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  1. cantdecide

    2013 model S P85 7-seater, Boulder CO

    I believe that depends on the year of the vehicle? i.e. I believe that 2013 is transferable, but for our ~2016 X it was not.
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    2013 model S P85 7-seater, Boulder CO

    Sold! Dealer offer $20,500 which is $22,000 or so after tax benefit
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    2013 model S P85 7-seater, Boulder CO

    Agreed, those are the asking prices, so I'm guessing the typical sale price for private party (with no dents) is probably $25k. Carvana offered $19k (sale, not trade in)... and I'm guessing that is what I'll be offered as a trade in (which would also save about $1500 in tax for us on the new...
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    2013 model S P85 7-seater, Boulder CO

    It is actually the local Jeep dealer... there are very few cars that can be TOADs (vehicles that you tow behind an RV) and indeed the only electric one is the just released Jeep 4xe. Looking at kbb, autotrader... Similar listings are $27k-$35k at dealers and private party for listing price. KBB...
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    2013 model S P85 7-seater, Boulder CO

    Notes: being a 2013 it of course has free unlimited supercharging. I believe with the Tesla extended service agreement (4yr, 50k miles) that should last until about the end of July, or the 100k miles mark, but a buyer should confirm.
  6. cantdecide

    2013 model S P85 7-seater, Boulder CO

    We're selling our 2013 Tesla model S, P85, 7 seater. We need to decide this morning whether to trade it in to a dealer versus sell privately, so time is of the essence. (we are selling because we have a model 3, and we need a toad for our RV and are getting a 4xe delivered today) details: 2013...
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    FS: 20” wheels, Nokian winter tires, TPMS for Tesla X, Colorado

    Sale is pending... expecting completion in 3 weeks.
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    FS: 20” wheels, Nokian winter tires, TPMS for Tesla X, Colorado

    yes! I don't know why I forgot to include those before, so thanks for mentioning... I've added some to the album, but do note they are from 2019 when we still had the model X.
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    FS: 20” wheels, Nokian winter tires, TPMS for Tesla X, Colorado

    Rob, I've finally managed to get photos of the tread (I wasn't able to get them out for a while as our 3 was stuck in the garage due to the snow). I also remeasured the tread depth as I have 2 devices for measuring... converting to 32nds of an inch I get 7,7,8,8 and on the other one 8.4, 8.8...
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    FS: 20” wheels, Nokian winter tires, TPMS for Tesla X, Colorado

    We have completed our lease return on our Tesla model X and are selling our 20” wheels, Nokian Hakkapeliitta tires (with TPMS), i.e. our winter wheel and tire set.Our X used 22” tires in summer and these in winter. We used them for 3 winters for a total of around 12,000 miles. Comes with tire...
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    How to lease return during covid?

    That was the email address I used on June 4th and in May... all I got was an autoreply confirming receipt of the email and they would deal with it shortly. It sounds like you emailed them a month after me, so I guess they actually have someone working again now. I'll ping them on that thread now...
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    Plugging in an RV and Tesla at a campsite

    The RV does already have a 5-15 external but of course that charges slowly. RV energy management is complex and I don't fully understand it as yet. There is an energy management device in there that detects how much energy is being used and if the total surpasses the available then it shuts off...
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    How to lease return during covid?

    Nice. I finally got through with the app, still got 71 miles of range left. I think it might go into low power mode at 20% which is about 55 miles? I might drop by the service center and plug it in.
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    How to lease return during covid?

    This is now getting rather silly. At the end of May I returned the car to the service center (left it locked in the car park with a full battery) and sent tesla finance an email as such. It is now 2 months later. Still no contact from Tesla about returning the car, or acknowledgement that I...
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    Plugging in an RV and Tesla at a campsite

    Our RV has a ~4kW battery and ~180watts of solar, so is similar to yours. Unfortunately I believe our converter is broken as the battery will only charge from the solar, not shore power or the alternator right now. The issue for us has been the AC taking up continuous 10 Amps at 110 volts. When...
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    Plugging in an RV and Tesla at a campsite

