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  1. Exelion

    Enhanced AutoPilot (EAP) Has Returned!

    Five total features for $6,000. That’s $1,200 per feature. I’m only interested in ONE, auto lane changing. I’d definitely pay $1,200 for the auto lane change if it was offered individually.
  2. Exelion

    CCS Adapter - ?

    How about Tesla deactivating all the stalls next to the ones being used until all those stalls are taken? It won't take long for people to realize the ones aren't working are the ones next to someone else. I'd put it on Tesla to implement things like this rather than the continuous...
  3. Exelion

    When is ultra Long Range battery coming?

    The argument is made only by people who compare EV ranges to their gasoline powered counterparts, without taking in other considerations. They just can’t wrap their head around a car that can only go for two hundred something miles instead of 300-400. All the above statements about charging...
  4. Exelion

    Electrify America general discussion

    I think the charging cabinets on islands (like gas station pumps), and having longer reaching cables is the best way to go. Looking back in history, while almost all cars have fuel filler doors towards the rear of the car on the left or right side, I can distinctly remember some with very odd...
  5. Exelion

    Electrify America general discussion

    If only a vehicle manufacturer could make their own charging systems with just the right length of cable, for their own cars!!! Oh wait……
  6. Exelion

    Electrify America general discussion

    EA cables need to be longer, its that simple. At least EvGo has long cables and an overhead tensioning mechanism (like many gas stations have) to prevent the cable from scratching itself on the ground or worse, getting run over. But yes, EA is where I have to come up with the most elaborate...
  7. Exelion

    Model Y P vs Rivian R1S

    I don’t think there’s that many CCS cars as there are a variety of them. That may fool many into thinking there’s tons out there, but there’s not. The mfgr’s don’t have the capability of making as many as they want, and the order books are full for every model up until the end of next year...
  8. Exelion

    Setec CCS to Tesla Adapter

    If the pin on the adapter is broken, well, we’ll probably know about it. The pin is simple enough to see if it broke off-part of it is metal and seems sturdy enough. I’m even willing to guess there’s an indicator which will prevent charging if the car-side of the pin is broken and the pin...
  9. Exelion

    CCS Adapter - ?

    Yep! On Memorial Day holiday weekend, free Supercharging (on select, inter-city sites) was from 7:00 PM to 10:00 AM. I plugged in at 9:55 AM and the entire session was free! The SC site was a lot less crowded than I thought it would be with plenty of stalls available. It must be hard for...
  10. Exelion

    CCS Adapter - ?

    EVgo has installed (and still in the process, aparently) of retrofitting a lot of their sites with Tesla CHAD adapters, allowing every single EV sold in north america to DC charge, if they are capable of it. What they did was put an adapter into a box, and extended it from the CHAD handle...
  11. Exelion

    CCS Adapter - ?

    Here’s something interesting to note. So I was charging from the EVgo today. This particular site has two 350kw handles, and two mixed handles, where one CCS is 100kw and the Tesla/CHAD is 50kw. So obviously, i tried to use the 350kw CCS1 handles first. Both stopped charging after two...
  12. Exelion

    CCS Adapter - ?

    Thinking about this a little further, I think what Tesla is going to do will depend on how much money is given out, and the exact requirements. For example: If the requirement is that any EV be able to charge from any site, then obviously the easiest, and cheapest way is to pick up the...
  13. Exelion

    CCS Adapter - ?

    Which would cost more? Adding CCS cables to Tesla pedestals vs. selling Tesla > CCS1 adapters for CCS1 cars? I think the CCS cable retrofit would cost more. It would take technicians time to go to each site and retrofit pedestals. And in the beginning, not all pedestals would be CCS1...
  14. Exelion

    CCS Adapter - ?

    No way to get around this by using a phone app (which Tesla can make/modify) to designate and turn on the charging handle? So there's more to it than just that? Hard to wrap my head around that Tesla -> CCS1 is a passive adapter, but the other way around isn't.
  15. Exelion

    When is structural battery pack & 4680 cells coming & Why are you not waiting until then?

    You might not see it, you might not notice it, and it might not be happening where you live, but it IS happening. Very fast. In just last year, 4,200 DC fast charge plug handles got installed. This includes Supercharger and other mfgr. DCFC’s. Average-> about 11 per DAY. And individual L2...
  16. Exelion

    Supercharger Shock!

    I’m going to make a guess that’s under this plan, and getting an additional 25% off from CARE program: 0.75 of $0.23 = $0.17 per kw. I realize its also current as of last year but many people are grandfathered in and their rates have not been raised. Also, notice that the more electricity...
  17. Exelion

    Supercharger Shock!

