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  1. M

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    I'm in the UK so feel like it could easily be 12-18 months before I get a car if at all. Thought I would ask this anyway though. With the recent policy change to allow people to change their order and the keep the price from the time of their order, does this include the ability to change from...
  2. M

    Intelligent Octopus

    Someone contacted me about it on Sunday then disappeared. I suspect what will happen is that they will put out another update and it will be fixed before I can actually discuss it with anyone
  3. M

    Intelligent Octopus

    That option has gone too. It still seems to be controlling the car charging at night, but all reference to it in the app is gone.
  4. M

    Intelligent Octopus

    I have been on to Octopus who have asked me to do all the usual things such as update the app and my phone, delete and reload the app and the Tesla app. Nothing has helped. I think it is a bug from the app update released on Friday. Mine is doing the same in that today it stopped charging a...
  5. M

    Intelligent Octopus

    Has anyone else had the Devices tab disappear in their Octopus app? Has to been there since Friday for me, when I think they updated the app. I cannot see if I am getting any extra charging slots over and above the 1130-530 slot. Also the car just stopped rated to charge the last time I...
  6. M

    Buying a Used X direct from Tesla UK

    Hi, Better posting in the UK forum.Maybe mods can move this. I haven't bought anything used from Tesla, but their customer service can be poor and confusing.
  7. M

    BMW iX Overpriced in the UK?

    That’s a good point that probably helps reduce depreciation on a Tesla. On a BMW most of the options will lose most of their value when you come to sell it. On the other hand you won’t get a discount on a Tesla. I tend to do a simple calculation of what the net loss in value would be over 3-4...
  8. M

    BMW iX Overpriced in the UK?

    I do wonder how much this saves Tesla and if it is meaningful why other companies don't do it. In general it does Tesla buyers a favour as Teslas come with a lot of things which seem to be options in other cars such as electric seats, glass roofs etc. Although some other things are missing. The...
  9. M

    BMW iX Overpriced in the UK?

    The Taycan vs i4 M50 review in Autocar today made me check the i4's price in the USA. The i4 price does not seem crazy in the UK to me. The i4 M50 lists at $65900, add VAT and convert into GBP and you get £58,600. The list price here is £63,905. Metallic is free here, $550 in the US. The...
  10. M

    BMW iX Overpriced in the UK?

    As many comments coming now are about interior quality. Although the design of the iX was nice inside, the standard leather was very rough and the plastics much lower quality than in my Model X. Also the headliner was no where near as nice as the alcantara.
  11. M

    BMW iX Overpriced in the UK?

    I don’t understand people being attached to any one brand. I have just bought whatever car I liked/suited my needs at the time. From memory- Citroen, Nissan, Audi, Audi, BMW, BMW, Porsche, Range Rover, Tesla The only slight bias I would have is that the local Audi dealership are arrogant and...
  12. M

    BMW iX Overpriced in the UK?

    TBF this has not been the case for a while especially with the weaker pound in the last few years. Give or take, list prices are similar in the UK and Europe. The US is still often cheaper, but even then not always. The Taycan is cheaper here than the US, after accounting for taxes. The thing...
  13. M

    BMW iX Overpriced in the UK?

    Actually considering it, the other thing that car reviewers seem to put little weight on is practicality. In general the Model X is not one of the best reviewed cars by motoring journalists. However, it is one of the most practical cars that you can buy. This seems to be of very little...
  14. M

    BMW iX Overpriced in the UK?

    I did exactly that adding VAT and tariffs where necessary to get to UK prices. One of the issues is that the iX is being sold at more of a premium in the UK to its US price than other cars. They do indeed, I am sure it is a very nice car. But I always worry that reviews, where people are...
  15. M

    BMW iX Overpriced in the UK?

    I actually thought the i4 wasn't too bad. Looks about 7-8k more than the same spec of Model 3 and it may feel like a more expensive car. But for the iX 50, performance and space are closer to a Model Y LR, which is almost 40k cheaper, than a Model X LR. I would think that the BMW feels a more...
  16. M

    BMW iX Overpriced in the UK?

    That’s definitely true of ICE vehicles. (Although current discounts are much smaller than normal due to shortages, more like 5-10%) When you compare the price of an ICE Vehicle to a Tesla you should take into account discounts and not the list price. But there are no discounts on the iX at...
  17. M

    BMW iX Overpriced in the UK?

    With frustration over the wait for a new Model X and now the possibility of no 7 seater being available in the Plaid, there is a cancelled order BMW iX going very cheap at the moment. So I went along to the local BMW dealer to have a look. The interior design is very nice to look at but to me...
  18. M

    Edinburgh central charging options?

