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Tesla may intend FSD Beta to be L5 at some point. But FSD Beta is NOT L5 now. Design intent still needs to meet the SAE definitions.
Do you mean FSD Beta has the potential to be L5? Maybe. But FSD Beta is not L5 in testing. From Section 5.6 page 25 of SAE document: "NOTE 2: In...
By the way, I created the primer awhile ago. "weather that human can handle" is my phrase, not a direct quote from the SAE document. It is based...
L5 is not expected to drive in conditions that are considered unsafe for human drivers like a flood or severe storm. I don't think anyone is...
I think the SAE document would disagree with you. Section 8.2, page 30 says: "The manifestation of one or more performance deficiencies in...
Based on the latest FSD Beta videos, city driving is still 1 disengagement every 10 miles or so. Not even close to reliable autonomous driving.
I want to echo what Needsdecaf wrote. When I first tried to understand the SAE levels, they seemed really complicated. I had folks on this forum...
New interview with Saswat Panigrahi, Waymo’s senior director of product management: Two highlights for me: Can you talk about the specific tech...
The SAE document does not go into that kind of detail. It does say L5 must be able to do the entire DDT and DDT fall-back with no design...
Cruise is teaming up with Microsoft to commercialize their autonomous cars. Here are a few relevant quotes: "Cruise and General Motors on...
This is not accurate. There are not different definitions of L5. The SAE only has 1 definition of L5: "The sustained and unconditional (i.e., not...
Tesla could geofence FSD to prevent that from happening.
Waymo Driver is capable of driving on freeways. The First Responders Guide does mention freeways as part of the ODD on page 10: The Waymo vehicle...
Yeah, that would be great. And I am sure Waymo will make their service areas bigger over time.
Yes, and the current geofenced area does that. If you watch JJRicks' videos, you will see that there are plenty of major shopping areas, including...
No, FSD does not have to be perfect and handle every single case. In fact, no FSD will be perfect. And yes, it might still qualify as FSD. But...
You mention some good scenarios for why 360 degree HD radar is needed. You are right that FSD is not forward-only. You need to track objects...
Yes. Waymo and others are able to read hand gestures. They can handle these situations.
I don't think we know. Yes, presumably it would replace the existing front radar. But we don't know if Tesla plans to add more than 1 per vehicle....
Tesla has filed with the FCC to use a millimeter wave radar for FSD: "The equipment under test (EUT) was an Vehicle Millimeter-wave Radar Sensor...
Traffic light detection and free-space detection are two completely different tasks. Yes, camera vision is a must for FSD. I did not say it...
Yes, sensors only provide the data. You have to process the data to get information. You've told us like 3 times already. Thank you for that...
So? We were discussing if lidar could do, not if cameras could do it.
Incorrect. Here is real-time free space detection with lidar: [MEDIA]
That works for highway driving where the forward direction is most critical. It does not work for city driving where you will fast moving objects...
Stop it. You don't know what you are talking about. it is still true. It comes from an authoritative source.
In city driving, you will have fast moving objects coming from the sides, like at intersections. So the sides are also critical. In rain or snow,...
Then why doesn't Tesla add 360 degree HD radar to our cars? Tesla doesn't want an additional sensor to help see through rain, snow, fog and dust?
Well he does say that everything will eventually go on the 2 eyeQ5 chips. That's just a temporary set up for their test vehicles. The final...
Nice video tour of the camera-only FSD on Mobileye. 12 cameras + 2 eyeQ5 chips and a PC. [MEDIA]
Yes. Lidar is better than radar for free-space detection. LIDAR "Lidar performs free-space detection more efficiently and precisely than cameras,...
Thanks captain obvious. Yes, that is how lidar works. I got it directly from the SAE: "Lidar performs free-space detection more efficiently and...
Thanks. That helps. Would you say that sudden braking for cars that pass across our path but are no longer directly in front of our car, phantom...
Ok. But a phantom object is usually the most common cause of phantom braking. That's probably what I was thinking about.
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Of course, you need a phantom object. Otherwise, it would be normal braking to avoid a collision.
Yes, that is the correct definition of "phantom braking". EDIT: it is a sudden braking for no reason but not necessarily because of a phantom object.
Thanks so much for the reply. I feel like it is good to hear from people who were actually in the Waymo car rather than us "armchair...
Rain and fog are not completely opaque to lidar. Lidar can penetrate rain and fog, it's just that it will lose some intensity with distance. 905...
You are still nitpicking IMO. Waymo cars are doing thousands of fully driverless rides every month with no issues in Phoenix but you are want to...
Also, if you pay attention, it was 35 to 30, not 40 to 30. And the rider even says that it was minor phantom braking. It looks worse because he...
You are nitpicking now. That was not phantom braking. It was too gradual.
That's not "lots of phantom braking". And so what? Tesla has phantom braking. I don't think any AV has zero phantom braking.
New video from CES 2021 today that goes into detail into Mobileye's FSD: [MEDIA]
New video from CES today that goes into detail on Mobileye's FSD solution, including how they build the scalable maps: [MEDIA]
At 23:26 mark we see that Waymo cars can go outside the geofenced area. [MEDIA] 00:00 Calling car 00:48 Ride start 01:10 New UI reaction 02:09...
It appears it will be delayed because there are lot of bugs in the update. [IMG]
According to this rumor on Reddit, it is coming this week: [IMG]
So they meant to say 1B km of data globally, not 1B km of roads and 8M km of data daily, not 8M km of roads daily. That explains the discrepancy....
@mspisars What are you disagreeing with? 905 nm and 1550 nm comes from the lidar manufacturer. And the visible spectrum is 380 nm to 750 nm....