    I disagree. There’s a DCFC about seven miles away from my house that costs less than charging at home, and it’s hardly ever full. ($.20 vs $.24 at home) They are expensive because that’s the way things are now, but I don’t think it’s something that absolutely has to be, later on. If a company...
  18. Exelion

    Today's trivia: 9 ways to open the charge port door

    Apple Watch has an app available called *Watch for Tesla* It's really useful in showing you stuff like charging stats, inside/outside temps, and has customizable controls.
  19. Exelion

    Supercharger Shock!

    -Superchargers have a lot of plug cabinets. Lots of cabinets take up lots of space and lots of space cost high in rent. However, I’d rather have that than one or two cabinets per, scattered all across a town. -Superchargers push lots of power. Lots of power at once needs lots of money. As...
  20. Exelion

    Reaching the Magic $25,000 Price Point, Who First?

    At least you know now. Unfortunately, a LOT of people are going to find this sad fact long after they purchase it and are on their first road trip. Then at the first stop, when it takes a good hour plus, they wonder if “all EV’s are like this”. When they find out they’re not, it’s too late...
  21. Exelion

    Reaching the Magic $25,000 Price Point, Who First?

    As great as it sounds, the big dealbreaker for the Bolt/EUV is the DC charge speed-> 50kW max. 45 mins to an hour and half for charging is painfully slow. And as much as people say its An around-town car only, many people will still want to take it long distance. Don’t know why Chevy didn’t...
  22. Exelion

    CCS Adapter - ?

    Have you seen the Tesla CHAdeMO adapter, coupled with the weight of a CHAdeMO plug? It’s probably at least twice as heavy as the CCS adapter. That’s the one that looks like it will snap off with a mean stare! If the car can handle that heavy pig of an adapter, it will handle the CCS adapter...
  23. Exelion

    CCS Adapter - ?

    And two screens, and passenger lumbar support, and track mode, and radar, and and and and……….
  24. Exelion

    CCS Adapter - ?

    There’s quite a few new developments I’ve seen that have absolutely no gas lines throughout the entire community, so everything has to be electric. Maybe its because of regulation or distance from the nearest gas resources. Electric stove, electric clothes dryers, electric gas ovens, etc...
  25. Exelion

    CCS Adapter - ?

    Time to sell CHAdeMO adapters on eBay then!
  26. Exelion

    CCS Adapter for North America

    that’s what I was wondering too….why am I paying $0.23+ per kW but others in other states are paying from $0.04-$0.11. That’s a big difference! It’s gotta be management and politics.
  27. Exelion

    CCS Adapter for North America

    I’d be very surprised if that was nuclear, solar or wind. Those are not cheap. Most likely hydro, coal or natural gas.
  28. Exelion

    CCS Adapter - ?

    Exactly this. During the early years of CCS vs CHAD, the latter was actually more popular because there were more cars using them (Leaf especially). But as the years went on, more automakers chose not to use it. V2G feature may have saved it, but it wasn’t pursued, (a shame!) and so now the...
  29. Exelion

    CCS Adapter - ?

    No, it doesn't, if you look at it that way. Some people have charging credits with EVGo (somewhere along the lines of $1,000) so they need that adapter to take advantage of such a deal, and also, some brands offer lower priced rates ($0.20/kwh). Then there's some people who have cars in the...
  30. Exelion

    CCS Adapter - ?

    Even if CHAD could deliver the same amount of energy as CCS1/2, I don’t think its desirable, I’ll even go as far to say it’s the worst of the bunch. Win the war? i certainly hope not. Two things: the huge weight and bulk of the charging handle (plus its massive cable!), and the fact that it...
  31. Exelion

    CCS Adapter for North America

    Then there’s even a possibility of twin-charge, where one 150kW vehicle takes up two spots and uses two cables to charge-one cable charges half the battery and the other cable charges the other half. Essentially charging two 75kW vehicles!
  32. Exelion

    CCS Adapter for North America

    Hopefully not that soon- the question then becomes, have we maxxed out the capabilities of either CCS1 or TPC (Tesla)? How much more kW can they safely push into the car? Think 400v or 800v cars-how much faster can we get with what infrastructure we have now?
  33. Exelion

    CCS Adapter for North America

    Yes, because everyone (should be) be at work for eight hours or so! I’d even say six chargers at 20amps would be fine. Eight hours at 20 amps should be roughly 30 or so kWh. Not bad! Throw some L1’s into the mix for the PHEV’s too. Those guys finish charging in only two hours but leave...
  34. Exelion

    CCS Adapter for North America

    See, there’s different ways Tesla can go about this, depending on the exact wording of the law. If opening up a Supercharger for other automakers meant simply making a Supercharger site accessible to other cars, well, partnering up with EA or EVGo and have them install their DCFC chargers in...
  35. Exelion

    LA -> Vegas roadtrip?

