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So how is there not a demand issue if they're selling P3Ds for under $50k before tax credits, again? It's absurd how fast the values of these...
Everyone here says that Tesla's have the best resale value. If that's the case, then why is an RVG program even needed or desirable?
If you believe in a single, one dimensional metric accurately measuring cognitive ability across the sum total of the human experience, then lol
It's pretty cool how both the dash and console basically self-destruct if you touch them.
I value the post you responded to far more than your own. Know why? Because it's based on first hand experience with how the car operates, versus...
Can you link me to a professional review that took the car onto a dirt road? Because that's where it rattles a fair amount, for me. No need for...
Don't try to bully me out of my opinion. I live on a dirt road and my 3 definitely rattled on it. It wasn't terrible but it was there.
I'll take that bet. I got a lot of free lunches due to Elon's FSD timeline promises already. Also agreed that the reliance on OpenStreetMap data...
If you live on perfect, fresh tarmac I agree that rattles are rarely an issue. However my 3 definitely rattled a fair amount on the dirt road I...
If you think EAP is nearly perfect, try it on I-70 through Colorado in the summer, let alone the winter.
Ok I disagree, would the computer be able to figure out whose turn it was when three cars arrive at the intersection simultaneously? I see no...
Yeah, see the thing is that none of those things are legally binding like a statement on the website or buying flow would be.
Well, every fact except the sales contract for the FSD upgrade.
Just a reminder that there's no obligation for Tesla to give you HW3. If it were definitely true it would be on the site, written out, in plain...
I just don't believe FSD is ever going to actually be anything close to what most folks envision 'full self driving' is. For example, there are...
A $700 increase that happens annually isn't *quite* the same as the insanely erratic and massive price changes that have randomly occurred with...
Owners or Fred Lambert or whoever didn't 'make' Tesla do anything. If you're mad about Tesla's direction, that blame lies solely with Elon and Tesla.
FSD is not and never will be a thing. Sure, maybe you'll be able to stop at stop lights. But you won't ever be making automatic turns or other...
I think he's bored with Tesla and more interested in his other projects now. Tbf the work Boring and SpaceX are doing is cool.
I'm sorry, I simply can't. I can tell by the way you type that you're three standard deviations below me in IQ.
Yep, you're right. Their autopark is better.
I am 161 IQ and everything Elon does makes sense to me. If you can't understand that's on you and your poorly shaped cranium.
I'm so smart that most of you can't even relate to the truth of what I'm saying.
Can you imagine how hilariously depreciated early M3P+ buyers would be if they hadn't gotten a refund? It would be mind boggling are this point.
NoA and autopark definitely have LOW reliability!
I have a 161 IQ and I think randomly closing and opening stores is a brilliant move.
If that's going to be your tack, it's an admission that FSD is never happening. NoA and autopark are wonky and not reliable.
No they literally cannot. That's now how higher end real estate leases work, which to this point is mostly where they've been.
Exactly, anyone expecting a single new feature from promising FSD is a fool, agreed. Since as you said, what's in the car today is all you should...
Good luck with more erratic price changes? I don't think good luck is needed.
This. I would have gotten basic AP if it were an option, NoA and the worthless autopark feature I wouldn't pay a dime for.
Yep, the ones making the erratic decisions. Good point.
This is a joke, right? My lived experience with Tesla makes me a spreader of fear? You're way down the fanboy hole if my observation that my Leaf...
I'd be fine with it too if I could get the useful.parts of EAP for $3k less. Oh and Stealthpeed, I'd say taking its pretty entitled to go around...
I was pissed at the price drops but just lol at not refunding FSD pre purchasers. There's no excuse for that.
Waymo is doing real FSD. Waymo trials its self-driving cars outside Phoenix, Arizona – video
I mean, I know my Leaf is quieter than a 3. It also cost about a third of what a 3 does after credits and rebates. It is revealing to me when...
It's the hyperdefensiveness that makes people laugh at fanboys here. Like, ok, you found some mercedes that rattle, that's cool. My Leaf is also...
How the **** can OWNERS be spreading FUD? Seriously, piss off telling people that bought a 3 and aren't 100 percent happy that they're not right.
Lol, anyone who has extensively used EAP knows it frequently touches lines and sometimes crosses them in turns. According to that "factual"...
I got my battery replaced for $29 and my iPhone is good as new.
I'm sure that won't hurt sales at all.
Yeah that's not been my experience. ProPilot is pretty damn good. Plus the CR rankings are nonsense and ding you for insufficient nags and "ease...
Yeah but your Honda cost way less and probably still hasn't dropped $4-8k in value. Fact is that AP isn't really much better than Honda Sensing or...
I sold mine. Ended up only losing 2k plus tax and the delivery fees, but I saw the writing on the wall that I'd be underwater on this car for...
The comment about Toyota is particularly stupid as I could own a Tacoma for 3 years, sell it, and lose less than my 3 did in a few weeks. Toyota...
The fact that Tesla considers NoA a feature worth moving to FSD is comical based on how bad it is. If that's the path to FSD, Level 3 autonomy...
As a 2011 Leafowner that bought new I just have to LOL at this attitude. I was gas free years before most Tesla owners.
If you believe Tesla is a for profit, capitalist company, you should understand that sudden and repeated price drops do not maximize profit unless...
Yeah, not really though. You have no idea what FSD will be capable of - whereas I'm very familiar with EAP and its limitations, like when it...