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If your standard is "an insignificantly tiny % of all owners can be found complaining about it" then apparently all of these suck too: iPhones Android phones PCs Macs Literally every brand and model of car ever made Every airline ever Every TV show ever Every movie ever Every book ever (I could...

...no? I mean, some folks DO have a better MCU- but that isn't what the beta uses to drive-- there's a separate driving computer for that-- currently HW3, and it's the same silicon for everyone (there's a physically different mount and stuff for 3/Y vs S/X though) The cameras there's not been...

<citation needed> Tons of folks have posted here over the years about how well things like ALC and NoA work for them. Tons more have asked for years to bring back EAP specifically so they can get those without paying full FSD price. Heck that's how we got to this discussion- folks asking Elon...

To my knowledge no AP2.x owner who has bought EAP has ever gotten a free HW3 upgrade as a result, so no idea why that would change now. Does it? (I legit don't know- as I already had HW3 upgraded free by the time this feature came out and can't recall anyone actually confirming this...

This has been a really interesting Rorschach test Some folks are convinced this is proof FSD is far away- so they're desperate to get SOME money now from more people. Others are convinced this is proof FSD is REALLY CLOSE- because that means having the "more than EAP" stuff in one...

Except, it's not. Because FSDBeta is explicitly missing numerous, required, functions for anything higher than L2 driving- (a >L2 capable OEDR being the biggest) and Tesla has no plans to add them to that code. They explicitly said so in legal responses to CA DMV that were made pubic a while...

So you're saying ICs 25% OTM on call side and 15% OTM on put side :)

Except, of course, you can buy them. From Tesla. What do you think someone does if they damage an uberturbine wheel- did you think they need to buy a whole new car to replace it? No- they buy one from Tesla. Which sells them. And will be happy to sell you 4 instead of 1 if you prefer. For...

More often than not 485 has been quicker than 85 to get through the area based on traffic in my experience (which is a shame because the 85 charlotte one has a decent Chinese restaurant there). Apart from which the Mallard Creek supercharger is nearer to 85 than it is to 485--- so EITHER route...

FYI- those are not "sent" anywhere- so you're wasting your time doing that over and over. Bug reports sit local on the car. Service centers can view them remotely if you open a service ticket- but otherwise nobody at Tesla ever sees them. (this is different from the special "send snapshot"...

That would make total sense if that was the only way to get them. But of course you can buy them separately for far less money (and even get a partial refund by selling your old wheels!) Supercruise you can't add by itself though- and also can't to the base model after purchase (unlike EAP or...

I haven't stopped in Greenville (which I agree sucks) since Fair Play opened-- no need with all the other options. Including Piedmont which as noted is only a few minutes further south, and V3 instead of V2. So Charlotte to Atlanta (city center to city center) is only 280 miles...

In actual context, he said radar was important because it provides info that vision literally can not provide-- specifically things like seeing through fog and other visually obstructing weather, and bouncing under vehicles to see ones ahead. He made no remarks qualifying that based on how good...

He does. But he also was on Daves show saying how Tesla was smart to reject LIDAR, but to include radar since it's an important system to include for bad weather a few weeks before Tesla announced they were removing radar. Then he was on a few weeks later explaining how it was a smart idea to...

There's one in Buford just a bit off 85. Between that and Fair Play, even starting a fair bit east of Charlotte, driving to Atlanta has been a super easy route for charging for me for a good while now.

Can you cite the law you think "legally allows" this? Because AFAIK there isn't one. Both are L2 ADAS systems that require a driver always paying attention. There's no "law" that says what your hands need to do that is different for Tesla vs Ford.

You mean the bluecruise that turns itself off on mild highway curves? It's only 'comparable' to systems that actually work in that both are sold by car companies. Plus, again, it doesn't do anything that the free basic AP on every Tesla sold does other than "not check for your hands on the...

...what? If all you want is supercruise on a base GM car- the cost is what I said it is. Not sure where you're going with the video game analogy there. [ Well yes, I would- because that would literally be the cost to get AP on that vehicle. Yes, because EAP offers vastly more functionality...

The EUV supercruise is the "old" caddy product. It only does TACC and single-lane autosteer. Equivalent to Teslas free basic AP (except it works on vastly fewer roads- but does not do a hands-check on the steering wheel). Oh, and like the caddy one, it comes with 3 years of 'free' service...

No, it's not. First- to get it as an option at all you need to move up $10,000-$20,000 in model trim. THEN pay $2500. THEN pay a monthly fee after a few years on top. (the trim upgrade cost is a bit lower to get it on the Bolt EUV, but only the old version is available and it's still way more...

FWIW, next-gen stuff is also coming out in a couple months, so the fact they're "only" near MSRP right now, when in the past they'd be comfortably discounted this close to launching next gen, isn't quite the win for consumers you might think.... Scalpers have no interest in stocking up on cards...

Well in the original version it was worthless except as a tech demo. Failed to detect a spot most of the time, even then only if it was between 2 other parked cars, and super slow to then park in it. The vision version easily and routinely detects spots even with NO other cars (it sees...

FWIW autopark is a lot better than it used to be- it's finally using vision instead of the ultrasonics.

This is flatly untrue, as confirmed by tons of folks doing measured 0-60 runs in both modes. Repeated WOT tests in chill producing a 0-60 around 7 seconds. Sport mode produces 0-60s in the 3s.

That "was", combined with apparently LR Ys coming out of Austin, suggests the past tense there is intentional and those LRs are 2170

AFAIK radar is still supported on all cars that physically have it, except for cars in the FSDBeta program (and @verygreen has confirmed this pretty recently in the code) The easy check on this is what is the max speed you can set while on AP on the freeway? if it's 90, you're still using...

