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  1. strider

    Wiki Model X Refresh Issues Thread

    More Tesla nickel-and-diming 6-figure cars. They are $45, out of stock on Tesla website, but I was able to buy one from my delivery center when I picked up the car.
  2. strider

    Wiki Model X Refresh Issues Thread

    Sorry to hear about this. You probably should have rejected the car. At this point it's yours. So be as pleasant as you can when dealing with your SC (in my experience they do want to help) and try to get it all sorted. May want to look up any lemon law protections in your state and keep...
  3. strider

    Thoughts on Yoke from Plaid owner

    Your statement is true and perfectly highlights why (IMO) the yoke is a joke. The yoke only reinforces 9 and 3 when driving in a straight line or in a very shallow turn. But because Tesla didn't change the steering ratio or use steer by wire like Lexus is doing, if the yoke is turned to 90...
  4. strider

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Not a problem at all. Have been charging Teslas inside for 12 years. As long as your electrical circuits are installed correctly and to code (proper gauge of wire, proper breaker size, etc) it is no more dangerous than having 10's of gallons of gasoline in your garage. I am sorry to hear...
  5. strider

    Thoughts on Yoke from Plaid owner

    I think 15 seconds is extreme but I also found it difficult to get into a comfortable position with the yoke. I could feel tension in my shoulders over time. With the wheel it has not been an issue. Perhaps I could have spent more time adjusting the yoke and my seat to find a comfortable...
  6. strider

    Thoughts on Yoke from Plaid owner

    At what wheels have you looked? I absolutely despise the yoke but now that I installed a Hansshow wheel, I love the car. Yes, I still want stalks for turn signals but I'm dealing with it. If the Model S is the right car for you (size and performance) don't let Elon's childish Knight...
  7. strider

    Has you driven with falcon wing doors open and had an accident?

    Certainly conservative advice. One difference for me is that the new models are always in Hold mode so even if you let off of the brake they won't move. Yes, I suppose you could stab the accelerator accidentally. But I already feel self-conscious opening the FWDs in the pick-up line, I'd...
  8. strider

    The market is so broken

    With a couple of years to go, I do not think that it would be a good idea. There will be a ton of other EV models available by then and interest rates will be going down. Once the recession bites and unemployment starts going up, the Fed will start cutting interest rates. I would not lock in...
  9. strider

    The market is so broken

    I agree that new orders will continue to be slow, although I do expect people will start cancelling and instead keep their existing vehicles for longer. I also expect the recession will cause people to sell their cars or default on their loans which will increase used inventory and bring prices...
  10. strider

    WTB Nema 14-50 adapter

    Yep, keep checking with your local showroom. I bought one in KC when I picked up my car last month.
  11. strider

    The market is so broken

    The US is hurtling towards a recession. It will be here by early 2023 at the latest. There will be a lot of inventory available. I would not pay top dollar now unless you really need a car.
  12. strider

    Motor drive fail, Battery failx2

    This. The problem isn't the tech. It's the complete lack of customer service and communication. I'm on the fence as to whether it is out of malice or simply incompetence.
  13. strider

    Phantom braking explanation?

    The car also shows me a lot of false returns from the parking sensors when driving fast - even when there isn't a barricade or anything beside me. Just driving down the road it will flash the little grey curved lines from time to time. Those ultrasonic sensors are not good at high speed - it...
  14. strider

    Has you driven with falcon wing doors open and had an accident?

    I am fine with making this a selection in the profile, but I do not want it enforced. To me it matters when doing pick-ups and drop-offs at school. I want to be able to drive up, open/close the doors and drive off. Having to go into Park adds an extra step and extra time.
  15. strider

    Cybertruck - capacitive switches on yoke

    According to this review: https://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews/a39927799/2022-ford-f-150-lightning-off-roading-review/ The Lightning has a standard rear locker. You are giving a lot of credit to a company for which suspension is not its strong suit. Anyway, literally everything about the CT...
  16. strider

    Cybertruck - capacitive switches on yoke

    You think Tesla will make a better 4WD system than Ford? That might be the funniest thing I have heard in weeks. The F150 has locking diffs and a tried and true 4WD system. Teslas all have open diffs and use the brakes to counteract wheelspin. Yes, the quad-motor version should solve this...
  17. strider

    Refreshed 2021/2022 Model X Owners Thread

    Yes. Tesla really wants everyone to update so they make it as annoying as possible. There is no "remind me tomorrow" or next week, or whatever. I have been burned by Tesla software updates before so I typically wait until a few reports here on TMC that it's ok before I push the button. It is...
  18. strider