    Yep, the generic power adapters don't limit current but the Tesla ones do. I believe the EVSE adapters also do. I think their issue is not the breakers on the individual circuits, but a larger breaker that goes across a section of the campsite. Essentially the section of the campsite will have...
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    Plugging in an RV and Tesla at a campsite

    We are considering travelling around the country with our RV (30 Amp) and a Tesla (either our 3 or our 2013 S). We'd like to be able to go to a campsite and plug both in... get the power we need in the RV and charge the Tesla as well as we can. I'm trying to figure out the best way to do this...
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    Supercharger - Evanston WY

    Yeah they told us we had to drive to flying j. I think it was likely a miscommunication if their covid policy. I would expect it is part of the Tesla agreement that charging users get to use the restroom.
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    Supercharger - Evanston WY

    Just a quick update... The hotel is no longer allowing Tesla supercharger users to use the restrooms or the wifi. Hotel guests can still use the restrooms and wifi.
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    How to lease return during covid?

    I did try that method. The service advisor did call, and he told me to email the email address I've already been emailing. At least he offered to email them himself in case he gets more response than I did. It is also good that I have a solid paper trail that I tried to return the car. If I...
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    How to lease return during covid?

    Apparently Tesla isn't the only car company refusing to take lease returns right now: Auto dealers accused of not taking back expired auto leases; Attorney General Becerra demands answers
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    How to lease return during covid?

    My lease return is due in one week. Tesla's website says they will contact me 30-60 days before the scheduled lease return. They still haven't contacted me. Calling Tesla finance results in a recorded message that they don't answer the phone anymore and I need to email them. Tesla finance...
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    Will the Cybertruck Float?

    And therefore we can conclude it is made of wood, and that means it must be a witch!
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    Tesla unplugged usb stick right before $20k hit and run :(

    That new feature might only work when you have a usb plugged in Looks like I was on 2020.4.1 I will see if I can find someone at Tesla to call.
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    Tesla unplugged usb stick right before $20k hit and run :(

    Good idea, maybe that would work
  26. cantdecide

    Tesla unplugged usb stick right before $20k hit and run :(

    I just got my MCU upgrade service on my model 3 this week. Yay! Unfortunately during that time Tesla unplugged my usb stick, and didn't plug it back in. Last night someone did a big hit and run on my car which was parked on the street... axle broken (front wheels pointed inwards), bunch of...
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    Road Trip - Should I Question My Sanity?

    Having done Sally lake City to Denver several times each way including a month ago I do prefer the grand junction route over the winning route. Both are beautiful but the Wyoming route is similar to other parts of the trip. The Wyoming route has longer distances between superchargers and if you...
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    New Service & Sales Center: Superior, CO

    I drive by almost weekly on my way to other places... Still no significant movement for months (since Tesla announced in March that it would open by May). I did see on Sunday a new pole of broken (pulled up) road surface in one corner of the lot (you can just see it in the photo above taken on...
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    4 kids: Minivan -> X...?

    We had a Honda Odyssey, then in 2013 we bought a rwd model S 7 seater. We found them to have the same capacity when carrying 7 people. Then we ended up getting a succession of model X's and found they had no more capacity than the S. The only advantage of the X for this purpose was if all of...
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    Tesla lease buyout - crazy penalty or error?

    The Tesla finance method for early lease termination is that you pay the difference between the current buy out value and the Tesla trade in value. In our case that was going to be $20k to$30k so we just kept the car
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    Installing the official Tesla model 3 roof rack

    I don't have an email from Tesla or Yakima... I had an earlier batch of the roofracks, so I'm guessing it is just one batch that is being replaced?
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    P100DL with the lot price reduced (for new) $25k in 18 months?

    Thanks, I had the feeling that these are included now. This would be ideal... however in this case it already is a lease transfer from someone else (I found it on TMC) and at the time I don't think Tesla allowed a second lease transfer of the same car. The previous leasee paid a big...
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    P100DL with the lot price reduced (for new) $25k in 18 months?

