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    Free downloads for .STL speaker brackets etc for 3D printing

    Looks like if I want to cross them low, the Hertz would be the way to go, but the price, yikes. I'm bothered by what I assume is combing from the dash speakers between 2k and 4k, causing unpleasant spikes that make me turn the volume down. My theory is if I can move more of that range to the...
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    Free downloads for .STL speaker brackets etc for 3D printing

    @RWAudio where have you landed on a tweeter recommendation for the OEM location? Still the AN25F? I'd love to have something that would fit and play down to 2K, don't know if that's just a dream.
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    Subwoofer box in Sub-Trunk

    It ain't pretty, but it doesn't need to be. I wanted to share my subwoofer box build in case anybody is considering doing the same. I needed a 1.75 cuft box for my 10" sub and just BARELY got it in there. I think this is the biggest you could go with square corners, but you need to remove the...
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    Highland: position side mirrors further out to cover blindspot

    Same on my 2023, I've got them pegged and they still aren't wide enough. Half the drivers on the road think these mirrors should be looking at the car behind them anyway. I think the person who designed the mirrors is one of them and probably cuts people off when changing lanes. Nice thing is...
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    Hansshow premium audio upgrade for 2023 M3SR

    Yeah, I don't know if anybody has figured out what exactly causes the error yet, just that sometimes it happens. Most reasonable explanation I read is its the initial draw when the amp is charging up its capacitors. I just re-read a post from a 2023 MY owner that said he had the issue as well...
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    Hansshow premium audio upgrade for 2023 M3SR

    I'm not sure what it takes to get "errors", or if this is even an issue with the later models. I've got 1100w RMS combined between two amps wired to the 16v in the penthouse. Not a problem.
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    Speaker heads Unite

    Looks like the base model is what it is designed for. The sub seems to be designed for the factory location, which you have its just empty. The wire harness connects to the factory amp and sends the signal to the DSP then on to the speakers that are hooked up on the base model. For the inactive...
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    Hansshow premium audio upgrade for 2023 M3SR

    I wanted to share my subwoofer response curves. I've had a 10" sub in the sub-trunk, but it has a big cancelation at 61 or 62 Hz. I tried to cover that by playing my doors lower and cutting off the sub above 60, but its just too much for the doors. I was able to get the cancelation frequency to...
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    After Market Amplified Subwoofer and front speakers on a 23’ Tesla Model 3 RWD

    Here is a near-field response from my door woofer with no HPF or EQ. The low end roll-off is fairly linear down to 20. I read the article you referenced, and his measurements are similar to what I got from the listening position with a steeper bass roll-off, but the near-field shows that the...
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    After Market Amplified Subwoofer and front speakers on a 23’ Tesla Model 3 RWD

    Here is my raw response for a 10" sub in the sub-trunk and 8" Skar in the left door. I've got everything running active through a DSP, but again this is with no tuning. I can't remember for sure, but I must have mixed in the dash signal for the door woofer to get that flat response above 125...
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    Free downloads for .STL speaker brackets etc for 3D printing

    16volts in the "penthouse", which is under the right back seat. Safest is to power down the car from the screen, disconnect the 12v battery under the hood, then disconnect the 16v battery harness under the seat before adding the wire to the post. Lots of videos and directions around. Need to...
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    Free downloads for .STL speaker brackets etc for 3D printing

    I'm not sure what it takes to confuse the electrical system, but I'm running a 300w RMS DSP amp plus a 800w RMS sub amp off of the 16v battery without a problem. The 10" sub and enclosure I have just happened to fit perfectly in the sub-trunk. Its more than enough bass, in fact I've got it...
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    Free downloads for .STL speaker brackets etc for 3D printing

    I don't see any sound deadening in your photos, have you done the front doors? I did mine at the same time as the woofer swap, so don't have much of a "before" to compare to. But I first only did the metal. The biggest difference was when I pulled it apart again and deadened the heck out of the...
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    Aftermarker Sound Upgrade of 3 Front 4" speakers

    I was able to experiment with different high-pass frequencies for the stock tweeters, and I settled on 4K. Those FaitalPros will likely start to fall off at about that range when mounted in the stock location: You also get some nasty cancelation from the dash speakers off the windshield...
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    Aftermarker Sound Upgrade of 3 Front 4" speakers

    On both sides, pull the trim piece that covers the rocker panels and the area your foot would sit next to. Plenty of videos on how to do this, including any of the "Speaker Activation Harness" videos. You will see tons of wires bundled up just forward of the door, but if I remember correctly...
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    Aftermarker Sound Upgrade of 3 Front 4" speakers

