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  1. J

    model 3 3D MAXspider All weather floor mats (SF Bay Area) - $125 OBO

    practically brand new (used for 6 months before I sold my model 3). 3D MAXpider All-Weather Floor Mats for Tesla Model 3 New was over $200. Still have plastic on the 3D logo on the passenger side mat. Prefer local pickup in SF Bay area. $125 OBO.
  2. J

    Anyone else going to trade their Model 3 for Cybertruck?

    and more importantly you can get the RAM with real leather. Not sure why synthetic plastic seats off-gassing toxic fumes is en vogue these days. Marketing > common sense.
  3. J

    Check Out the Cybertruck Promo Photos

    I must be in the minority but I think all Teslas before this have either been absolutely hideous (the model 3 and X) or just too plain/boring/sedate (model S). I begrudgingly bought the cheapest model 3 just to get in before various PG&E solar incentive deadlines in July ended but this is the...
  4. J

    SR downgrade finally coming!

    So you've gone through your entire life paying exactly what was listed on the window sticker? LoL wow. someone needs a lesson in negotiating.
  5. J

    SR downgrade finally coming!

    Yes I have heated seats now and although I've never charged to max based on charging to 80% my max range is 240 miles.
  6. J

    SR downgrade finally coming!

    Here's my label. The #'s on the label don't match what I paid. I only paid $1000 for the blue color even though the label says $1500. I'd wager most people don't pay what is listed on the window sticker so the #'s not matching was not a concern of mine. The label clearly states this is the...
  7. J

    SR downgrade finally coming!

    So as an average consumer that has to deal with financing, signing documents online, asking everyone I came into contact with to make sure I got the right car and was confirmed by multiple Tesla employees that I received the car I ordered and then the car physically shows up at my house driven...
  8. J

    SR downgrade finally coming!

    Yes that's what I would like Tesla to do. Offer everyone a new 7 day no questions asked return period so we can as you say... Take it or leave it.
  9. J

    SR downgrade finally coming!

    Reading comprehension is not your strength? As I said I knew what I was supposed to get on paper. My real issue is that I was told by the sales guy there was no risk in placing an order as I would be given a 7 day no questions asked return policy. How exactly was I supposed to evaluate the car...
  10. J

    SR downgrade finally coming!

    I did check with not only the delivery guy but also with my sales guy. Who else am I supposed to check with? Elon? Should I just keep checking with every employee up the chain until I am absolutely sure what the heck is going on and why a different model was delivered to me than what I ordered...
  11. J

    SR downgrade finally coming!

    Perhaps Tesla may want to go easy on the downgrades as it would be cheaper than a class action lawsuit which would be $1000 x all the Teslas that didn't get a window sticker which from the few comments here seems like it's been a reoccurring issue, ps - I normally refer to people who use the...
  12. J

    SR downgrade finally coming!

    One of the primary reasons I decided to buy the car was that the sales guy assured me I would have 7 days no questions asked to return the car if I didn't like it. Having only driven the model 3 performance during the test drive I had no basis for what a SR/SR+ felt like. If I had known during...
  13. J

    SR downgrade finally coming!

    Seriously thought of that too.. anyone ever try this?
  14. J

    SR downgrade finally coming!

    If that's all that we lose I'll be happy as a clam saving $4500 clams. The email mentioned performance taking a hit "To continue experiencing the extended range, faster acceleration and Autopilot features of Model 3 Standard Range Plus, schedule a service appointment... " That would be the...
  15. J

    SR downgrade finally coming!

    Yes the monroney label introduced in 1958 was meant to protect consumers from bait and switch dealers. During the 7 day return period if the car was delivered as was intended I am sure some folks would have returned them and now with these features being removed months later and after the...
  16. J

    SR downgrade finally coming!

    Good thing the court systems care less what random social justice warriors using vague terms like "equitable" think. The monroney label not matching the car is one of several potentially serious issues here. But thanks for your banal input in this conversation.
  17. J

    SR downgrade finally coming!

    It's irrelevant what is "equitable". All I care about is what's legal. As a side note these window stickers are no laughing matter. There's a $1000 fine for not including the window sticker on a new car and I know for a fact my buddy who bought the same car never got his window sticker. And this...
  18. J

    SR downgrade finally coming!

    The monroney label (window sticker) that came with the car said my car was the Standard Range Plus. Is this even legal what they are doing-- regressing my car back to a version that differs from the window sticker?
  19. J

    SR downgrade finally coming!

    for someone that doesn't want AP-- do you think its possible to get the rest of the differences a la carte style for $1500 ? That would be better performance, heated seats and the range.
  20. J

    SR downgrade finally coming!

    wasn't the original difference in price $4500? if they only want $1500 to go back to SR+ that's not a bad deal.
  21. J

    Canceled my Model 3 Reservation

    The butt hurt is strong with this one. Model 3 runs on electricity? LoL thanks for that revelation Einstein. In your home country of Belgium: "Belgium is still among the most energy-dependent EU countries and ranked at eighth place in terms of energy dependency in 2012. Production by power...
  22. J

    Canceled my Model 3 Reservation

    I knew the Model 3 would be a boring appliance and I was OK with that if I got mine early enough to get the ~$10k Federal+California state credits. But when I found it would not have ANY gauges in front of the driver that was not something I am OK with. I see from your join date that you are...
  23. J

    Canceled my Model 3 Reservation

    Yes you are right. Nat Gas just passed coal. Does that make Tesla owners feel better their cars are Nat Gas/Coal/Nuclear powered? Major energy sources and percent shares of U.S. electricity generation at utility-scale facilities in 2016 Natural gas = 33.8% Coal = 30.4% Nuclear = 19.7%...
  24. J