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    As @Operator64 said, it'll be ok but I wouldn't make a habit of it. Cord protector won't work if you want to charge the M3 with the same plug. Any chance you can rig a hook or something to bring it over the M3 and then down to the MX?
  19. strider

    Cruise Control and Autopilot Suddenly Decelerates

    This is called Phantom Braking. It is a thing and is not getting better. Now that Tesla has eliminated radar, even cruise control uses the same programming as Autopilot and has issues with Phantom Braking. I wish there was an option to enable dumb old cruise control like our Roadster and 1st...
  20. strider

    Any other owners second guess if their next car should be another Tesla?

    Can you provide a source for this? Why on Earth would your service size have anything to do with V2H? By definition, if the vehicle is providing power, your house must be isolated from the grid so your service drop is not in the picture. This does not make any sense. Maybe they are using...
  21. strider

    Refreshed 2021/2022 Model X Owners Thread

    To be clear, if I press only the horn button I only get the horn. Are you saying that if you palm the right side of the yoke (as instructed by Elon in the above-linked tweet) you only get the horn and not the rest of the buttons? That is what Elon said. But after living through 12 years of...
  22. strider

    Cybertruck - capacitive switches on yoke

    They make that exact product. It's called an F-150 Lightning. The CT will not have the things you list. You are a traditional truck buyer and want to do traditional truck things. The CT is a Cowboy Cadillac. It can do some truck things but it is mostly for windshield cowboys. Think Chevy...
  23. strider

    Blog Musk Says Cybertruck Doors Will Open Automatically

    I bought a Mean Green ZTR ~5 years ago. It has the small/default battery and can mow my 2.5 acres in one charge. The newer ones have much larger batteries. They have since been purchased by DR Power/Generac, have abandoned the residential market, and only sell commercial now. You can charge...
  24. strider

    Refreshed 2021/2022 Model X Owners Thread

    More of Elon's lies. And yes, I use the word lie purposefully. If you mash the right side of the yoke, you will get the horn. But you will also activate the wipers, AP, and voice command. There is no feature that causes only the horn to activate on a mash of the right side of the yoke. You...
  25. strider

    Model X Plaid Mud Flaps

    I went ahead and ordered the ZL1 Addon version. I had to trim a bit off the fronts (the skinny part that goes towards the center of the car) but they are holding fine and look good.
  26. strider

    FSD Really This Bad?

    Yep, we will see. End of second quarter of next year.... so 1 year from now? You are some kind of optimist. But even if that happens, keep in mind that one can always pay for FSD monthly. It will take 5 years to break even doing it that way so you are banking that you will keep your car for...
  27. strider

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    You must have a really tight MS or that misaligned trim in your MX is causing wind noise. My wife says that my MX Plaid is much quieter than her 2018 MS. I think the new windows made the difference. I am not using the noise cancelling feature - felt some pressure waves from it and switched it...
  28. strider

    FSD Really This Bad?

    To answer the OPs question, Yes, FSD is really that bad. Now if you're a nerd like @Tronguy (and I use nerd here on purpose and positively) and want to be an active part of developing the tech and it is interesting to you, then go for it. And your wife is right, it is cheaper than a lot of...
  29. strider

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    The only downside to doing this is that you will be under immense pressure to accept the car immediately without inspecting it. When they arrive, the Delivery rep will likely have already called an Uber to pick them up and take them back to their office. But they cannot technically leave until...
  30. strider

    Many recycled VINS from buyers not being ready...

    I'm sure people that were stretching to buy a car may now be priced out due to interest rates going up. The same will happen with housing. Most people buy based on the monthly payment. As rates go up, the price that people can afford to pay goes down. It's possible that this burst of...
  31. strider

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    iX is a 5 seat. The only soon-ish 3 row SUVs that I am aware of are the MB EQS SUV and Rivian R1S.
  32. strider

    Bypassing the TPMS

    Hi @jammi Sorry, no movement and I have since sold my Roadster for a Model X Plaid. We did the Continental upgrade on my wife's Previous P85 and it worked fine. It's mostly pulling up the carpet along the driver's side. I don't recall them tearing into the dash.
  33. strider

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Possible in theory but I put the odds at zero. Tesla doesn't do retrofits. They won't even let you upgrade a car with an 85kWh pack to a 100kWh pack and that is simply billing and a software tick on the car. That is a simple option to bring in more profit from people upgrading their cars but...
  34. strider

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    As a pilot myself, this comparison is absolutely, completely, wrong. The yoke on an airplane does not go past 90 degrees in either direction. And the only time you go full deflection (outside of aerobatics or an emergency) is on the ground when you are making sure the controls are "free and...
  35. strider

    Off-peak departure time charging without climate setting?