    It is a lovely car park, nice wide spaces, well lit etc. The Omni Centre is awful, some of the turns are so tight that I need to do a 3 point turn to get around in my X.
  19. M

    Edinburgh central charging options?

    The new St. James Quarter has 45 type 2 chargers in the car park. Despite it opening a few weeks ago, however, they have not switched them on yet. They are all sitting there ready, so I would think it is imminent but I cannot find a date.
  20. M

    Model S Plaid Insurance

    Hello New Zealand. It’s a lovely place. We basically have the same system although they now have 50 groups with a letter added depending on whether the car has good security. This was supposed to increase the range of groupings, but a large number of cars are in group 50 including my Model X...
  21. M

    LV hiking insurance prices?

    Having used Admiral multiyear for quite a few years I just changed to Churchill who were substantially cheaper than my quoted renewal. £365 on a 2017 Model X 75 D with £35 cash back. Very pleased.
  22. M

    Model X depreciation vs wait for Model Y

    You were spot on there as the LRs have gone up $5k today. I guess the UK price looks more correct now. I might place a Model X order in case they try putting the price up here. I had thought it would actually fall over the next couple of years and there is a chance that we do a trade deal with...
  23. M

    Model X depreciation vs wait for Model Y

    You are absolutely right, I usually do a spreadsheet of alternatives then buy the car I wanted anyway. It is just nice to know that the decision is not crazy. I think though the issue here is that the car I want is not a 5 year old Model X and Tesla have created quite an annoying situation. I...
  24. M

    Model X depreciation vs wait for Model Y

    Certainly if using the 7 seats it is not (I know there is now a 7 seat Y option but they look very tight). We used to do a carpool with neighbours and use them every day, but they have moved. I would still much rather have an X but I could make do with a Y if it was available. It looks like it...
  25. M

    Model X depreciation vs wait for Model Y

    Tesla used to avoid a 10% tariff by doing final assembly in Tilburg, but they have now stopped this. On top of that the pound has weakened since the X was introduced, however they have not cut the price after the recent rebound. The X LR should probably be priced at around £85k today (£5k above...
  26. M

    Model X depreciation vs wait for Model Y

    I have a 75D which is currently valued at 55k by Webuyanycar. Could probably get a bit more for it but I use that as a benchmark value. This is more than it was worth a year ago. I am suspicious that when it is five years old and a new Model X is available that it will drop to around 40% of the...
  27. M

    Model X depreciation vs wait for Model Y

    Moderator comment - posts moved from "Model Y - UK estimated dates and pricing." I see some people speculating the Model Y RHD might come from China around the end of this year. I am still totally torn as to how to replace my X at year end when the PCP runs out. My wife is pretty insistent...
  28. M

    Model S Plaid Insurance

    I have a 911 which was over 100k new, although not as fast as a Model S Plaid. It costs a lot less than my Model X to insure, about 1/3 of the price. I think that "proper" sports cars do quite low mileages and tend to be well looked after so are cheapish to insure relative to their value...
  29. M

    Model S Plaid Insurance

    Considering all the threads re insurance costs for the M3P. Can't wait to see the first quotes for the Model S Plaid. Historically high prices have limited the number of extremely fast cars on the road. There are a few cars in the US with similar top speed, slower accelerating still, that cost...
  30. M

    Anyone comparing the e-tron GT to the Model S

    I don't know what the average use on the site is, but I have never once used a supercharger for a long trip. In the last 10 years, the furthest I have driven in a day is 150 miles. If you make a lot of long trips I would say superchargers are a big benefit, but the average UK driver doesn't...
  31. M

    Anyone comparing the e-tron GT to the Model S

    I am in the same boat, I find it increasingly hard not to drive something electric, it just feels nicer. However, my 911 is a cabriolet, if there was an electric cabriolet available I would be all over that. Glad you agree with me re the weight of the Taycan. I am just going on many reviews...
  32. M

    Anyone comparing the e-tron GT to the Model S

    Needs serviced every two years or 18,000 miles. Standard for most German cars. A lot of people would only need one service during their ownership of the car. Despite not officially needing a service I had my Model X looked at last year and they did a brake clean. I was not comfortable with the...
  33. M

    Anyone comparing the e-tron GT to the Model S

    I drive a Model X (and a 911). I test drove a Taycan 4S last year considering it versus my 911. I decided that nice car as it was, it still is a very heavy car and despite what the press says felt nothing like the 911 to drive to me. It also needed options that would bring the price up to...
  34. M

    WARNING against Michelin Cross Climate+ Tires

    Sorry I just saw this I have Crossclimate SUVs. My car has 255/45W20 on the front. They are 105W rated versus 105Y rated for the original Latitude Sport 3 acoustics. That is an ample top speed rating of 168mph The rears are 275/45Y20 so the same 110Y rating as the OEM tyres. I checked the...
  35. M

