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  1. S

    A Love Story: Model 3 is so good, monster truck drivers want to finger it

    The thread is cute, witty, humorous, and the trucker engaged in some reprehensible behavior. But, the OP is the instigator and in the wrong. The first clue is that we see six vehicles pass on the right before the truck appears, digit extended. That is clear evidence that the OP should not be in...
  2. S

    No car can be perfect

    A very kind and generous offer, and thank you for that. Geography is working against this opportunity as neither of our residences are anywhere near you, and we're in the midwest for the Summer. Therefore, I must respectfully and regretfully decline an offer I would otherwise most certainly find...
  3. S

    No car can be perfect

    LOL....I'm getting by meanwhile with another 3 Series....at least it has a "3" in it meanwhile! :D (6 months old...no issues to report;))
  4. S

    No car can be perfect

    Likely not. Once I saw the vehicle on display at the Las Vegas showroom, I knew the program was not ready for volume production. As discussed in an earlier thread, the build flaws on that display vehicle were apparent. Had I gone ahead anyway, the chances are just as good I'd have been one of...
  5. S

    No car can be perfect

    Surely, you cannot be serious. As one who very much wanted to have a M3, with a 1.5 year old deposit, but then became more and more disenchanted as more issues were discovered, I don't recall reading anyone here who expected perfection. But, the list of design and manufacturing problems...
  6. S

    My delivery experience and very few initial minor flaws

    I don't know, but I would confirm with a reliable hand-held digital gauge.
  7. S

    My delivery experience and very few initial minor flaws

    Balance is a wheel/tire assembly issue and results in vibration when lacking, either through the steering column/wheel (front) or seat cushion (rear). The symptoms you describe could possibly be as simple as 1) driving on a road with a severe crowning to the pavement, 2) uneven tire inflation...
  8. S

    Decided to cancel

    Elon's response, if that is what he said, is nonsensical. The new FMVSS requirement was promulgated quite a while ago before taking effect. Everyone in this industry (where I also work) has known and understood the measures needed to be taken. The analysis demonstrated the different (and less...
  9. S

    Finally sat in a Model 3.

    Hang on for Polestar Model 2
  10. S

    You gave up your Model 3 for?

    After I got my deposit back, I gave up on the Model 3 for a 2018 BMW 330i GT. $0 down/$492/month for 36 months.The overall size and interior room were critical, and I traded-off waiting one more cycle for my first BEV, as there was nothing comparable available now. However, with the Polestar...
  11. S

    Decided to cancel

    I think that is a very valid reason to cancel, and did so a while back (leasing one more/last? ICE vehicle), even before the current full list of quality bugs and craftsmanship issues arose, but the first hints were starting to appear. From door latch switches that unexpectedly lower rear...
  12. S

    Braking distance concern by Consumer Reports

    I realize it's an artifact of the forum software, but all the quotes attributed to me are actually from the Autoweek article. I was just sharing content I had received in my daily newsletter from Autoweek of interest to this forum.
  13. S

    Tesla News

    Missed that...sorry...mods please delete.
  14. S

    Tesla News

    Tesla's chief of engineering is 'taking some time off'
  15. S

    Does basically every owner here use HomeLink?

    I'm still pondering the difference between "every garage door" and "basically every garage door"....same mystery with owners, per the title. :rolleyes:
  16. S

    Door needs to be slammed to shut?

    To repeat an earlier post, try closing them in a different sequence so another door is open when you try the driver door and then assess.
  17. S

    Model 3 Cockpit vs Mercedes E400

    I was completely ready to move into the 21st century and buy an M3 (different thread), but as for music, I've scoured the decades and can't find anything which beats what was written in the first half of the last century (yes, before I was born) for energy, complexity, arrangements, beauty, just...
  18. S

    Owning Model 3 with 2 kids?

    Another good point and reason I am waiting for more product development. Without manual release handles in the rear, there is no way to open the rear doors from inside in a post-impact loss of power. Kids in child seats couldn't reach the handles in any event, but once they are able, the lack of...
  19. S

    So sick of the negativity

    We just wonder why a glass twice as large as needed was used...
  20. S

    Owning Model 3 with 2 kids?

