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    Polestar 2 DM vs BMW i4 M50

    I agree about those i4 styling issues. I wouldn't reject the car over them though if it was otherwise my top choice. Model 3 styling took a long time to grow on me, I really didn't like it at first. Even now it's okay. Model S still much better looking. :) Looking back at this comparison I'm...
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    Road trip a Brand New M3P?

    @Mikeoo7 Good luck to your family and your mom going through this!
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    Restrict Drivers from Enabling Track Mode?

    Valet mode, or get a cheap old beater car to lend them.
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    Road trip a Brand New M3P?

    I would guess - I don't have Tesla's data - that infant mortality on these cars is quite low. Minor issues maybe likely but I wouldn't worry about getting stranded, anymore than I would driving any random car. Yes such issues happen but keep in mind how high volume the Model 3 is. The...
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    Regenerative braking saved me from 2 accidents today

    @TomT That is true, I've felt the delay in every Tesla I've driven (many). And one non-Tesla EV I've driven seemed to have less delay in OPD regen kicking in and ramping up (which I liked). However...when I disable regen braking in my M3P (Track Mode 0% regen), subjectively the brakes feeling...
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    Restrict Drivers from Enabling Track Mode?

    If you don't trust these other drivers, how about Valet Mode? I assume that blocks Track Mode (though I haven't tested to confirm). I'm not even sure what you're trying to achieve by only blocking Track Mode. The car gives full acceleration without it, you can go joyriding and get in trouble...
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    Martian Wheels MW03 - New discussion thread

    @JSWE LOL did you really just ask that in a Tesla forum? 😆 That's the world of these days though, of shortages and inflation. If you wait until the next batch of something arrives, it might sold out already from others' orders, and/or the price may go up. There's risk either way.
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    Model Y P vs Rivian R1S

    @Suns_PSD Looking through your post history I have to ask: Do you have a Tesla vehicle, or one on order? If not, why are you here? If you do have a Tesla and you're as unhappy with it as you sound, how about selling it while used car prices are still sky-high? This is a lot of angst over a...
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    Thoughts on Tesla Model 3 Megan EZII Series Coilovers?

    At the risk of going too far off [email protected] do you just mean harshness from the springs being stiffer and lower? Or did they add noise or increase vibrations too for some reason? I've never replaced springs alone on a car but I always imagined they wouldn't really add/change any noise...
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    Toyota halting sales of EV because wheel can fall off?

    This isn't good. The only real selling point I see in the bZ4X is the potential for typical Toyota-level reliability. Starting off with the wheels falling off is not promising in that regard. What's interesting to me here is what Toyota hasn't said - why are the hub bolts coming loose...
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    Thoughts on the BMW i4 M50?

    @Jigglypuff Thought exercise: If my ideal sporty 4 door EV had the weight vs refinement trade-off of the 2021+ M3P, the traction of the M3P (or better), the M3P's Track Mode (without the annoying enter-via-Park restriction!), the quick direct steering of the M3P....but the liftgate of the i4...
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    Car & Driver: The Mach E is simply better than the Model Y

    There's many things to like about the Mach-E. I came away from my test drives thinking it was an overall good car. But I didn't know about the lurking drivetrain issues, nor that Ford would botch OTA updates and then not even comp dealers to update the cars manually (aside from recall updates)...
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    Thoughts on the BMW i4 M50?

    @Jigglypuff S is bigger than an i4 but many S models are actually lighter. Probably thanks to the aluminum chassis among other things. You can't judge an S based on a Y. After our 2021 MYLR test drive I told my wife sure we can buy one if you like, but you're going to have to drive it most of...
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    Car & Driver: The Mach E is simply better than the Model Y

    9+ Mach-E trim levels and it sounds like none of them is profitable. Yeah Henry Ford would not be proud. I like some customization, but EVs need to be sustainable for the companies making them. Maybe Ford (of today) should have taken a page out of the Ford (of 100 years ago) playbook to achieve...
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    Thoughts on the BMW i4 M50?

    The other issue I have with the i4 M50 is that if did want a faster, smoother, more comfortable EV with a liftgate...I might rather have a newish Model S. It wouldn't be a clear-cut choice, there's clearly ups and downs to each and I'd definitely need to test drive the i4 M50 before deciding to...
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    Thoughts on the BMW i4 M50?

