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    AC vs. DC fast charge

    We will see, but I have something else to think about. In France Nissan Leaf cost 32990 EUR (current version, not 2013). Zoe cost 20700 EUR. Both without 7000 EUR subsidies. But Leaf have 24 kWh pack, Zoe not (You must rent it 79 EUR/month). So we can assume some battery price (for final...
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    AC vs. DC fast charge

    On which side is time? AC or DC? :wink: BTW in Norway DC is growing 10-times faster then AC (by 222% year-on-year for DC vs. 19% for AC).
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    AC vs. DC fast charge

    Ok. We have some new confirmation: - PSA will introduce two new models this spring-summer Peugeot Partner Electric and Citroen Berlingo Electric with slow AC about 3,5 kW and CHAdeMO DC fast. So, even French manufacturer not sharing Renault 3-phase 43 kW on-board charging system (someone...
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    AC vs. DC fast charge

    Someone said that he will be 5 hours in zoo and want 11 kW. I was talking that 3 hours of 3,3 kW will replenish about 50% of SOC (in typical EV with about 20 kWh pack). Now someone else talking about meeting and other type of car. It's hard for me to talk with different people about different...
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    AC vs. DC fast charge

    I dont' think so. Because I wanted to illustrate that 3,3 kW is enought in situation where you stay somewhere for few hours. Right. And majority of people will not use more expensive charging if not need it to back home. On the begining also DC charging in many areas is free. But nothing is...
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    AC vs. DC fast charge

    I'm not saying 11 kW is not usable :(. Only that it's not economical for public use (it can be economical in private use when you using it often and not paying premium for electricity). 3 hours of 3.3 kW will replenish about 50% of typical battery pack. I will ask You something. Will You pay...
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    AC vs. DC fast charge

    Over 50% for sure. Check Eurostat data. I just don't see the need of charging when going to shop, to work, to zoo because all this thing are in 50 km range. Maybe sometimes I will plug-in if AC point is free, but for sure not if price will be like it is (2-3-4 times higher then in home). Anyway...
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    AC vs. DC fast charge

    Don't understand me wrong. 7 kW is slow not because I don't like it, only because that is the classification (under 11 kW is normal/slow charging, about 22 kW is semi-fast charging, 43-50 kW is fast charging level and maybe 100 kW we should name rapid charging or stay with fast charging)...
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    AC vs. DC fast charge

    ZCW is nice but £299 excluding VAT and P&P. (£370.80) => over €450 for private point without instalation. 230 V, 32 A => 7,36 kW maximum => minimum over €61 / kW This is slow charging, without autorization interface to sell energy, need EVSE cable and more expensive on board charger 6,6 kW for...
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    AC vs. DC fast charge

    I think same or higher prices of charging per kWh of energy. RWE AC points: 2x11 kW 3-phase: 3.699€ without instalation (private point) => 168 € / kW (if two cars using it) 2x22 kW 3-phase: 6.995€ without instalation (smart point with user autorization) => 159 € / kW (if two cars using it)...
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    AC vs. DC fast charge

    Nothing new in this article. Yes. I wanted to tell You that maintenance (total costs) will be comparable for 50 kW DC and 43.5 kW AC. Because the biggest cost is connection to power output (1500-2000 EUR/year). Hardware cost isn't so important if station will work 10-20 years. So prices of AC...
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    AC vs. DC fast charge

    Johan good post. Tesla did good job. I know that they exist and just tyring to tell you that they exist in every 3-phase motor, no matter what rotor type You have. OMG. I don't think it's "optimum". They will probably not tell others about their brilliant idea, so this AC 43.5 kW points will...
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    AC vs. DC fast charge

    To rectify 3-phase current with different power levels (11, 22, 43 kW) You need 6 power transistors bridge - power modules from inventer with PWM. No matter what type of motor it have (of cours 3 phase stator motors). In my opinion modifications will not cost 150 €, and I see some drawbacks...
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    AC vs. DC fast charge

    It's not bad idea and this is not new idea to use inverter. It's patented and have some isolation issues. If they licenced it or developed, I think it will cost more thant 150 €. You even can't buy plug for 150 €. "Before Tesla had developed the Roadster's proprietary powertrain, the company...
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    AC vs. DC fast charge

    I don't belive You. Simple inlet for Type 2 cost more than 150 €. If they modified controller to use its power modules for charging it's not trivial thing and will not cost 150 €. AC Propulsion did Reductive Charger several years ago, and Tesla not implmenting it in Model S for some reasons I...