    Canceled my Model 3 Reservation

    Oh yeah? what's the Nürburgring time for the Model S? Oh right there is no time because it can't complete the course without going into limp mode due to overheating. Model S is fun for puttering around town and amazing your Camry owning friends but leave the real performance driving to real...
  25. J

    Canceled my Model 3 Reservation

    The 2015 VW Golf Sportwagen has 271 lbs of torque after the fix (5% increase) and multiple users reporting 58 mpg. The MSRP for the base model is $25k minus the $5k incentive puts you at $20k. Plus they offer 72 months 0% financing which is worth a few thousand. Plus driving a diesel with a...
  26. J

    Canceled my Model 3 Reservation

    2016 GT4's still selling for over MSRP. No used Model S or Model 3 would ever sell for over MSRP as Teslas are mass produced appliances. 2016 Porsche Cayman GT4 Yes this is exactly who will be buying the Model 3. People who are not driving enthusiasts and are upgrading from a Camry. Yes...
  27. J

    Canceled my Model 3 Reservation

    Well it must be nice living in a country not even half the size of Texas. Here in the U.S. we travel much greater distances than you. My diesel is truly unlimited range and I don't have to plan my life around my car's battery.
  28. J

    Canceled my Model 3 Reservation

    Will you be getting a license plate "COALPWR" for your coal burning electric vehicle? The #1 source of electricity in the U.S. is coal. But please proceed to tell me how your SPECIFIC car will be powered by windmills built with locally sourced drift wood or by solar panels built without Chinese...
  29. J

    Canceled my Model 3 Reservation

    Sometimes it's good to have exposure to people with a different mindset. Being around copies of yourself (e.g. Tesla Fanboys) is not healthy.
  30. J

    Canceled my Model 3 Reservation

    Why not skip the imagination and just take an Uber or Lyft. It's pretty much the same driving experience.
  31. J

    Canceled my Model 3 Reservation

    Um yeah. I can go anywhere in the U.S. 24/7 and 365 days a year as there are diesel gas stations EVERYWHERE. No need to wait for my car to charge or be worried of running out of a charge and being SOL. I didn't think this was a discussion on Hondas. Thought this was a Model 3 forum-- you know-...
  32. J

    Canceled my Model 3 Reservation

    I had high hopes for it... but no gauges is ridiculous. Pass.
  33. J

    Model 3 is beautiful!

    I think for what you are paying for the Model S and especially the Model X are both butt ugly. This model 3 is not going to win any beauty contests but its definitely compelling value. Assuming we can get the Federal credit (plus the California one where I live) what other car can you get for...
  34. J

    How's your line?

    California - silicon valley.
  35. J

    How's your line?

    Just got a reservation for the coolest coal-powered appliance on wheels for under $35k. I was standing in line with a good 1.5 hours to go and my buddy called me up and let me speak to a rep in a store in another city and I was able to get a reservation over the phone.
  36. J

    Google Self Driving Car - Prototype on the road 2015

    self driving cars sounds like hell on earth to me. Plus it's part of Agenda 21. http://youtu.be/A58DB5Xhw5Y
  37. J

    Coal and Solar Power

    And those solar panels were hand made by the Amish using only recycled drift wood and love? I'm thinking they were made with Chinese slave labor in China who builds a new coal (not clean but the filthy kind) burning plant every 2 weeks. But hey don't let me get in the way of your fantasy that...
  38. J

    Coal and Solar Power

    And your Tesla gets it's power from unicorns and Keebler Elves? Most likely you get your power from coal burning plants. Nothing wrong with clean coal but let's not be holier than thou. Diesels rock as do Teslas.
  39. J

    Big increase in PG&E E-9 rates (N. Cal.)

    You can thank all the global warming hysteria and the carbon taxes. This is all by design. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvM3EAUN0Vk
  40. J

    NPR: Why Buying A Car Is So Awful

    That's ironic it is coming from the National Petroleum Radio that is funded by the big oil companies and also the big foundations (the Ultra-Wealthy families). But I digress....
  41. J

    Can a small person fit in the rear child seats?

    Obviously gender and ethnicity is not a requirement. I'm just adding interest to the conversation. Putting my politically correct facade on let me rephrase the question "What is the maximum sized bipodded animal that can physically fit into the seats comfortably?"
  42. J

    Can a small person fit in the rear child seats?

    I am thinking of adding this option. I don't have any kids yet but I plan on starting a family in the future and also plan to keep the car a long time. In the meantime, can small asian women fit in the seats? I hate to buy them only to have them unused for many years. I have a lot of asian...
  43. J

    solution to mounting iPads in back of Model S?

    Actually I was hoping to mount an ipad in the front of the car. If I forego the tech package, I was thinking with that $3750 I save I could just buy an ipad and use the turn by turn directions on that. Might look funny having an ipad right in front of that 17"
  44. J

    40 to P85 - The Journey from sensible to HOLY ****

    So a few months ago my journey into the world of Tesla began. I started off thinking I would just get a 40 as I have never paid more than $21k for a new car. From a financial point of view buying a brand new car off the dealer's lot was about the worst investment you can make. But electric...
  45. J

    Paint: Multi-coat Red

    I think we all agree that Sunset red = multi-red = red. My question however is- has this red changed color? The sales lady said that the red used to have more orange in it and now it's a much darker red. The sample on the wall looked very dark. Are the pictures I have seen in this thread the new...

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