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    Elon Musk

    Window dressing.
  2. 30seconds

    Elon Musk

    It’s too bad that Elon has put himself in the middle of the attempt to overturn a presidential election. We see more and more that Trump was pursuing a clear fraudulent scheme to overturn the election and Elon’s response is that he would have allowed Trump to stay on twitter to overthrow the...
  3. 30seconds

    Elon & Twitter

    So the Twitter BOD approved the $54.20 per share / $44B buyout offer from Musk. This doesn't seem like it will resolve quickly since its clear Musk no longer wants to pay that much
  4. 30seconds

    Elon Musk

    B.S. Twitter is not and has never been “the sole arbiter of what people could and could not say on social media.” Social media is a huge construct of which Twitter is only one corner of. Elon is doing great things for EV and sustainable energy while also supporting a party that denies the...
  5. 30seconds

    Elon Musk

    remember memes on twitter = good memes on tiktok = evil he's lost it
  6. 30seconds

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Looks like Shanghi is back up at / near full output & Fremont is cranking. Has anyone seen current ramp estimates for Texas or Berlin?
  7. 30seconds

    Elon & Twitter

    I guess we will see how Elon defines “free speech”
  8. 30seconds

    Snippiness 2.0

    Exactly. The motto of rich a$$hole$ everywhere. Free speech for me, not for thee
  9. 30seconds

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Also I'm not sure why everyone believes that the F-150 lighting is well engineered. The Mustang thermal issues were there from the start and this looks to be a second major powertrain issue.
  10. 30seconds

    Ford recalls over 50,000 Mach-e's

    Oh, that's going to be a problem.
  11. 30seconds

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    no. Tesla was also investing in expanding the product lines and building new GFs. Conflating single car profitability with the entire company P&L isn't particularly helpful
  12. 30seconds

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    VW/ Audi has been highly disingenuous about their EV production goals for about 10 years now.
  13. 30seconds

    Car & Driver: The Mach E is simply better than the Model Y

    So what are they limiting by software - Fast DC charging or fast driving? This is either a design error or a poorly made part since it is subject to being weld closed or significant deformation. The software correction is a poor work around. "On affected vehicles, Direct Current (“DC”) fast...
  14. 30seconds

    Ford no longer allows purchase at end of lease for EVs

    I bet this changes within 12-18 months as the lease residuals drop
  15. 30seconds

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I literally do this 3-4 days a week. Have a podcast playing in my Airpods, which automatically switches to my Tesla when I get in and then back to my AirPods when I get out. Same if I’m on a phone call or using the zoom app for a meeting
  16. 30seconds

    Elon & Twitter

    Exactly this. The board also needs to report to their shareholders and may be liable- even if the merger is approved. Plus now the board has to think about all the damages that may be the result of Elon’s comments. There are really better ways to have negotiated a lower price
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    Elon & Twitter

    Plus the more Elon trashes Twitter the harder it will be for the other investors to stay involved.
  18. 30seconds

    Elon & Twitter

    What a S$!^show Texas Attorney General Opens Investigation of Twitter Bots https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-06/texas-attorney-general-opens-investigation-of-twitter-bots
  19. 30seconds

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    We have summer power cuts in Fremont?
  20. 30seconds

    Elon Musk

    Wow. Cold blooded killer
  21. 30seconds

    Politics - Quarantine Thread

    Bernie and Warren have been attacking him. I'm not sure I've seen where AOC has been relentlessly attacking him
  22. 30seconds

    Elon & Twitter

    Well at least this should be separated from Tesla stock price now https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/twitter-shareholders-sue-musk-deflated-stock-price-85005386
  23. 30seconds

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It’s almost like an overhang on the stock has been removed
  24. 30seconds

    Elon & Twitter

    It’s a takeover, Twitter will be a subsidiary of X.com. No need for an independent board as they are typically let go already as part of the merger
  25. 30seconds

    Elon & Twitter

    Where does the extra $6.25B come from?
  26. 30seconds

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    So all Elon has to do is get the purchase price reduced and scrounge up an addition $6B+ to make this happen. One way of reading this is that the share loan wasn’t going to work out and the banks and Elon walked away nicely from each other.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The details on the additional funding The full agreements typically have clauses that allow the other investors to back out if the agreed upon deal changes. Even if it is “for the better.”
  28. 30seconds