    It means both. But IMO if scheduled charging is doing the right thing and finishing charging on time, the battery is already preconditioned as a result of charging. You should think of precondition as being for climate control.
  36. strider

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    People are free to like what they like, but I have to chime in here. The only view that is obstructed by a steering wheel is of the dash. If a steering wheel is obscuring the windshield you either have the seat too low, the wheel too high, or both. Seriously people, it's like we've suddenly...
  37. strider

    TACC not resuming speed after using accelerator

    Hmm. What code are you on? I get the same message but it seems to go off when I am 2mph under the set point. Maybe trying easing off more slowly? It's just stupid that we are having this conversation. Seriously Tesla? Cars have had cruise control for like 40 years!
  38. strider

    An honest review of the yoke

    Stripe is optional. It is actually 1" narrower than the yoke so screen visibility is improved, though it still obscure the left side of the screen a bit. Steering wheel heat works. It seems slow to heat up but I never tried with with the yoke - it being summer and all. Yes, I didn't take the...
  39. strider

    TACC not resuming speed after using accelerator

    Here is what works for me... When I am done with the passing or whatever maneuver, I will slowly ease my foot off to let the car slow down. If the speed drops more than 2mph below my set speed I will ease my foot back into it to hold it there or 1 mph below. About every 5 seconds I will ease...
  40. strider

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    If your bank is part of the "Plaid" network (no relation to Tesla model) then you can pay instantly when you pick up. To test if your bank is part of this, go into the app and start the process to pay. It will ask you for your bank name and then your online banking login info. If it is...
  41. strider

    Cybertruck gigapress (9000T Idra Press) being assembled! in Italy.

    There is the broader question related to repairability of the structural pack vehicles as well. What's good for the factory is not always what's best for the end user/repair shop. They aren't. I maintain there will be a handful of trucks delivered in 2023 (just to say they started deliveries...
  42. strider

    Just took delivery of TESLA X

    For the FWD, is this inside or outside? As @Bigriver said, the system is very conservative if it is inside. It will stop a couple of feet before the ceiling. You can override by reaching in and holding the Open button. It will move very slowly and just let go when you want it to stop. I...
  43. strider

    Wiki Model X Refresh Issues Thread

    Hi there. We did not have a pre-Refresh X but my wife says that our Refresh MX is much quieter than her 2018 MS. I think it's the new glass mostly. I get some weird pulsing with the Noise Cancelling so I have turned it off. The quality seems to be getting much better. My car was an EOQ1...
  44. strider

    Refreshed 2021/2022 Model X Owners Thread

    If you can swing the cash, go see what Carmax or others will give you for it? Could be a quick way to make $10k.
  45. strider

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Depends on the options you choose and whether you want to keep your yoke. Wheel starts at $941 for a full leather wheel. If you want carbon fiber, alcantara, nappa leather, heated, etc the price will go up. There is a $450 core charge for your old yoke. I elected to keep my yoke for future...
  46. strider

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Thanks for the update. We had a 7-hour round trip yesterday to drop the kids at summer camp. MX is much quieter than my wife's 2018 MS. She had a hard time keeping her speed down as she was used to the road/wind noise from her MS. I think the new windows are a huge improvement. I ditched...
  47. strider

    The catastrophe of FSD and erosion of trust in Tesla

    This is where I am. I have disabled AP totally as I find it much more stressful/tiring to be on a constant hair-trigger to take over. The human brain is not wired to maintain this kind of constant alert level. I love using cruise control and still have to deal with a lot of phantom braking...
  48. strider

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Yes. Many aspects of Tesla will get better without Elon. This thread, for example, would be radically shorter if Elon was not here. The board would bring in people with car company experience and for whom things like production planning, supplier management, etc is their bread and butter...
  49. strider

    Mobile Charger no longer included

    Check with your local store. My MX came with a UMC as it was a 2021 order but of course no 14-50. 14-50 adapter was sold out on tesla.com but my store had one for purchase when I picked up my car.
  50. strider

    Honest review of BMW IX M50

    Would be interested to hear if the M60 solves the underpowered problem.

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