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I agree it's a bad deal without FSD but your comment was "even if it has FSD and Performance Boost.....this would still be a very bad deal." That...
I wouldn't call it a "very bad deal" if it had FSD. Can you even get acceleration/performance boost on an SR+?
Elon's tweet from about two years ago: [ATTACH]
Incentives and timing of incentives can vary a bit but are usually offered within the last few weeks of a quarter and therefore typically apply...
While you can't do it directly, a third party dealer can. If you find a dealer willing to act as sort of an intermediary, you can essentially buy...
I am amazed that this continues to create so much confusion, even among some long-time Tesla owners and active forum members. The optional FSD...
You didn’t mention how many miles your car has but below is a 2013 MS P85 with 99k miles for $25,895 not too far from you in Maryland. Used 2013...
I agree with the comments above. Finding someone willing to pay a premium for a Founders Edition car won't be easy. Those that may be willing to...
Some have argued that Tesla has done similar by including things like gas savings on pricing pages, or when they continued to promote and take...
Last month, someone on Twitter had claimed that they were told by a sales advisor that Tesla doesn't add any value for FSD on trades because they...
Then they shouldn't have added the tax credits to MS and MX residuals. It will be interesting to see if they do the same if/when Teslas qualify...
Potentially.
The cars I posted above are used vehicles. Demo vehicles would be listed under new existing inventory and would be identified as demos e.g., 2021...
If that were the case, Tesla shouldn't have added the federal tax credits (when they still qualified) to the residual values. This results in...
Not necessarily. Below are two 2020 M3 LR AWD models, same exterior and interior, both have $2k acceleration boost, 18” Aero wheels, clean...
I guess it's not just dealers that "do not understand Teslas" as what you are saying is incorrect. "FSD Capability" means the software is...
There have been some issues and inconsistencies in that regard where dealers have purchased Teslas (e.g., at auction) that showed EAP or FSD but...
The housing market was at a low point in 2012 in much of the country. The economy/market continued to improve which drove value increases. More...
I've seen a number of makes, not just Telsas, on the Carvana website with incorrect trim identification and other things. Poor data entry =...
Average mortgages rates back in 2012 ranged from around 3.35% to 3.95% (3.66% average for the year). They've been running lower than that...
I agree that people should just enjoy their car and not worry about every little price adjustment going forward. Prices changes,...
There's a mix of things going on right now. Many have chosen to refinance to take advantage of the record low rates while others have chosen to...
The M3 SR had also been available "off menu" in 2019 and 2020.
While the MY SR has been discontinued, you can still buy one new from their existing inventory right now.
"In demand" yet still seeing price reductions. Ten months ago, Tesla cut M3 base prices by $2k across the board and then just a few days ago they...
I believe Elon's comment was that he'd “look into” a claim that Tesla doesn’t value FSD on trades. I don't think there is any evidence one way or...
Don't buy too much into the Elon hype regarding FSD future value or that true (L5) FSD functionality will be completed and have necessary...
If Teslas become eligible for $7k federal tax credits, it will have a trickle-down effect on used values; assuming Tesla doesn't adjust new prices...
Texas has been investing heavily in wind and solar energy. Wind power installation surged in 2020, especially in Texas February 5, 2021 2020 was...
Tesla has a 2016 MS 75D with almost half the miles (59k), AP1, 1 year/10k miles limited warranty, balance of 8 year/unlimited miles battery and...
20. Ok 19. Ok, lots of press – good and bad 18. Debatable 17. Potentially, depends on location 16. Ok, it’s an EV thing but don’t have to charge...
Record low interest rates are driving a lot of the housing demand. You can borrow significantly more (get significantly more house) at today's...
I'm not suggesting people naively pay whatever a retailer asks but rather that it's not worth obsessing over price so much that it unnecessarily...
Federal and state level EV tax credits, rebates and other incentives are what help push EV adoptions but I think it's reasonable to expect EV...
Tesla’s MSRP also factors in overhead like real estate costs, inventory costs, employee salaries, etc. as well as varying degrees of profit and...
You don't "have to" negotiate, you can choose to negotiate. As far as MSRPs go, they're not really magical numbers IMO. Sometimes demand may...
Between Tesla price adjustments and limited time incentives, varying degrees of inventory availability and discounts by region/location, varying...
You don't typically see "WILDLY" different pricing like you may have in the past. This is thanks to the internet and that markups (invoice to...
How do dealers "keep the credit"? It must be applied for by the registered owner/customer. If the car is leased, it technically goes to the...
$36k is certainly low but expecting more than $50k in trade is unrealistic. Below is a link to a 12/16 MX 75D with much fewer miles (34k), 6...
Tesla has lowered prices a number of times. If a federal tax credit goes into effect again for Teslas, they may choose to raise prices....
It doesn't have to be that much of a crapshoot at dealerships. If one doesn't like to negotiate/haggle, simply accept whatever discounted price...
I don't think the attitude is that different. People also comment/complain when other brands lower prices or increase rebates/incentives e.g., if...
Possibly but Tesla also raises and lowers prices unrelated to the federal tax credit e.g., the base price of the MS LR+ dropped $10k in 2020 and...
Below is FSD ("Full Self-Driving Capability") as described on the Tesla website in 2016. It was a $3k option on top of the $5k optional EAP....
This was from 2017. The CNBC interview posted above was only a little over a year ago. I don't think Trump's opposition to the EV tax credit had...
The "final" trade offer is good for 30 days or 1k additional miles. Since you won't be taking delivery of your next vehicle within that time...
Setting an asking price only in BTC doesn't really make sense as it potentially forces you to have to adjust at least daily. What's next, pricing...
Tesla has a number of used cars with HW2 and FSD. They typically include FSD with all 2.0, 2.5 and 3.0 used inventory cars.
Whether or not he rejects the car is not going to change someone else's ability to get one for themselves or the time it takes to do so. In fact,...