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    For those who don't qualify for the Fed rebate, better to lease?

    I agree with your summation. However, as the OP pointed out, if you bring the extra $7500 into the lease equation then the financial model could possibly turn in favor of the lease. And it will result in extra sales that they are not currently getting from those who don't qualify for the federal...
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    For those who don't qualify for the Fed rebate, better to lease?

    I just ran the numbers on Tesla site for an M3 SR lease. MSRP of $40K. Payments are $366 for 36 months. $4500 down. Plus license and registration $1111 tax upfront It is very difficult to understand if they are rolling in the $7500 tax credit into the lease price. They claim they are but since...
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    For those who don't qualify for the Fed rebate, better to lease?

    With much due respect, this does not make any sense. The finance company is always able to get that $7500 from the federal govt. Under what scenario will they pass this amount to the lessee?
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    For those who don't qualify for the Fed rebate, better to lease?

    If the $7500 is not a cap cost reduction then where does it go? Tesla is not going to just pocket that money, correct?
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    I bought supercharger miles using points and they expire in two weeks ..

    I used my Tesla referral points to get 2000 supercharger miles (for 4800 points). These miles are due to expire in 2 weeks. Question is if I can get this deadline extended? We have some travel coming up in spring and I'd like to use these miles at that point. We normally do not use supercharger...
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    Will Tesla ever offer Lease buyout?

    Bumping this thread back up. Isn't Tesla leaving money on the table by not allowing lease buyouts? That has to provide a significant bump in sales esp from those who are not qualified to receive the tax credit. They of course will need to quit playing games by taking back the tax credit if you...
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    Model Y standard range battery LFP?

    Could someone please create a sticky on the front page with different battery ranges and types for the MY? And also for M3 in the respective section. We can't keep track of which battery is in which vehicle esp when the battery type varies between different manufacturing sites.
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    Did I get the older 2022 cameras on my new 2023 MYLR?

    Is there a way to look at menu options to see if we have the old or the new camera? Mine is a mid Dec build and I do not know what cameras I have. Visually, I can't tell apart based on pictures I have seen on same threads.
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    IRS raises maximum eligible price limit to $80k for Model Y

    Two observations. Looks like pricing are already up for the current inventory models. I see a demo MYLR with 600 miles selling for $56,400...
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    Discussion: Model 3 and Y price drop Jan 2023 / April 2023 / Oct 2023 and All other Pricing Speculation going forward

    I just priced out a new car on their website. MYLR Base is $53.5K White interior $1K Non White exterior: $1K for some colors. This already bumps it past the tax rebate cap. So tax rebate is only available if you get base interior and some colors. Or white with white. That is it.
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    Tesla OEM All Weather Mats vs Weathertech Mats for 2023 MY

    I ordered Tesmanian mats full set on 01/13 and they were supposed to be backordered until 01/15. Today is 01/23 and there is still no word on when they will ship. I have emailed them twice and got no response. Anyone else in similar shoes? Is there any way to contact them? The website has no...
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    Card Keys and Phone Access to MY

    These are all great points. I appreciate the responses.
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    Card Keys and Phone Access to MY

    I am a newbie and pardon me for asking elementary question. We just took delivery couple of weeks ago. We obviously got two key cards. I plan to put one keycard in my wallet and another in my wife's purse. And I plan to program our phones to access the car. ie. I will have my iPhone as the...
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    Tesla OEM All Weather Mats vs Weathertech Mats for 2023 MY

    I have ordered the full Tesmanian set but I have not received notification they have shipped it yet. Has anyone else used Tasmanian cargo liners in their vehicle? Any feedback on quality?
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    Another thread on Mobile Connector or Wall Connector - 14-50 Outlet Question

    Excellent feedback. Looks like Mobile Connector will do the trick.
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    Another thread on Mobile Connector or Wall Connector - 14-50 Outlet Question

    Here is my use case. I have an existing NEMA 14-50 outlet in my garage. I just purchased a MY. I do not want to run another cable to my fuse junction box and I would like to use my 14-50 plug to charge my MY. Wall Connector does not come with a 14-50 adapter. It must be hard-wired. It will...
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    Tesla OEM All Weather Mats vs Weathertech Mats for 2023 MY