    The problem with that place is that its not within summer walking distance (when temps hit 100+) from the supercharger. It’s one thing to do something while waiting for the supercharger, another to do it before or after supercharging.
  36. Exelion

    LA -> Vegas roadtrip?

    In a Model Y LR, due to the elevation decline, it’s actually possible to drive from Vegas back to LA (depends where you live in LA) with zero charging stops! Done it, even with AC on with temp in the 90’s. Of course, not possible to do that going the other way (LA to Vegas). Incline saps all...
  37. Exelion

    CCS Adapter - ?

    Just toss em’ naked into the side console! They’ll be fine!
  38. Exelion

    CCS Adapter - ?

    Quite a lot, The ones I know around here, from most chargers to least, are: Electrify America EVGo ChargePoint Shell Recharge (formerly Greenlots) Ev Connect Evolve Charging blink (These chargers are the worst. I wonder if the company is still in business) I'm hoping one or a few of...
  39. Exelion

    CCS Adapter - ?

    They charge per kWh here. $0.50 per kWh to be exact. Not cheap, i keep wondering if gallons of gasoline is more expensive than DC charging, especially the high cost of electricity here (home and on the road)
  40. Exelion

    CCS Adapter - ?

    Not all Teslas can use the CCS1 adapter. I would even venture to say it may be more than half, can’t. That’s S’s and X’s from 2012-2019, model 3’s from 2017-2019. And! A bunch of 2020’s and 2021 3’s and Y’s that can’t use them due to a manufacturing shortage. That’s a lot of cars! It also...
  41. Exelion

    CCS Adapter - ?

    This. This, right here is why Supercharger network is still a whole lot better than even the biggest and (self claimed) best CCS network. The sad truth is that people with CCS cars don’t have any idea how much better the Supercharger system is, they only know there’s a lot of charging stalls...
  42. Exelion

    Are the Model Y/3 Tapped Out?

    Tesla's are still selling, in extremely high demand. On the order page, Model 3 standards and Y LR's will be delivering end of this year (possibly next), if you order now. That doesn't sound anything near losing to other manufacturers. Losing to other manufacturers would read more like...
  43. Exelion

    CCS Adapter - ?

    This leads me to think that Tesla Korea is loosening up their CCS1 order requirements. Hope they have lots of these in stock!
  44. Exelion

    CCS Adapter - ?

    I don’t know when it was implemented, but it seems you can navigate to EVGo stations and the battery will pre-heat for you (it used to be you have to fool it by selecting a supercharger station). Electrify America stations don’t show up though. It may be possible these are the EVGo stations...
  45. Exelion

    CCS Adapter - ?

    Nobody knows. What we do know is it was first mentioned sometime last October. Then it was announced to be available in Korea. After that, various mentions that it should becoming to the US *soon*. Personally, I think it will be sometime shortly as small shipments from Korean export...
  46. Exelion

    CCS Adapter - ?

    So does that mean that volkswagon cars (unlike Tesla) might not be sending the VIN number of the car to the charging cabinet for payment processing? If true, This would mean free electricity for all their cars if at least one family member has an id.4!
  47. Exelion

    CCS Adapter - ?

    That’s a good question. The only time I can see that being the case would be when the CCS handle is broken and the CHadEMO handle works on the same cabinet, and there is not another cabinet next to it that works (and not being used). Most of the stations I’ve seen have at least two cabinets...
  48. Exelion

    CCS Adapter - ?

    The app won’t tell you- you’ll have to go check from inside the car. 2020 October has a decent chance of having the capability……
  49. Exelion

    CCS Adapter - ?

    (Make sure your car is capable of using the CCS adapter, first!) You can take a look at this portion of the thread to see the advantages: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/posts/6669498/
  50. Exelion

    CCS Adapter - ?

    From that graph, It looks like SCV3 has a huge advantage over CCS(Max) from •0% to 23% SOC. From 23% SOC to about 37% SOC the SCV3 starts to drop and match the CCS. Then from 37% and up to almost the end, SCV3 and CCS looks to be about the same. That being the case, whats the approximate...

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