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  1. keydiver

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yes, agree, but I got the impression from the EC that they have no plans for 4680 in a Model 3. Hopefully they're working on a different plan to get the IRA applied to Model 3. Maybe LFP Made in USA? Maybe that can't happen in 2024, but Tesla tends to think more longterm.
  2. keydiver

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I think Tesla has a lot more data and foresight to project sales for this year, and I sincerely doubt they would mislead investors during an earnings call if they know otherwise.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I think of the 4680 DBE development, just like Tesla's lithium refinery, as more of a "show-the-way" project than anything else. Several manufacturers have already announced plans to produce the 4680-sized cells, and once they are sure they have worked out all the kinks of the DBE process they...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    And semi. But, as we learned from the call, the semi assembly line is still quite a ways off, so no need to ramp up 4680 any faster. As Elon explained, a big reason for 4680 was cost. Other manufacturers were placing HUGE battery orders, making cells from everyone so expensive. But, now that the...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    But, isn't that exactly what WS and the analysts have been demanding, getting back to the 25% margins? IIRC, Elon himself stated at a recent earnings report that their goal was to get back to 25% margins.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    That may be true, but let's not forget what happened in 2008, when tens of thousands of people started defaulting on their car loans. Will they get another bailout this time?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Same thing happened to my wife and I a few months ago. I reported the video to Youtube and they took it down.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yes, for ONE QUARTER (4Q23) BYD managed to push out as many cars it could to its dealer lots to be able to claim it outsold Tesla. The media has beat this dead horse long enough, why am I having to hear it here?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yeah, you gotta love that headline, more complaining about not enough nags. And then, of course, they save it until the very end of the article to admit the testing was done before the update 3 months ago that added more nags. SMH.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Just a datapoint: I took delivery of my Model Y LR in January 2022 (ordered 9/21) for $52,900. There were a lot of crazy price changes around that time.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I had someone say the same thing about my Nissan Leaf back in 2012, at a Nissan event in Miami. Worst insult ever. :mad:
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I think your view is too US-centric, IMO.
  13. keydiver

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I actually saw a Fisker tonight at the Treasure Coast Mall. It really shocked me seeing it, as I haven't seen one for years, and I thought they were already bankrupt! LOL! :confused:
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    That's not how I remember it. If I recall correctly, the partnership broke up because Tesla wanted access to the raw data from the Mobileye chipset, and Mobileye refused.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yes, having 6 MPPTs would definitely help them avoid using Optimizers, like their older solar inverters. I love the idea! My Fronius has 2 MPPTs, but I can definitely see use cases for several more! :cool: