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  1. S

    why no beep for backup sensor in Model 3? [rear cross traffic warning]

    The cars sensor suite absolutely has blind spots. Low & forward off-center it seems to have issues identifying lane cross events by adjacent lane car which are partially overlapping with your vehicle, to the front. I have had multiple events where the car in NoA/AP did absolutely nothing...
  2. S

    why no beep for backup sensor in Model 3? [rear cross traffic warning]

    Exactly The amount of blind spots given the current sensor/camera suite and people arguing “the car can’t alert you / have these features“ as a result and “its fine cuz you should know how to drive with your mirrors!!” .. well OK, but how is this car supposed to FSD then?
  3. S

    The catastrophe of FSD and erosion of trust in Tesla

    Right I think that is indicative of the issue I am talking about. If there is a low front blind spot, then the car literally cannot see a car which is adjacent-to slightly-forward in next lane tires crossing the lane line. It will brake & slow pretty conservatively for a car 1-5 car lengths...
  4. S

    The catastrophe of FSD and erosion of trust in Tesla

    Maybe its 2nd amendment people responding to something said by a 1st amendment person, hard to say. Anyway I think the stats are silly since 1) If you follow Tesla's guidance, you are only supposed to be using Autopilot on the easiest/safest type of routes & situations 2) Total number of US...
  5. S

    The catastrophe of FSD and erosion of trust in Tesla

    Agreed. I think the "it's already L3, bro" attitudes are almost as dangerous as the "just buy one of those weights to trick the AP nag so you can really zone out on the road" promoters. Gonna get people killed. You truly have to watch the road and what this car is doing like a Drivers Ed...
  6. S

    The catastrophe of FSD and erosion of trust in Tesla

    Yes I think from all the behavior I've seen and the lack of decent blind spot indicators on the car, there is clearly a bling spot to the cameras. Another design issue that makes FSD becoming a reality (or a step function better improvement) without an updated imaging/sensor/compute suite...
  7. S

    The catastrophe of FSD and erosion of trust in Tesla

    That's funny because I always thought its highway exiting/entering was horrific and I always take over immediately anyway. One of the things that has not gotten any better in my years of driving HW2/HW3 AP.
  8. S

    The catastrophe of FSD and erosion of trust in Tesla

    Yet again tonight I was disappointed by how AP/NoA handles highway sideswipes by bad lane changers/inattentive drivers. That is to say - it does absolutely nothing and I have to intervene hard and fast. Nonetheless, it has frequently refused to pass someone and kept a slow speed if an adjacent...
  9. S

    The catastrophe of FSD and erosion of trust in Tesla

    It's been my observation that peoples experience of AP/FSD is extremely route dependent. Some regions (Northeast) have older (narrower, no shoulders, zig-saggier), pothole ridden, poorly marked (salt & season wear) highways & bridges that well predate the Eisenhower highway system. Plus a wider...
  10. S

    The catastrophe of FSD and erosion of trust in Tesla

    Exactly. They cover themselves in various caveats about where it could work, or where it might not work, and where you should use it, and where you could use it.. which parts are/aren’t beta, etc. Clearly they want users to push the envelope without taking any responsibility as a firm...
  11. S

    The catastrophe of FSD and erosion of trust in Tesla

    https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_eu/GUID-A701F7DC-875C-4491-BC84-605A77EA152C.html "Traffic Light and Stop Sign Control is designed to recognize and respond to traffic lights and stop signs, slowing Model 3 to a stop when using Traffic-Aware cruise control or Autosteer." So they...
  12. S

    The catastrophe of FSD and erosion of trust in Tesla

    Yes, on a recent drive I noticed 1) smoke often in the distance 2) google map indicating a spot of traffic in an otherwise dead stretch of road, 1-2mi away 3) as we approached I begun to see some brake lights My brain said "car fire". I immediately slowed dramatically, moved to the far left...
  13. S

    The catastrophe of FSD and erosion of trust in Tesla

    There's a lot of contradictions in Tesla's handling of features, whats in the manual, whats in the website, and what is / isn't labelled as "beta". Consider this - if AP is not supposed to work or be used in areas with cross traffic.. then why do they highlight it's ability to identify &...
  14. S

    The catastrophe of FSD and erosion of trust in Tesla

    Plus if your wife is in the passenger seat, you have 2 extra "cameras" and 1 extra "processing unit" for emergency event detection :-D
  15. S

    The catastrophe of FSD and erosion of trust in Tesla

    This is always the take thrown around but anyone remotely into photography/video would tell you- Your eyes have an order of magnitude higher "resolution" than the cameras in your Tesla, higher "refresh rate" and finally orders of magnitude better "dynamic range" (ability to see brights & darks...
  16. S

    The catastrophe of FSD and erosion of trust in Tesla

    The variance in behaviour from release to release is also a problem. It will happily fail to emergency break or alert in situations I'd have expected. On the other hand I was driving around the block that I've driven probably 1000 times before, and it freaked out beeping and alerting that I was...
  17. S

    Are you planning to own post-warranty?

    I’m coming up on the 4 year warranty on my 2018 M3 LR. On the one hand I’d like something new, on the other hand, I cannot believe how expensive the S/X and really anything else comparable have gotten (Lucid/Taycan CT/EQS).. Not to mention huge uncertain wait times with the supply chain issues...
  18. S

    2018 M3 LR Range and Warranty

    2018 M3 LR AWD here, Sept 2018 delivery Driven 25k miles Basically identical battery capacity reduction as you 0.5 years left on warranty / 2.5 years left on loan / 4.5 years let on battery warranty. If cars weren‘t in such short supply I’d probably be in the process of trading in by now...
  19. S

    Carvana just offered $68,300 for my 2021 MY LR!!!!!!

    Something happened very recently here. I had been watching the pandemic used car price spike start to melt away over the last 3 months. Suddenly my 2018 LR AWS Model 3 is back up to 93% of new according to KBB (which I've been checking frequently). Insane.
  20. S

    FSD at least a decade away (Morgan Stanley)

    Robotaxi strikes me as a bridge to nowhere. Uber/Lyft burn cash operating a capital-light model of pushing the car ownership & liability down to "independent consultants".. taking a % fee off the top. Further many of the drivers are working for peanuts, and quite often below minimum wage if...
  21. S

    One day Tesla cars will drive themselves to customer.

    You'll know Tesla actually believes their own FSD marketing when they take on the liability of FSD'ing cars to their owner.. So maybe 2030?
  22. S

    Insurance Model 3 NYC

    $1200/6mo with USAA May be some bundling discounts because of the amount of other products we have with them Brooklyn, Model 3, attended garage parked
  23. S

    Range on road trip much lower than expected (<200 miles on full charge)

    Says the guy based in San Diego where the temperature is always +/- in the Tesla performance sweet spot :-) Did you read the part about it being winter? The performance of EVs, including Tesla below ~55F starts to change pretty dramatically for every 10F drop, and add some moisture to the road...
  24. S

    why no beep for backup sensor in Model 3? [rear cross traffic warning]

    Right, the ultrasonics beep like crazy on entrance/exit from my tight 1970s suburban garage to the point of being pointless. I still end up having to slow and check all my mirrors&cameras. In the city, the ultrasonics light up like crazy when parallel parking but at least the front/back...
  25. S

    why no beep for backup sensor in Model 3? [rear cross traffic warning]

    This is impossible in 45 degree angle street parking I also question how the car will properly exit from a parallel parking spot There's a lot "well it works for the easy 75% cases well enough 75% of the time" going on with FSD, which seems to violate the Full of FSD.
  26. S

    why no beep for backup sensor in Model 3? [rear cross traffic warning]

    There are things like this in terms of driver assistance gaps that add to my list of "how will FSD ever work with current hardware" questions. If the car camera/sensors aren't enough to alert driver to cross traffic risk, then how well is the car going to back out of parking spots / execute 3...
  27. S

    Range on road trip much lower than expected (<200 miles on full charge)

    I think you're probably right on the AP usage. In theory, AP should be a smooth sober driver and keep burn rate to a minimum. However, in practice, a few times per hour, AP does some sort of stupid phantom braking, HOV lane freakout, unnecessary declaration, GPS confusion based speed reduction...
  28. S

    Range on road trip much lower than expected (<200 miles on full charge)

    As a pre-heat pump Model 3 owner now coming up on 4 years.. While I am tempted by a lot of the non-Tesla competition, 4 years has taught me I need 300mi++ range and the Supercharger network. Living in the northeast, I experience cold soaked batteries, and high consumption rates. I can't...
  29. S

    SR+ stuck in snow

    @Ngothean agreed I think this is one of many legacies of sunny California based engineering team at Tesla..
  30. S

    A close call with running out of battery power driving home

    Thanks for posting. The cars range computer should really take ambient temperature into account. Once you get below 50F your Wh/mi go up noticeably, and once in the 20s-30Fs significantly. Between the cars temperature sensor, local weather data using GPS + internet, and just general time of year...
  31. S

    Model X vs Lucid Air Touring?

    I saw a Lucid on the road already about 3 weeks back, all the way out on the east coast.. looks very sharp
  32. S

    Model 3 dent repair in New York City (Brooklyn / Long Island City), paying myself?

    Had good luck with Malibu in Coney Island for a scrape/paint repair- https://www.yelp.com/biz/malibu-auto-repair-brooklyn
  33. S

    Driver seat comfort/support vs Model 3

    So the first sort of generic flat cushion I tried didn't help much. I have no switched the last week to this guy - https://thecushionlab.com/products/pressure-relief-car-seat-cushion It is a more dense memory foam, larger in that it covers pretty much the whole seat, and gives me more support...
  34. S

    Suitability of Model Y for the daily grind of NYC commuting?

    I have a Model 3 and have lived in NYC for 3.5 years with it. Autopilot is helpful on NYC highways only in light stop&go traffic when you aren't changing lanes. The car will NOT allow you to reduce the gap between you and the car in front as low as you probably want in NYC. You will definitely...
  35. S

    Find car wash in New York City area

    Yes, its expensive, as is everything in NYC because of the land values and associated rents&wages. I think I got a full detailing for $70ish. Let's not exaggerate, as someone who has actually gone there (and if you look at their IG photos), a Tesla Model 3 is like the median customer they...
  36. S

    Range on road trip much lower than expected (<200 miles on full charge)

    What were the cabin climate control settings? Wh per mile: 359 is pretty high.. I was hitting about 325 or so in similar cold/wet winter driving conditions recently in an M3 on 18" aeros... and 300 on the way back once it dried up more. Winter highway driving can be pretty bad for efficiency.
  37. S

    Cruise control and autopilot slamming brakes when passing under blinking yellow lights on rural highway...

    I have a similar issue near me where there is a flashing yellow overhead signal and a regular traffic signal about 100 yards apart. Depending on the lighting, time of day, phase of the moon, random number generator and which direction I am traveling it can do anything from - handle perfectly OR...
  38. S

    Dangerous Freeway Autopilot Slowdown

    If the car is this reliant on perfect GPS, then there needs to be a serious rethink. In addition to hard deceleration when GPS "jumps" I've seen many, many GPS anomalies in this car. When exiting my house attached garage, the handover from Wi-Fi to LTE, the car 80% of the time has no idea where...
  39. S

    Dangerous Freeway Autopilot Slowdown

    Meanwhile I've had a few crazy cut-offs like this where the car did not budge an inch and I had to take over immediately. Here on Xmas eve at 70mph, someone rode all the way through the "left lane ends" lane past the point of it's existence.. and then used the shoulder to pass me on the left...
  40. S

    Dangerous Freeway Autopilot Slowdown

    There's so much "you're just holding it wrong" in the Tesla community it never ceases to disappoint me. A good measure of whether AP is performing well is - if you were behind the car that rapidly decelerated from 70 to 30mph out of the blue, would you think they were a good driver or bad...
  41. S

    Dangerous Freeway Autopilot Slowdown

    Yes and I am increasingly worried about Tesla's priorities / peoples attitudes around AP/FSD. Tesla is attempting to make the car be able to self drive handling highways, local roads, traffic signals, interactions with pedestrians, merges, turns, etc... But it's really hard so its all beta. But...
  42. S

    Dangerous Freeway Autopilot Slowdown

    I'm confused by Tesla's own confused messaging. You sent a screen from the owners manual. Did you click through to the support page which does not match?
  43. S

    Dangerous Freeway Autopilot Slowdown

    Did you click the actual Tesla support link? They enumerate which features are beta, and "vanilla Autosteer & Traffic-Aware Cruise Control" are not shown as beta.
  44. S

    Dangerous Freeway Autopilot Slowdown

    re: "its a beta" https://www.tesla.com/support/autopilot Isn't this just vanilla Autosteer & Traffic-Aware Cruise Control, which is very much not beta? We aren't complaining about the handling of lane changing, on/off ramps, local roads, stop signs, etc.. this is just.. drive in the lane on the...
  45. S

    Dangerous Freeway Autopilot Slowdown

    The idea that when the GPS & observed reality differ the car should slam the brakes is.. not good. The car for a while seemed to have its GPS waypoint off but recognize the highway speed limit signs and continue on at highway speed. Looks like the speed limit sign in UI changing to hard braking...
  46. S

    Dangerous Freeway Autopilot Slowdown

    So much cope guys. Can we admit this is bad and in fact very much a serious problem. If a car decelerates 30mph on a highway out of the clear blue, its a recipe to a pretty serious rear ending. I've had it happen to me repeatedly on a bridge where it suddenly thinks I am underneath on the local...
  47. S

    Lidar vs Camera revisited

    I normally describe Tesla Autopilot as, if anything, being unsafe in how conservative rather than aggressive it can be. That is - braking too hard/unexpectedly, weird hesitations at merges/ramps, etc that are going to cause it to get rear ended. Similarly the following distance even set to...
  48. S

    MASTER THREAD: Range Loss Over Time, What Can Be Expected, Efficiency, How to Maintain Battery Health

    On a POSITIVE note I would add, the reason to get a Tesla, especially in the US is that they still have some of the longest range vehicles and a vastly superior charging network for when you do need to top off on the go. While there are competitive vehicles I've been eying this year which on...
  49. S

    MASTER THREAD: Range Loss Over Time, What Can Be Expected, Efficiency, How to Maintain Battery Health

    Yes, and without reading some real-world tests, people don't realize that different vehicles are optimized differently. So it is not as simple as knocking 15% off the range of every vehicle when comparing. Gearing, regen performance, drag coefficient, weight, torque, etc all impact how the...
  50. S

    FSD or no FSD?

    These features are extremely extremely hit or miss and their usefulness will depend on what region OP lives, the type of driving they do, if they have passengers and their general beta testing tolerance. * NoA handles on-ramps/off-ramps worse than an NYC cabbie deep into his 12 hours shift *...

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