    @Jigglypuff True, you get real features and benefits for the extra weight. But whether they're worth it is a matter of priorities. I wouldn't want those for my M3P if it meant 1000 lbs extra weight. Priorities! 😀 It seems BMW built a fast, smooth, and highly refined rocketship cruiser. I...
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    why no beep for backup sensor in Model 3? [rear cross traffic warning]

    @Gasaraki To be fair, older cars - especially 90s or earlier - had much better visibility than modern cars high beltlines, thick pillars, and limited rear glass area. Model 3 is far from the worst in those regards, I think it's pretty good by modern standards, but still nothing like the...
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    Polestar 2 DM vs BMW i4 M50

    https://apnews.com/article/8ceda09fddf3c2c4438cd3c663566289 Interesting comparison of the two best fun/sporty Model 3 competitors on the market right now. Everything they wrote matches up with what I've read from firsthand accounts of each cars, and also my two test drives of a Polestar 2...
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    Model Y P vs Rivian R1S

    @voxel I asked a First Mile rep at their charging booth about DCFC specifically and they were very clear that DCFC is in the works, not just L2. Until their DC chargers actually start showing up in the wild I wouldn't count on it actually happening of course. But it is a stated goal! I hope...
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    MPP compression rod and control arm bearings.

    I've no idea what mine would be either! Probably bad enough to disqualify for FSD and have crazy high Tesla insurance rates though. :)
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    MPP compression rod and control arm bearings.

    I really don't know how you all tolerate the safety score. I think it would drive me nuts and harm my mental health.
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    MPP compression rod and control arm bearings.

    @dfwatt I'm not who you need to convince. :) I'm well aware of that law you're referencing. As I said, good luck! I do mean that, I hope they repair it for you and under warranty. Let us know the outcome and whether you had to get adversarial to achieve it. Is your wife's car lowered? Does...
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    Ford requiring owners of F-150 Lightnings to not sell them in first year

    Exactly what @Lloyd wrote. Why is it okay for Ford's dealers to charge markup and profit extra from the current market, but not their customers? The double standard is ridiculous. Plus life circumstances change. Yeah some first year resales will be just out for a quick buck, but others will...
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    Ordered M3P coming from FBO E85 Golf R...hope the Model 3 can check the same boxes

    @paradoxical You'll miss the hatch for sure, and the seats. Doubt you'll miss any low speed power/acceleration, as you say in "real world" driving the M3P is quicker than an ICE car that needs carefully orchestrated launch control. Whether you'll miss the high speed pull is really a personal...
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    MPP compression rod and control arm bearings.

    @dfwatt Ah good luck with that, let us know how it goes. I've been assuming Tesla won't do any suspension work with coilovers on. I'll consider it a very nice bonus if they do! I take that to mean no inserts in that bushing, since you're seeking warranty repair.
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    Any other owners second guess if their next car should be another Tesla?

    @Suns_PSD That's an extremely valid concern. You could also apply those exact words to Tesla when we bought our Model S. Need to evaluate your own risk tolerances and whether the ride is worth it to you! (Well neither our Model S nor our future R1T was / will be 6 figures...but certainly...
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    MPP compression rod and control arm bearings.

    @dfwatt What did that bushing look like when it failed? Torn rubber? Any separation from the arm/rod itself? Did your wife's car have inserts in that bushing for any of those 40k miles? I'm wondering if the inserts could help with longevity, by reducing how much the rubber can be...
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    AutoX times on UHP All Seasons vs Stickier tires?

    @Lindenwood If you just want to have fun, and you're not trying to compete at all costs, you don't need separate autox tires. There are - or were - summer tires that would hold up to autox (or track) use, while still being reasonably street friendly. I can't give any current tire...
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    AutoX times on UHP All Seasons vs Stickier tires?

    Squeezing in 295 tires + 10.5" wide wheels on a Model 3 just to run allseasons seems...nonsensical to be honest. :) Why not run tires appropriate for the driving? What are you trying to achieve by continuing with allseasons? I echo what others are saying, tire choice is more important than...
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    Pirelli P Zero Tires Good / Bad?

    @vickh Yup.
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    Pirelli P Zero Tires Good / Bad?

    @vickh You can fit 245s just fine on the stock aero wheels. Both 245 and 235 are recommended sizes for 8.5" wide wheels. I'm running 245/45R18 on my 18x8.5" wheels. My other Tesla came with 245 on 8.5" wide and so did my last ICE car. 245/45 vs 235/35 is only a small difference, don't expect to...
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    Going to order a new Model 3 performance. Should I consider the long range AWD?