    In addition, Tesmanian is offering a decent price for MY floor liners as well. Let's add Tesmanian to the mix. https://www.tesmanian.com/products/2020-2022-tesla-model-y-floor-mats-rear-trunk-mat-5-seater?variant=42171770437820 OEM vs Weathertech vs Tesmanian. All weather floor liners.
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    Tesla OEM All Weather Mats vs Weathertech Mats for 2023 MY

    I am looking for all weather mats for our newly acquired 2023 Model Y. The Tesla branded mats go for $225 and I am reading tidbits on this site the OEM mats are made by Weathertech. And Weathertech is also selling all season mats for $199. Question is which ones are better? Do they look and...
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    Why this disclaimer and reference to March 2023 for the $7500 tax credit?

    Any ideas why Tesla site has this disclaimer when you try to build out a model? What is gong to change in March 2023?
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    Model Y 2022 Parcel shelf?

    I just picked up our MY. It is 2023 model and came with a parcel shelf. Here is the picture. Is this how far this extends out or am I not pulling it out enough? How is this a shelf when it does not hide the content underneath? All the other car cargo shelves I have had in other cars extend out...
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    Model Y has anyone received 2023 VIN yet?

    Ordered April 23. Received VIN 12/09. Car is getting delivered 12/11. The onboarding process via the app so far has gone smoothly. I had called and changed the delivery to be from Fremont as I live about 30 miles away but I got the notification via the app they are delivering it to our home...
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    Stress on the high or low side of charge range

    You mean there is no minimum charge feature in a Tesla? I have an eGolf and that has a minimum charge level that I can define. This means, no matter when I plug it in, it will always charge to that predefined minimum level. And then it stops and follows the scheduled departure time charge level...
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    Rumour: Model 3/Y to lose stalks in 2023 model year

    Did this change materialize as reported by the OP? It seems model year 2023 M3 and possibly MY cars are hitting the road as we speak.
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    When is MYLR expected to switch to model year 2023?

    Yes, understood. My question is just academic. I am genuinely curious if the cars being delivered today are model year 2022 or 2023.
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    When is MYLR expected to switch to model year 2023?

    I know Tesla does not follow traditional model year designation in the cars but as a buyer in the purchase pipeline, I am curious to know when is Tesla MYLR going to switch to model year 2023. The VIN no has a digit for the model year. Has that already switched on recently delivered cars or is...
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    Model Y changes over time

    Anyone here knows if the USB-C ports are reenabled for data streaming?
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    When does model year in VIN change to next year?

    Just curious is there any process to this change of model year. It just can't be arbitrary and there has to be some sort of trigger.
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    When does model year in VIN change to next year?

    I just ordered a MY LR and it shows delivery Oct 2022 to Jan 2023. Question is when does Tesla flip the model year when building vehicles? The model year is baked into the VIN so they must at some point flip to the next model year. When does that happen in most years?
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    Refreshed Model S LR vs Model Y LR

    I believe one more factor that is working in favor of MY is the anticipated tax credits. Based on the numbers we know, it is likely MY will qualify for it and MS will not. Please don't flame me with comments the tax credits are dead .. i am just saying IF the tax credits materialize, they will...
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    EV Rebates may be returning soon including Tesla based off current administrations package

    The subsidy it seem is primarily going to help the manufacturers and that is perfectly ok for the government to do. We the consumers are not going to materially benefit from it as the manufacturers who had exhausted their tax rebate will raise the prices (Tesla and GM). The companies who did not...
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    Model S Lease Residual

    Could someone actually share their Model S lease residual value? It seems no one on this thread has shared the actual contracted residual value of their lease. Better yet, if someone could share all three values then that will solve this mystery. Lease Capitalized Cost Money Factor / Interest...
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    Used pickup marina del ray

    Do share the pictures of your used pickup truck when you get it. :):)
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    2017 Cars On Tesla Site Used Inventory

    This makes a lot of sense.
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    Sentry Mode bust!

