  Making it a coupe is the path of least resistance.<br />
<br />
And yet, a lot of people seem to be assuming four doors, because…  I guess, that’s just how all mainstream cars are by default now?  Except ponycars, maybe?]]></content:encoded>
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      <title>How Repairable Will Structural Battery Be?</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2020 03:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/how-repairable-will-structural-battery-be.209405/</link>
      <guid>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/how-repairable-will-structural-battery-be.209405/</guid>
      <author>invalid@example.com (theganjaguru)</author>
      <dc:creator>theganjaguru</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[I am curious how repairable the structural battery will be.  I’m a big believer of reusing things.  <br />
<br />
Seems like the only downside to a structural battery is that it could theoretically be much more difficult to repair since it will be part of the vehicle structure. Thoughts?]]></content:encoded>
      <slash:comments>23</slash:comments>
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      <title>ATV!?</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2020 10:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
      <link>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/atv.174582/</link>
      <guid>https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/atv.174582/</guid>
      <author>invalid@example.com (camalaio)</author>
      <dc:creator>camalaio</dc:creator>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Tesla made an ATV! Shown at the end of the Cybertruck reveal.<br />
<br />
I&#039;ve wanted an electric ATV for quite some time, and I personally like the &quot;sport&quot; style quad they chose to mimic (I had a Honda 450R). Typically one needs to keep the weight down for this though.<br />
<br />
Do we know anything more? Range? Power? Capacity? Let&#039;s find out!]]></content:encoded>
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