    @phaheem 18" wheels can fit over the M3P PUP brakes. I have 18x8.5" wheels on my 2021 M3P (with PUP), same size as the 18" aero wheels. It is a snug fit and some 18s don't clear due to barrel or spoke shape, but many are known to fit, there are plenty of known good options. Some, like the...
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    Neighbor had some questions about my Model 3

    Naw it's just a golf cart with doors. Is your neighbor living in 2013?
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    Pic of your Model 3.......RIGHT NOW! [model 3 pictures thread]

    @E.Potter Nice flush fitment 👍
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    Pic of your Model 3.......RIGHT NOW! [model 3 pictures thread]

    @S54Chris Titan7 T-S5 18x8.5" ET35 in Satin Titanium
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    Any other owners second guess if their next car should be another Tesla?

    @kelpcar Our automobile needs have evolved, and we're only a family of 3 so no need for a 3 row SUV. Many things we'd rather put in a truck bed than the cabin of a nice brand new high end vehicle.
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    Any other owners second guess if their next car should be another Tesla?

    The comments about other car brands being a worse overall experience I agree with too. I'll take Tesla sales and service over dealerships any day. That's based on personal experience with past cars, and recent experiences of friends trying to buy non-Tesla cars and get them serviced. Everything...
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    Pic of your Model 3.......RIGHT NOW! [model 3 pictures thread]

    Right this moment... They're both ours. :)
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    Any other owners second guess if their next car should be another Tesla?

    What @bjhinkle said. That's exactly what my wife and I found as of last fall. Our 2013 S P85 was our only car for many years, since our child was born. Last year a life change meant we needed two cars going forward. My first thought was well one should be ICE then...lol I was so wrong. We test...
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    Going to order a new Model 3 performance. Should I consider the long range AWD?

    @metroplex You can modify your car in many ways with aftermarket parts that no carmaker would ever spec from the factory on a mass produced car. If Tesla wanted to combine 18" wheels with the PUP brakes - which clearly they don't - maybe they would reshape/redesign the parking brake for more...
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    Going to order a new Model 3 performance. Should I consider the long range AWD?

    @texas_star_TM3 I agree with you in general and I put 18" wheels on my M3P. The 18s are a very snug fit over the brakes especially the rear parking brake. To be honest I can't really see any car maker offering 18" wheels over these brakes from the factory, too likely for tire shops to mess up...
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    Ioniq 5 vs Model Y

    All this Macan talk...any of you actually drive one? I thought it was a complete dud. The only good aspect was the suspension tuning...yes much much better than MYLR suspension I tested. Probably the best CUV suspension I've experienced. But the rest of the Macan was mediocre at best. Cramped...
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    Model Y LR vs P comfort

    @Martina Manson Test drive both! Are you unable to test drive?
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    Going to order a new Model 3 performance. Should I consider the long range AWD?

    @Blacktes24 I switched to 245/45R18 Bridgestone Potenza Sport tires on 18x8.5" ET35 Titan7 T-S5 forged wheels. The wheels are a direct fit made for the M3P, no centering rings or spacers needed, they're bored for the "stepped lip" hub and the offset is correct to match stock fitment. The...
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    Going to order a new Model 3 performance. Should I consider the long range AWD?

    @metroplex Yup the M3P 20" wheels are a liability. I ordered 18s before we even picked up the car. With good performance tires there's no downside to 18s except for looks, it was actually a performance and efficiency upgrade thanks to better tires + much lighter wheels. You can sell the stock...
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    Going to order a new Model 3 performance. Should I consider the long range AWD?

    @metroplex The most important thing Track Mode adds is dialing back the nannies, so you can actually put power down exiting turns, use the car's full grip+traction, and slide it if you like. It also lets you influence front:back power split when giving it power in a turn, to have less or more...
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    Price increase? [posted 06.16.2022]

    On the pricing topic, one question I keep in mind is would I still buy my car again right now? M3P is (and was before this non-P increase) $5k more than when I purchased...yeah I probably would. I'd definitely test drive the i4 M50 if it's out now, though I expect I'll end up ranking it 3rd for...
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    Price increase? [posted 06.16.2022]

    @rjpjnk Yup. And look at that 2021 M3LR result. A new 2021+ M3P will have the same efficiency except for the wheels and tires. Which DO make a difference, but they're NOT going to drop it from 345 all the way to 256. Using that old 2018 Edmunds test to compare with is just FUD. Putting smaller...
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    Going to order a new Model 3 performance. Should I consider the long range AWD?

    @metroplex Track Mode is the biggest differentiator. If you don't care about that, sure get an LR. If your plan is to buy an LR thinking it'll get Track Mode...I've got some oceanfront property in Nevada to sell you. It'll happen around the same time. ;)
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    Show of hands… Adaptive Suspension

    Well, service center staff can't really solve software or engineering issues on their own. It's the escalation process and Tesla engineering's lack of taking ownership or even being responsive to these software-y escalations that is the problem. Not really service center staffs' fault, I'm...

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