    That's how the Hansshow harness does it, in parallel with the dash. The harness I bought from Amazon put them in parallel with the rear door speakers, which I think is dumb. Shouldn't be too tough to drop a wire down from the dash speakers, and you can find the tweeter wires behind the trim by...
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    Aftermarker Sound Upgrade of 3 Front 4" speakers

    Thanks, I did some more youtube research last night and realized that trying to fix the issue with more speakers is silly. I'll take some more measurements with everything running as tuned and narrow down the issue. Then I need to check the phasing and make sure it isn't causing a null. Might...
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    Aftermarker Sound Upgrade of 3 Front 4" speakers

    I haven't had an issue so far. I tried to set the sub amp gains by measuring AC voltage, but even at max gain never got to the calculated max. I left the amp gain at about 3/4 because 100% just seemed like asking for trouble. The other issue with the big draw when the amps capacitors charge up...
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    Aftermarker Sound Upgrade of 3 Front 4" speakers

    I am finally done with my DSP and subwoofer install! Took me waaaaaaay longer than I would have imagined. Sound deadener in the doors and trunk, replaced dash and front door speakers, 1100w amp and 10" sub in the subtrunk. DSP runs the tweeters, dash, front door, and sends signal to the sub amp...
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    After Market Amplified Subwoofer and front speakers on a 23’ Tesla Model 3 RWD

    Here is my experience with the Infinitys: Aftermarker Sound Upgrade of 3 Front 4" speakers
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    After Market Amplified Subwoofer and front speakers on a 23’ Tesla Model 3 RWD

    Best I can tell, the front door woofer signal is full range. Might be crossed over to take out some highs, since the dash handles those, but they are not just bass. The Skars produce way less bass below 90-100hz or so than the stock woofers on the stock signal. Sounds like you've got that...
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    After Market Amplified Subwoofer and front speakers on a 23’ Tesla Model 3 RWD

    If you are happy with the mirror tweeters, it might not be a plus to have coaxials in the dash. I've read that the reflections off of the windshield can mess up your staging. There are other options mentioned around the threads, I think RWAudio had a recommendation with no tweeter. You could...
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    Tesla Model S DSP settings

    I'm new to this DSP stuff, but have read a lot. Take my thoughts with a grain of salt. Its going to sound like trash if it is only getting signal from one set of speakers. I'm betting the dash and door speakers are actively crossed over at the MCU, so you aren't getting all of the audio...
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    Hansshow premium audio upgrade for 2023 M3SR

    The more I thought about it, I settled on B as well. I hadn't considered time alignment of the rears, but maybe it doesn't make much of a difference with the soundstage. I also figured maybe skip the A-pillars since they are just more midrange. I can always just EQ the highs out of the dash...
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    Hansshow premium audio upgrade for 2023 M3SR

    I'll admit I'm hijacking the thread a bit and going off topic, but thought people might be interested in chiming in. A quick aside, I ordered the Hansshow harness on January 20th and it is still marked as "unfulfilled". Wish I had just chanced one on Amazon, at least I could have returned it if...
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    Aftermarker Sound Upgrade of 3 Front 4" speakers

    I just got done installing a set of Skar NPX8-4 8" woofers in the doors. I used the adaptors designed by @RWAudio printed using the STLs that he so generously provided on his site plugged here: Home - RWAudio The adaptors are great, RWAudio even included a PDF with tips on how to print them...
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    Aftermarker Sound Upgrade of 3 Front 4" speakers

    Um, I'm sorry, did you say ISU 200 for under $200? Got a link?
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    Aftermarker Sound Upgrade of 3 Front 4" speakers

    JBL 4086AM 8 channel. I don't have a ton of money to blow on my tunes. Got it for $300, 40w RMS X8 at 4 ohms. Software has all the standard adjustments, signal summing, remote subwoofer level control. Reviews are great, and I watched a guy benchmark it at more than its advertised RMS, should do...
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    Aftermarker Sound Upgrade of 3 Front 4" speakers

    You can get a harness cheaper on Amazon and even cheaper direct from China. I went with the Hansshow because I figured there would be a better shot of it being wired correctly with all the different versions being specified. But if I knew at the time I was just going to hack it up to tap the...
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    Aftermarker Sound Upgrade of 3 Front 4" speakers

    I guess I'll have to figure out which are the center wires and leave those connected to the factory amp. For that matter, I guess I'll have to figure out which are ALL of the speaker wires. I sure hope I can find a pin-out somewhere, haven't looked yet. My DSP is going in on Friday along with...
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    Aftermarker Sound Upgrade of 3 Front 4" speakers