    Lights going Yellow to replace $8,000

    Is it just the polycarbonate front covers? My brother's old Nissan had this at 8 or 9 years old. I bought a kit from Amazon for a few pounds and fixed it. You get a paste like toothpaste that you rub onto the light and then buff off. Indeed I have read tat you can use toothpaste to fix the...
  36. M

    Model X -> PHEV : Regrettably after 4 years

    The leasing site seems to have the wrong weight. The X5 is 2510kg according to the BMW site which does surprisingly make it a little heavier than a Model X. This car seems to be the best reviewed of the similar sized hybrid EVs at the moment. I must admit that with the delay to the new Model X...
  37. M

    What happens if your Model S or X lease/PCP runs out during 2021?

    I have been excitedly waiting for the Model X refresh as my current PCP runs out in December. At 1.9% APR it was a no brainer at the time. Ignoring thoughts re the refresh, UK delivery is listed as 2022. Presumably quite a few people will have their Model S or X due to go back this year with no...
  38. M

    Warning! New Brake Pads and Discs after 13,000 miles

    It was Edinburgh. They are normally very good and didn't push it. Just before I sold my RR Sport I had the same discussion with the dealer re brakes. They were a bit more specific about when they would need replaced. I tried to make them last until I sold it, but ended up having to replace...
  39. M

    Are Tesla cars a good investment?

    A Model 3 LR costs £47,000 currently. Changing the question to is it a good idea/deal. You would expect to lose 40-50% of that over 3 years. So £19-23,000. So if you bought one and kept if for 3 years it would cost roughly £7,000 a year in depreciation (I cross referenced leasing costs which...
  40. M

    Warning! New Brake Pads and Discs after 13,000 miles

    Spoke to the service centre today when I paid the bill. Asked what the issue was with the brakes. They said that when they took off the pads and discs to clean them they could see that they were worn so "suggested" replacing them. But it was only a suggestion. Seemed very vague to me. I would...
  41. M

    Warning! New Brake Pads and Discs after 13,000 miles

    I will ask them on Monday when they call to get payment for the brake clean. We picked up the car from sales this morning as it was ready too late yesterday. I didn't let them replace the brake pads and discs, it would be half that price elsewhere if they needed done. There was nothing wrong...
  42. M

    Warning! New Brake Pads and Discs after 13,000 miles

    Yes, I asked why would a EV with regenerative braking need new brakes at such a low mileage. He just responded that it was only a recommendation and didn't have to be done.
  43. M

    Warning! New Brake Pads and Discs after 13,000 miles

    My Model X is due its MOT, so I took it in for a service and to get the yellow line fixed on the screen. I asked what they do for service and they said they would just check the car over and see if anything was needed. They told me they needed to do a brake strip and clean at £113. Fair...
  44. M

    Edinburgh MOT options - can you recommend a garage

    The Service Centre texted me to say that they do not carry out MOTs and I need to get it done myself at a third party garage. They also didn't give me any service options or prices, just said that the car is booked in for 1 day. Typical Tesla service in that they don't organise MOTs or even...
  45. M

    WARNING against Michelin Cross Climate+ Tires

    I have 4x Crossclimates on my Model X. I have the 20inch wheels. There are no weird handling issues. Frankly the original title on this thread is highly misleading. It is clearly due to mixing very different tyres on the car and not a problem with Crossclimates. Warning against mixing tyres...
  46. M

    Edinburgh MOT options - can you recommend a garage

    Should I understand from this thread that the service centre don't do MOTs? I just sent a message to Edinburgh to book my car in for an MOT and service. I know there is no fixed service schedule but I feel the car should be looked over as it is 2 years since it was serviced (when there was a...
  47. M

    Voice control is pants

    I thought it was working better but it quickly deteriorated. I do find that I have to shout at it for any chance of it working. Otherwise it doesn't seem to register anything. Then I got 2020.20.17 and since then I have had two microphone currently unavailable messages. I also hate that it...
  48. M

    Voice control is pants

    Upgraded to 2020.20.1 this week and finally voice control seems to be working again :)
  49. M

    Voice control is pants

    I don't see how it can be accents etc when it worked absolutely fine before the new commands were introduced. There seems to be some other change somewhere. I thought it may be an MCU1 issue, but quite a lot of the complaints are from Model 3 owners also. There has been the suggestion that it is...
  50. M

    Voice control is pants

    This is really starting to get me down. I keep hoping for an update to fix it, but on 2020.12.5 and it is no better. I thought that it was maybe the 4G signal that was the issue as it sometimes seemed better in the garage on WiFi. With a bit of playing around, however, I think the reason it...

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