    Is it true that the price of a new model X P100DL with everything (premium, premium sound, subzero, 6 seat, tow package, 22" wheels, FSD) was $167,500 and is now $142,500 or am I missing something? I have such a leased vehicle and I'm looking to get rid of it (halfway through the lease, we have...
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    Installing the official Tesla model 3 roof rack

    Sorry to chime in late... I did buy a torque wrench specifically to install these. For three of them it reached 8nm without cracking and I stopped there. For one of them I heard a bit of cracking before 8nm and stopped there. I've done about 50 miles of driving with the SkyBox 21 on top, but...
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    Fraudsters registering Teslas for state rebates with bouncing checks?

    Tesla finance is dealing with it for me for now... I'll update if I hear anything again but I'm guessing in this particular case Tesla+DMV will sort it out.
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    Fraudsters registering Teslas for state rebates with bouncing checks?

    Has anyone else seen any evidence of fraudsters registering cars with state DMVs (with bouncing checks) in order to get state and other local rebates? I live in Colorado and have a model X that I have registered in Colorado (I have no relationship with CA DMV for a few years). However I...
  37. cantdecide

    Is my cost of ownership realistic?

    Technically yes... Depreciation should count instead of counting the principle portion of the loan, however for the first few years this should be about equal. My instinct is that maintenance will be less than you have accounted for the first few years, and depreciation/loan will average out...
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    Installing the official Tesla model 3 roof rack

    Thanks. For our S the box seemed to add about 50wh/m to the energy usage and I expect similar here (for the roof rack + box). We've driven the S with the box on top from California to Colorado, back to California and back to Colorado. Of course for the S that means about a 15% increase in energy...
  39. cantdecide

    Model 3 Roof Rack Options

    I've just posted a thread with full details Installing the official Tesla model 3 roof rack but the tl:dr; is that on my car with the fit and finish on my car... some of the installation steps were just about impossible without a lot of force and my own tools. If only it were as easy as the...
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    Installing the official Tesla model 3 roof rack

    I just completed installation of our model 3 roof rack. There are several difficult parts so I feel the installation issues deserve their own thread. tl:dr; This is a difficult installation, for us about 10x as difficult as installing the official model S roof racks. I suspect the main culprit...
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    Model 3 Roof Rack Options

    I just completed installation, but due to the difficulty of the installation at several stages I think the installation process is worthy of its own thread, so starting another thread now on the installation...
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    Is Model X good for 2 young kids?

    As an owner of a model S and a model X I'm going to be contrarian and suggest the model S is better for this situation. We bought our model S in 2013 when our kids were 1 and 3 and we bought our first model X as a signature model X when they came out. We still have our 2013 S p85 7 seater and...
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    Where do I start.

    I expect the supercharger network will continue to expand quite rapidly. Sure it will expand faster in California where there are a huge number of Teslas... But I expect them to also add new routes also both for existing owners to travel and to get new sales. Supercharge.info is a good place to...
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    Depreciation on Model S is Horrible

    I think as many have pointed out you shouldn't count the $7.5k federal rebate or the low ball offer value as depreciation. I've gotten $10k more than Tesla offers for trade in. That probably takes your 36% depreciation and turns it into 18% actual depreciation. My role of thumb for any car...
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    Tesla Roof Rack!

    Back in stock! (the Tesla official one) Just ordered one.
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    Would you recommend Hitch-Mount Cargo Carrier for MX?

    We have the largest stowaway model. We have probably driven 3000 miles over the country with it. With 6 of us going skiing we put all boots, poles and helmets in the box along with kids skis. Adult skis go in the car (6 seater). I wish there was a ski rack you could attach to the box. For...
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    RWD 1st Snow Driving Experience with All Season Tires

    I drove our AWD with all seasons after our 12" snow fall (to the tire place where they finally had my winter tires that I ordered a month before). The all seasons skipped a little but the nokians are much better. Unfortunately the tire place put our new snow tires and wheels onto the wrong...
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    Blog Tesla to Reduce Interior Options for Model S and Model X

    6 seat is elon's favorite, and it's likely the most popular, it should stay. 7 is the most complex and had some complaints while 5 is rare.
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    22" Wheels on Model S for driveway Clearance. Good Idea?

    I don't think the 22 inch wheels have tires that are significantly higher diameter, hence I don't think they will increase clearance.

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