    You nailed it. Couldn't agree more.
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    2017 Cars On Tesla Site Used Inventory

    This is very good info. If your car was sold with FSD then should it not have come with AP3.0? Could you or someone else clarify this point? I thought FSD needed AP3.0.
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    2017 Cars On Tesla Site Used Inventory

    The 2017 75D and 100D cars listed on Tesla site show up as "Full Self Driving Capability" Does this mean they all have been upgraded to AP3.0 hardware? And unless the previous owner has done the MCU upgrade by paying for it out of pocket, they should still be running MCU1.0? Are there any...
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    Is there any downside to Air Suspension?

    I will be in the market for a used 2017 Model S in the next few months. Wondering if i should seek coil suspension models or air suspension? My plan is to keep the car long term and i am concerned air suspension could become a maintenance issue down the road. Though i have heard the folks here...
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    Federal Tax Credit may be coming back for Tesla purchases

    I do not believe there is a way for them to track these tax credits if there is an income cap. How would anyone ever know how many credits have been issued at any given moment in time? If these were rebate checks like California issues then yes there is a way to track the no of "certificates"...
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    Impact of Model S Redesign on Resale Values

    Just wondering when do we start to see downward pressure on current used Model S prices once the redesign cars start showing up. I am expecting at least a $5k immediate hit on current used car values. And with more used cars coming on the market later this year due to heavy leases in 2017-2018...
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    Model S Lease Residual

    I agree with your numbers. Just curious if anyone here can share their actual lease residual on their recent MS lease so we could get the full story.
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    Model S Lease Residual

    If i build a model S on the Tesla site, the purchase price comes to $69,420. The lease terms offered for this same build is: $7,500 down and $923 per month for 36 month. This means the lease cost is: $40,728. I did not include tax in this calculation. My question is what is the residual value in...
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    Model S range and interior update imminent?

    Curious what the general consensus is on Model S pricing with the possible upcoming release of the updated Model S. it seems the Tesla site is showing a "base" S is less than $68K if you build it. Is the new model going to be priced the same or higher? And if the same, that would put a downward...
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    Some MS 75D have 0-60 @ 4.2 and Other 75D at 5.2

    Is there a way to know which of the 75D can be uncorked? Are these cars made after a specific date?
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    Some MS 75D have 0-60 @ 4.2 and Other 75D at 5.2

    Why is it that most 75D on Tesla.com Used Inventory section have the slower drivetrain but a few cars have the update that was released sometimes in 2017. Slower models have 0-60 at 5.2 secs and faster models have 0-60 at 4.2 secs. Why isn't Tesla selling all 75D with the upgrade? It seems they...
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    Tesla Model S Suspension

    Could one avoid some of these suspension issues by not getting the air suspension? There are only two suspensions on a Model S the Air suspension and the standard suspension. Correct?
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    Boring Company Shows Off First Completed Tunnel

    And for those of us with claustrophobia type issues, this solution will be a no go. Imagine getting stuck on a backlog while underground? I am a huge Musk fan and my recommendation would be to make the tunnels wider so as to not cause tight space issues.
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    Model S range and interior update imminent?

    Since now there isn't anything else to talk about .. let me ask a real world question here. Who here can predict what will be market value for a 2018 model year Model S 75D with auto pilot 2.5 in two years and three years. Two years from now is say end of 2020 and three years from now is say...
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    Model S range and interior update imminent?

    So it seems all the side discussion has no connection to the topic on hand. :-) Anyone here has any leads on the interior of the new Model S? There was a mention of the new interior with single tablet view like the Model 3 with no other dashboard in front of the driver. Any truth to those...
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    Car and Driver Model 3 Test - Not Great

    Completely agree. Like some of the folks here, i too am a long long time C&D subscriber and i find this article pretty spot on. Most items of concern mentioned in the article are the items that owners here on this forum have brought up so i question why some folks seem offended to view the...
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    2018 Model S Depreciation

    Any takers on this market price for a used Model S 75 question?