    She is absolutely correct. The same principle of distribution of force would even have adults faring better facing rearward in frontal impact (most common). Obvious dimensional/design problems, and sometimes motion sickness in testing, have precluded this in most forms of transportation. With...
  21. S

    So sick of the negativity

    Part of the fundamental definition of quality is having a robust process with repeatable outcomes. It is clear that there has been significant variation in the plant's output so far, even from this biased sample of forum members. Your vehicle, if flawless, should be the result of a standardized...
  22. S

    Owning Model 3 with 2 kids?

    The issue with the rear seat is not the couple, it's the low seat cushion height, (low hip to heel distance), creating the sensation for an adult of knees under the chin. For the child seat particular purpose, I would also be optimistic. As for duration, one man's "temporary" is another's "seems...
  23. S

    Run winter tires without TPMS?

    I'd consider this...if ever there was a time when you would want advance notice of a leak and avoid a roadside tire change, would it be in the winter, or the other three seasons?
  24. S

    A-Pillar Misalignment - Serious Issue?

    I understand your philosophical position on technology. But, as Dr. Deming would point out, it is less costly/consumes fewer resources to prevent defects than to have to correct them. The issue here is the same one Tesla has struggled with...lack of experience/skill in the bodyshop but believing...
  25. S

    A-Pillar Misalignment - Serious Issue?

    Let's put aside for the moment the shoddy rubber strip around the glass and how poorly it is finished. The problem you astutely raise doesn't look, to me, like it's a A-Pillar issue. It appears to be a poorly hung front right fender in each case. Note the rubber strip as it runs along the fender...
  26. S

    Two totally ignorant questions...

    STRONGLY suggest you do not leave your kids in any car. Understandably, I cannot discuss name details, but take it on faith...there was a issue with a global vehicle manufacturer involving the brake-shift interlock where two toddlers left in a car with a key when the mom ran back inside for her...
  27. S

    Canceling my reservation

    2019 Honda Insight: good-looking 50-mpg competitor for Prius hybrid
  28. S

    Door needs to be slammed to shut?

    Any chance you're trying to close the driver's door last? If so, try two things...with the driver's/rear doors closed, try closing the passenger door last. Also, try to close the door with the window open just a bit. If the passenger door now requires more force or if opening the windows helps...
  29. S

    Canceling my reservation

    Thank you for recognizing that...some feel it's the only solution. As long as I am capable/competent to drive, I hope to never have autopilot/autonomous vehicle. One day, I'll be old enough not to be able to enjoy the daily drive anymore, and will appreciate the technology to get me where I want...
  30. S

    Canceling my reservation

    Facts, in no particular order, which pushed me over the line to cancel at the end of 2017, after holding a reservation for over a year-1/2: 1) Car was not available by the end of 2017 when I needed a new car. 2) Tesla was having trouble welding steel and assembling bodies with high quality and...
  31. S

    Not getting paint protection film for your Model 3?

    Just trying to follow the logic....a stone chip on day 1 on the way home from the dealer...not much wear/tear otherwise by then. Chips can happen anytime, so not sure of the connection to the age of the vehicle?
  32. S

    Not getting paint protection film for your Model 3?

    CQuartz, Opticoat, etc. have no effect on the underlying paint's adhesion to the sheetmetal. They are surface coatings with different degrees of bonding to the exposed paint for environmental protection (dirt/birds, etc.) and shine. They have no effect and no resistance regarding stone chips...
  33. S

    Green Car Reports: Model 3 quality is terrible

    The workmanship I personally reviewed on the showroom display model was beyond being a "foible". In my view, it was unacceptable. In the last six months, we've obtained three other cars from a long-established German company which had outstanding assembly with excellent bodies. Combining my...
  34. S

    Green Car Reports: Model 3 quality is terrible

    I'm back with two very clean and shiny cars now in the garage...and wow, did this provoke some more interesting answers meanwhile! First of all, no offense taken in any way (and I don't think by anyone) as your earlier post was just honest and witty, so please no need to apologize! These interim...
  35. S