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    My read is that Elon did the Elon thing and didn't really have the funding secured (and still doesn't) with respect to outside capital. So the question is how much more Tesla stock will he need to sell to make the transaction happen even at at price around $45 (guess). That's a fairly big...
  29. 30seconds

    Elon Musk

    So workplace harassment isn’t real? We should ignore it? The companies I work with would never settle / fire someone over a single incident unless it was witnessed by others and pretty bad. There is risk of wrongful termination on the other side.
  30. 30seconds

    Elon & Twitter

    Yes. I saw a poster on Reddit claim that, in fact, Bezos has quite a flat ass.
  31. 30seconds

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I would say buying the politicians in those states and those that opposed EV rebates would be more effective. Probably much higher ROI than buying Twitter
  32. 30seconds

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I don't get what this legal department would be used for. Going after whom? Bots / individuals on twitter? News organizations that review Tesla's products?
  33. 30seconds

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    At least he is saying that the allegations are untrue. To me it seems that there was some sort of settlement but it may have been for all sorts of reasons I think we are close to the full pedo moment. We are going to see if he makes is worse or finds a way to let it settle. Given all the...
  34. 30seconds

    Elon & Twitter

    Thanks for sharing, but I'm reminded of the saying - What good is data when you already have a narrative?
  35. 30seconds

    Elon & Twitter

    So Elon is voting for the anti-democracy, climate change denial, pro-Putin, anti gun control, defects be dammed, anti electric vehicle party and we are supposed to think that this won't influence Tesla brand perception?
  36. 30seconds

    Elon & Twitter

    Given PVs very spotty history with the truth I guess we won’t hear anything until the full videos are released
  37. 30seconds

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    At this point there will be lots of lawsuits, for a long amount of time, no matter what the outcome. Walking away from a deal in Delaware courts is not trivial.
  38. 30seconds

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I wonder how long the Twitter debacle overhang will last on Tesla stock. At least the Shanghi issue will be conflated with all this nonsense. I’m finding it hard to believe in the short term unless Q2 production numbers are reasonable or Berlin and Texas really ramp up.
  39. 30seconds

    Elon & Twitter

    Sure looks like this will be a hot mess for some time. I’m willing to bet that the co-investors wrote better escape clauses than Elon did. Pretty sure that the list of people willing to put in large amounts of $$ to buy twitter at a 45% premium plus a massive legal and reputational sh/$show...
  40. 30seconds

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yes, let’s discuss the expansion of Tesla production in Texas, in Berlin, the re-start of Shanghi and hopefully the over-performance of Fremont! It is a pretty incredible time for Tesla as it is clear that legacy auto is far behind on hardware, software, production and desire to lead the...
  41. 30seconds

    Elon & Twitter

    I mean it’s clear that no one in the Bay Area or LA really “works.” They just go to protests and develop liberal domination plots to restrict your freedoms. It’s really lucky California had Elon to save it from pure economic disaster. Really what is the economy there without him? My cousin...
  42. 30seconds

    Elon & Twitter

    Right… random dude with agenda is not exactly who I am going to believe about something so absurd
  43. 30seconds

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Indonesia straddles the equator and is mainly water based. Plus "local" access to reasonably sophisticated manufacturing and raw materials base (including China, Japan and Australia). If you aren't that into democracy then pretty good place to build and launch spaceships from...
  44. 30seconds

    Elon & Twitter

    I think Elon should buy Vogue, clear liberal bias since they aren’t putting Melanie aren’t on the cover. Would totally blow the minds of the libs.
  45. 30seconds

    Elon Musk

    the loan isn’t funded so there isn’t a call. It would be a standard that the loan and all capital is funded along with the deal close. Maybe there would be an escrow account, but given that there would be months of regulatory review before any deal close it seems early for that as well...
  46. 30seconds

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    They are desperate to have Elon take over twitter
  47. 30seconds

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    You still need to file. Its just that it can be done very shortly after the public announcement. The problem is that the SEC will be setting a precedent that any acquirer of any public company can now file way past the stated window. I expect Elon is facing another fine here but he is...
  48. 30seconds

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I don’t think the large investment funds really like the idea of Elon taking on Twitter as either a CEO or owner. If he comes back with some sort of revised offer then I think Tesla stock is hit again. Will be an overhang until he comes back or says the takeover is over. The bot thing may...
  49. 30seconds

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    There might be some funky short pressure going on with Tesla trigger now given Elon’s collateral pledge for Twitter. Since the overall market is declining large funds are probably adding to their market short positions. This might include some additional bets on Tesla given the higher...

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