Welcome to Tesla Motors Club
Discuss Tesla's Model S, Model 3, Model X, Model Y, Cybertruck, Roadster and More.
Register

Recent content by astrobill

  1. A

    MY Door Trim Discoloration

    @Bob2C Which month was your vehicle made and which Model is it? Do you not have any of the discoloration at all? If you do, how long before it comes back after a wash?
  2. A

    MY Door Trim Discoloration

    True, it's not a defect that warrants a recall from the NTSA or anything. However, the fact they made an apparent change in Nov 2020 -- or know that the problem dates to vehicles made before that month -- implies they recognize there was an issue beyond just "sensitive to some car care...
  3. A

    MY Door Trim Discoloration

    Sorry to say this, but I believe the discoloration will likely be back within days. I've cleaned it off a few times and it comes back within hours or days each time. It's either the material itself breaking down or road contaminants adhering to the trim, or both. The reason is likely because...
  4. A

    Should Warranty Cover? (Back trim piece)

    I'm re-opening this thread. I have a Model Y with the "degrading black exterior trim" issue and scheduled a service appointment for it. At first, they offered a "goodwill" cleaning. I pushed back a bit and pointed out that I'd already tried delicately removing the oily, iridescent film on...
  5. A

    2022.20.9 - Tesla Vision impressions

    Meaning...not at all...in which case *human drivers* then know to fall back on experience, understanding of the effects of precipitation, road feel, vibration, the and other inputs and methods that aren't available to the Tesla software at all. Tesla's "neural net" training is an attempt to...
  6. A

    Tesla Vision on HW2.5 cars?

    All: Everyone keeps stating that this latest update to "Tesla Vision" has the effect of "removing" radar or "disabling" radar. Again, as discussed -- and argued about -- in many other threads, it is NOT clear that "Tesla Vision" has ever actually "disabled" radar. There has been a lot of...
  7. A

    Radar getting turned off on Model 3/Y with 2022.20.9

    What are you talking about? Can you explain what you mean when you say Tesla is using "photon parsing" with regular cameras? I have no idea what that means. Are you referring to Tesla somehow using raw data from the focal plane arrays in their cameras to somehow measure distance to objects...
  8. A

    Camera Replacing Radar [when will tesla vision be activated on cars with radar?]

    You're re-posting assertions and claims by Musk that are unsubstantiated by data. Every other manufacturer (except maybe Hyundai or somebody) has done years of testing and determined that multi-sensor fusion is needed and that cameras-only cannot provide the performance and safety under all...
  9. A

    Radar getting turned off on Model 3/Y with 2022.20.9

    There's some evidence even FSD doesn't totally disable radar and still uses it (when present in the vehicle) for automatic emergency braking and forward collision warning, at least when FSD isn't active. It may even still be quietly using it when FSD *is* active. And it's still possible...
  10. A

    Radar getting turned off on Model 3/Y with 2022.20.9

    By the way, on another note, someone on here just pointed out to me it's not at all clear what's going on yet...to quote him: "...This is still not clear what's going on. the sighting is from a refresh model S. Those cars were made without radar since early 2022, so could just be one of those...
  11. A

    Radar getting turned off on Model 3/Y with 2022.20.9

    It has not been established that Tesla is "no longer maintaining the code that uses radar" so I'd be careful about assuming that. We know that radar-equipped Teslas have still been using radar, even in "Tesla Vision" versions of software, for things like automatic emergency braking (AEB) and...
  12. A

    Camera Replacing Radar [when will tesla vision be activated on cars with radar?]

    Literally LOLing here. There are three other threads on here with fan bois INSISTING to me a year ago so-called Tesla Vision de-activated radar (which it never did). Even "FSD" cars with Tesla Vision were still polling radar for AEB and FCW, at least when FSD was disengaged, and possibly even...
  13. A

    Radar getting turned off on Model 3/Y with 2022.20.9

    Yep. You're correct. There's a lot of research about how "vision only" systems perform at night, in different kinds of weather, etc. It's just not as good...and in some situations, quite a bit worse. For example, at night in the presence of pedestrians, vision-only systems do reaaaaallly...
  14. A

    Radar getting turned off on Model 3/Y with 2022.20.9

    It's not clear to me from the screenshot or the article if they're really "turning off" radar even with this update. Note that this was spotted, I'm told, in a newer Model S, so it's not clear the update will have the same effect in all vehicles, including radar-equipped ones. The wording in...
  15. A

    Camera Replacing Radar [when will tesla vision be activated on cars with radar?]

    What's really funny about this is the legions of Tesla fan bois in this any many other threads on this site who were claiming all cars had transitioned to "Tesla Vision" as soon as it was included in Tesla's firmware, and that radar had been de-activated in those vehicles that had them. Which...

About Us

Formed in 2006, Tesla Motors Club (TMC) was the first independent online Tesla community. Today it remains the largest and most dynamic community of Tesla enthusiasts. Learn more.

Do you value your experience at TMC? Consider becoming a Supporting Member of Tesla Motors Club. As a thank you for your contribution, you'll get nearly no ads in the Community and Groups sections. Additional perks are available depending on the level of contribution. Please visit the Account Upgrades page for more details.


SUPPORT TMC
Top