    Green Car Reports: Model 3 quality is terrible

    I'm picking up some signals of humor/sarcasm, but have a question for you based on your priorities. Let's take this out of automotive. If you spend a couple of grand on a really good suit, which, of course, does the basics, covers the body parts, keeps you dressed, provides the generally formal...
  36. S

    Green Car Reports: Model 3 quality is terrible

    Agree again...not only are they new, but the M3 has the highest degree of steel of their products so far, and the welding technology for that seems to have also been their struggle in framing the bodies-in-white. They are doing lots well, although vehicle development and pre-launch testing is...
  37. S

    Green Car Reports: Model 3 quality is terrible

    There are other metrics used in the industry, such as TGW and TGR (the actual name used for the metric).....and there is good evidence that for some portion of the population, enough Things Gone Right (such as the EV powertrain and autonomous features, if you value those) can overcome the...
  38. S

    Losing enthusiasm for Model 3

    ...and I know of no other 4 door vehicles which do not provide for operating the rear interior door latch releases for passenger escape in a post-crash loss of electrical power.
  39. S

    Green Car Reports: Model 3 quality is terrible

    Possibly, but when dealing with humans, all is subjective...one person's BSR is another's "I didn't hear anything." This is about the best source available and is used by the OEMs. When I worked at one, we had major JDP presentations for various studies each year.
  40. S

    Green Car Reports: Model 3 quality is terrible

    Via a large sample survey, they specifically inquire if any issues have arisen as follows (from their site) "The study examines 233 problems, which are organized into eight categories: Exterior Seats Driving Experience Engine/Transmission Features/Controls/Displays (FCD) Interior Heating...
  41. S

    Green Car Reports: Model 3 quality is terrible

    The Industry Average (per JDPower 2017 Initial Quality Study at 3 months in service - essentially a measure of design and assembly) is 93 problems per 100 cars (US domestic) and 99 problems per 100 car (all imported brands). The best in industry was Kia with 72 problems per 100 cars (the most...
  42. S

    Green Car Reports: Model 3 quality is terrible

    The concern with the checklist is the required remedial action for some issues. For the vehicle on display at Las Vegas with a poorly hung door and mis-aligned hood, it is likely that hinge adjustment would be required (assuming the hood stamping is to spec...not sure about that from looking at...
  43. S

    Green Car Reports: Model 3 quality is terrible

    I noted in the thread on the Las Vegas showroom that the body build quality was poor for the display vehicle. Interior assembly had no noticeable issues.
  44. S

    Las Vegas Showroom Model 3 Appearance?

    To help "ring a bell", I believe it used to be the Bassett furniture store, and is somewhat diagonally across from the BMW dealer. They were allowing folks 3 minutes, per a stopwatch, to sit inside, taking turns due to the crowd. A post in this same-topic thread has a link to it.... New Las...
  45. S

    Las Vegas Showroom Model 3 Appearance?

    Yes, and I sat in it as well on Friday, as noted in the other recent thread on this subject.
  46. S

    New Las Vegas showroom

    Just back from the Las Vegas showroom. At the risk of being flamed, I must admit I am satisfied with my decision to cancel. The great vehicle dynamics of the car have been established in multiple reviews, but I found concerns which also are important to me when spending this amount. Keep in...
  47. S

    New Las Vegas showroom

    I'm going to go look and see what I missed by cancelling. It probably won't change much by the time I'm back in the market again.
  48. S

    Is the $1,000 deposit Refundable?

    Yes, my $1000 was refunded via a check from Tesla when I cancelled.
  49. S

    Any thoughts of the price of the model 3 going up if the steel/aluminum tariff goes thru?

    He's just looking after his own self-interests again. Notice...no tariff on Stormy Daniels.
  50. S

    Cancelling my reservation

    Probably a minority voice here, but I've had ACC, quickly learned to dislike it, and would never have it again if possible. As executed in the 2016 Audi A6, despite the ability to set following distances to preference, it has the following two problems: If you set a reasonable distance, others...

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