I mentioned this just a couple days ago about insurance.... The only emails I ever get from Tesla are about solar, which I can't even get here. In fact I got one yesterday. They know I can't order it becuase they know my address, but I've gotten multiple sales emails from em pushing it. I...

Basic AP comes on all new cars, including the vast majority of em without radar- so they already have the code for distance ahead without radar that's running on HW3-- adding EAP doesn't change that it just unlocks some features (that no radar FSD cars already had anyway)-- that's still almost...

Ford copying Tesla again :) https://www.autoblog.com/2022/06/24/ford-ends-purchase-option-on-leased-vehicles/

Arizona is a big state. Waymo only operates in a tiny section of it. They only get rain at all about 35 days a year on average. Though I'm unsure how this even impacts the actual discussion- which was around the mistaken concept L4 requires humans, or that the only reason there's no...

FWIW back in 2016 when EAP first went on sale it was 5k, and lots of folks bought it. 6k is cheap with inflation :) (in fairness, new EAP also has less features, as 2 of the major ones are now standard on all models) The one bit of weirdness here is where this leaves EAP owners regarding the...

I'm not aware of there BEING a monsoon season in Chandler AZ. But they're also doing L4 in California...they've been testing there (and having accidents there!) for many years. Right now they're DEPLOYED in San Francisco, to the public, without a human driver, for taxi rides (though limited...

Well, 2 things First, that makes a vast, vast, difference to his entire argument. Since AFAIK nobody is deploying, or even intending to deploy, L3 robotaxis. Second- even then he's still wrong :) L3 does not require the human to "be there watching the car" constantly. By definition in L3...

TeslaOS is linux :P And app store has been discussed at length, many times, going back years. Plenty of evidence they plan to eventually have one- but plenty of odd seems-to-be-taking-a-long-while stuff too. Tesla demoed AAA games (like Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2077) over 18 months ago on the...

This is flat out false. L4, by definition, can never require a human to be safe. And multiple companies are running L4 cars without drivers in them. Today. With public passengers. Didn't bother addressing the rest of the post since it's entirely based on a false premise. EDIT- Shout out...

The beta is not available for purchase. It is by invite, at no charge- but the group of folks eligible to be invited is limited to those with both FSD and who opted in to be considered for an invite and with a good enough safety score (and likely other location based criteria not fully disclosed)

I did. You can tell because everyone got it but you. And your post history makes it pretty clear you're only pretending you didn't.

There's already been dozens of driverless accidents among those deploying/testing L4 robotaxis. Nobody's been sued out of business though. Also, given all available stats show Teslas as the safest vehicles on the road, can you cite what leads you to your "tesla might be reckless enough"...

I don't know that just the motor is sufficient, is there any evidence the "standard" LR battery and wiring in the 3 is capable of the higher sustained output needed? If it is (of which I'm dubious) then I agree it's a much better possibility years from now when there's any 'real' competition...

It certainly does. But none are remotely big enough to fit a whole other car into. Basically it can't see anything in the space forward of the front fender cams and below the hoodline. The B-pillar angled-forward cams and 3 front cams can see just fine above said hoodline. You could sneak a...

While I agree FSD isn't nearly as solved as anybody seems to think- and having been in the beta for a while it's not Coming Soon- the regulator bit is 100% a red herring. It's legal right now in at least half a dozen US states with no additional "approval" needed from anybody. If you had a...

No, but it should be one to repeatedly claim the BMW is faster from any starting speed above 0 when that's outright false :) As pointed out, the Tesla still gets to the end of the 1/4 mile before the BMW does. But by all means, for the massive amount of driving I totally believe you actually...

Those are all perfect examples of exactly the kind of added complexity Elon specifically says they do NOT want to add in the video :) They'd much prefer to increase total vehicle output, simplest possible supply chain and MFG complexity, and let the aftermarket figure out offerings like...

Can you show me where it loses in all those cases? The only one there's been any cite for was specifically 0-100. What's even funnier is- the C&D data predates the power updates Tesla pushed out to the P. That's why they clocked 11.6 in the 1/4 while it routinely puts down 11.3x now, so a...

No, it does not. Let me remind you of "your" argument: And yet using Car and Driver measured data--- the Tesla wins the race multiple times NOT from a dead stop. 5-60, 30-50, and 50-70--- the Tesla wins all of them, and comfortably. So your argument is factually wrong. yes, it does...

It is, given every calibrated measurement says I'm right and you refuse to accept facts. "Measured by a professional device" is useful info and shows the Tesla is quicker 0-60, in the 1/4 mile, AND FROM A ROLL AS WELL both 30-50 and 50-70. "Rando on youtube had a better reaction time from a...

And weirdly, 1/4 mile races all start at 0 and care about traction. So the BMW loses every time. By quite a bit. <Citation required> Meanwhile, I have some that says you're continuing to be wrong about this... same source for both to be fair...

And yet takes longer to get there- so yes, it is true. [email protected] for the pig heavy BMW. Meanwhile the dragy leaderboards are clogged with Model 3Ps running 11.3x 1/4 miles at just under 119 mph. Nobody ever bragged about "I was going 1.1 mph faster when I lost the race!" and the BMW i4 is...

Well, the other issue is there's still limited supply of everything-- for example it's likely Tesla could shave at least a couple tenths off in weight savings from structural 4680 battery packs-- but for the foreseeable future all 4680 supply will be going to first some Austin and then Berlin...

That is all added complexity. Complexity in supply chain for multiple parts, complexity in inventory and service for multiple parts, complexity in the MFG process, complexity in BOM and SN tracking for different parts, etc Same reason the "standard" interior never appeared- the complexity of...