    I still don't get how it would mess with the navigation sound. I've read it does, but it doesn't make sense. All the harness does, as I understand it, is put the mirror tweeter and the a-pillar 2.5" in parallel with the L/R dash. If the nav sound comes from the L/R dash speakers, it should be...
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    Free downloads for .STL speaker brackets etc for 3D printing

    I'm looking at those Scars as well. Was it the depth that makes it tight, when you say the Focals barely fit? Here are the measurements I found: Mounting Depth: Focal ISU200: 63.5mm Dayton Sig225: 101.5mm, no wonder it does not fit Skar FX8: 77mm So those Skars need an additional 14mm depth...
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    After Market Amplified Subwoofer and front speakers on a 23’ Tesla Model 3 RWD

    So the L2ci turns on when it senses speaker level signal, then it sends the turn on signal along to the amps, correct? So I wouldn't need a signal sensing amp?
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    Aftermarker Sound Upgrade of 3 Front 4" speakers

    I think its more than just not hooking up the speakers, but the amps are different as well. I believe the partial premium systems do only have the 7 channels available, which is why when we use the "activation harness" it is adding the 4 A-pillar speakers by wiring parallel with the dash...
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    After Market Amplified Subwoofer and front speakers on a 23’ Tesla Model 3 RWD

    Yeah, I bet having 16 volts helps, don't need as many amps to get the wats. In my last install I suspected I was losing some power when the bass hit. I used what should have been adequate power wire, but it was run nearly the length of the car, and I didn't upgrade the alternator. Did you use...
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    Aftermarker Sound Upgrade of 3 Front 4" speakers

    Just wanted to share my experience with these dash speakers. Some are happy with the stock sound, I was most definitely not. There is a harshness to certain tones, mostly vocals, that make me turn the volume down. I also felt there were some frequencies underrepresented, not just due to the lack...
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    After Market Amplified Subwoofer and front speakers on a 23’ Tesla Model 3 RWD

    The 4032s are $50 for the pair. Personally, after hearing the difference, I'd still swap the left and right dash if I were leasing. But then I don't have the harness installed yet. You've already added the mirror tweeters and A-pillar 2.5", so changing the dash speakers in your car probably...
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    After Market Amplified Subwoofer and front speakers on a 23’ Tesla Model 3 RWD

    Do you know what speaker signal you tapped for the sub? Like you said, the amp is blocking the bass to all those little 4" speakers, but I wonder if you picked up the signal going to the front doors maybe you wouldn't need the accubass? I hadn't considered that issue. I assumed the front doors...
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    After Market Amplified Subwoofer and front speakers on a 23’ Tesla Model 3 RWD

    I was considering those Skar 8's as well, have you tried yet? I'm a bit concerned that the stock amp won't be able to do much with them. The stock speakers are rated at 80 watts, but it is unclear if that is RMS or max. The Skars are 175 RMS and 350 peak, so does that mean the stock amp will...
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    Hansshow premium audio upgrade for 2023 M3SR

    I haven't received my harness yet. Ordered on the 20th, no idea when I should expect it. What year is your car? The harness should definitely add some high frequencies, since there isn't a single tweeter in the system otherwise. Where do you hear the hissing, is it along with the music? Or...
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    Hansshow premium audio upgrade for 2023 M3SR

    That looks like it would be a sweet setup, but waaaaay outside of what I'm interested in spending. Love the car, but I miss the days when I could just swap out the head unit. I did step 1 today, put 2 Infinity 4032s in the dash. I didn't do the center because I didn't understand how that works...
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    Hansshow premium audio upgrade for 2023 M3SR

    Mine was build in December 2023. I ordered the Hansshow harness, so I'll report back in a couple of weeks for anyone else curious.
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    Hansshow premium audio upgrade for 2023 M3SR

    Not sure how to know for sure, but by googling looks like it was likely September or October 2023. Built in Fremont. I've read a lot of your posts, appreciate you chiming in. Any thoughts on adding a DSP? I was considering this.
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    Hansshow premium audio upgrade for 2023 M3SR

    Would anybody be able to confirm that the Hansshow DIY New Version 2022 AMD harness will also work for the 2023 Model 3 SR RWD? I think this is what I am reading other 2023 owners are using, I just want to confirm. I checked with Hansshow, and they say it will not work, but I wonder if that is...
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    Add DSP to 2023 Model 3 RWD?

    About the only thing I don't like about my 2023 M3 RWD is the audio. I've read a ton about the speaker activation harnesses, and I don't think I would be satisfied with that solution. I'd like to add a DSP amp to run the existing speakers, and maybe add a couple of rear deck speakers. It seems I...