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Tesla Loses Two Model S Executives Before Sedan Makes Debut

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Yeah, can we keep the discussion on this topic in one place? I've already had to merge four threads.

So if you want to discuss the recent departure of Rawlinson and other executive(s) leaving Tesla, use this thread.
If you specifically want to discuss stock price, use the thread JRod mentions. (Some of the posts there have already been moved here).
 
According to the article, one of the execs left for personal reasons, the other unknown. Both did proper handing off of work before leaving, and worthy replacements (from Daimler and Volkswagen) have already been found.

"Personal reasons" is typically code for something else.

Wonder if this is related:
https://twitter.com/#!/elonmusk/status/156927468836630528/photo/1

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Elon Musk


The exec conf room at Tesla used to be called Denali, but I decided to move a few letters around. Seemed more apt :)pic.twitter.com/Raq5UaR6

 
a plausible explanation could be related to issues surrounding the three phase support ... if there was a conflict causing the departure.
I really doubt it had anything to with 3-phase, that stuff is back burner. Job 1 is getting the 85 kWh Model S ready for North America. Everything else is secondary (including the 40 and 60 kWh versions).
 
unless the penny dropped that the plug design won't work when it comes to the front burner...
The connector not working certainly would be front burner. But not sure how much these two guys would be involved with that. Let's not let what gets the majority of discussion here on TMC bias our perceptions. (I also don't want this to devolve into yet another connector discussion.)
 
Between the "denial" pic and herding cats thing, that's a bit disconcerting. Elon comes from the software world where schedules are almost hopelessly optimistic and overruns are the norm. If he was in conflict with other management about schedules, odds are much more likely things are behind rather than ahead.
 
From the cached version of the exec bios page http://www.teslamotors.com/about/executive-bios:
Peter Rawlinson
Vice President & Chief Engineer for Vehicle Engineering

Prior to Tesla, Peter led vehicle engineering at Corus Automotive, an engineering consultancy specializing in advanced engineering solutions for the global motor industry. Traditional vehicle programs Peter worked on at Corus include the X type, XJ and F-type Jaguars, Land-Rover Freelander and Discovery, Ford Fiesta, Honda Accord, BMW 5 Series and Bentley Continental. He also led development of the Think electric vehicle platform, which was done with only 5 engineers in 6 months, while still meeting cost and mass targets. Peter’s design set a new world record for best crash safety performance in the subcompact vehicle class.

Before Corus, Peter served as Chief Engineer of Advanced Engineering at Lotus, where he pioneered the use of advanced aluminum body structures, bonding cast elements with stampings and extrusions, an approach subsequently widely adopted within the industry. Vehicles using this approach include Aston Martins, the new Jaguar XJ, the current Audi A8 and the latest generation of the Audi TT.

Prior to Lotus, Peter was Manager for Advanced Drive-train and Suspension Systems at GKN Technology in the UK. At GKN, he developed an advanced drive-train layout with a forward front drive and axle-line, paving the way for safer and more spatially efficient vehicles only now emerging in the marketplace, such as the Toyota IQ.

Before GKN, Peter was Principal Engineer at Jaguar for almost a decade, responsible for advanced body structure design, layout and packaging, including crashworthiness. He was one of the first to apply computer-aided-design to automotive engineering and was an integral part of the team that advanced the integration of computer-aided-design with computer-aided analytical tools within a simultaneous engineering environment. That same methodology is being applied at Tesla.

Peter is a Mechanical Engineering graduate of Imperial College, London.

The other exec, Nick Sampson was a vehicle and chassis engineering supervisor.

It seems both have more involvement in chassis and mechanical engineering than with the connector and electrical side.
 
If I were to hazard a guess (and I'm about to, so so much for that rhetorical florish...)

Given Rawlinson's and Sampson's roles as vehicle/chassis engineering, and assuming arguendo that their departures reflect some internal strife, then I would wager that the disagreement was about the Model X, not the Model S. The Model S is well past the point where Rawlinson/Sampson would have much input (and, consequently, they'd have few potential friction points). But, we are less than a month away from the Model X reveal, where a substantial amount of fundamental engineering must be at the forefront.
 
Guys, I think it's much ado about nothing really. Peter Rawlinson was as far away from home (in the UK) as he could get in mainland US -it's a 10-hour nonstop from SFO-LHR. I'd put it down to homesickness. He's not even listed as an insider here: TSLA Insider Roster | Tesla Motors, Inc. Stock - Yahoo! Finance so, not sure how much he was able to cash out before leaving.

Nick Sampson appears to be even further down the totem pole and so, could have left (or been pushed out) for a myriad reasons as happens in many fast-moving startups every so often.

Tesla recovered from the loss of 3 bright engineers/managers in that small plane crash a couple of years ago. It'd not be any different now in my opinion.