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  1. CWhite

    FSD Beta 10.12

    Wow, mine is also loading now. Can’t wait to see if it is a great improvement (which some report) or a train wreck (which others have reported). I guess it just shows how complex the software is that so many people are getting totally different results. In the old days a software bug would...
  2. CWhite

    Yoke Steering

    I had a look at it, if you watch, his hands never leave the wheel. A bit over 180° of movement. This seems to show the yoke would be fine. Also proves the point that cranking in 180° of steering input at 40 mph gives you pretty dramatic direction change. At 60 mph it be a classic example of...
  3. CWhite

    Autonomous Car Progress

    As it was explained to me: if you are outside on a public street or sidewalk you “have no reasonable expectation of privacy “. That is why dashcams are OK.
  4. CWhite

    Autonomous Car Progress

    These little guys have been delivering food at my daughter university for about 2 years. They stick to the sidewalk, move a bit faster than walking and has a limited service range but she says it’s cute to watch them maneuver around people. How they kept folks fed when the cafeterias were...
  5. CWhite

    FSD or Solar

    I also have solar(and a Powerwall (wish I had gotten two)) and FSD. Pick solar, you will get your money back. FSD is interesting but not the same as something you benefit from on a daily basis.
  6. CWhite

    FSD Beta 10.11

    Ummm, you do know that $1000 in Apple at IPO would get you less than $500,000 today. Same about for Microsoft’s IPO would get you $1,600,000. No comparison between Jobs and Gate’s personalities but hard to argue about the results.
  7. CWhite

    Wiki MASTER THREAD: Actual FSD Beta downloads and experiences

    Wondering if anyone else has noticed this. Driving down a 4 lane/45mph large, well marked street. Over a mile from an navigation planned right turn, in the right lane. Several times the left turn signal ‘blipped’ not even one full blink. Never had that before, I am on FSD 10.11.2
  8. CWhite

    10.9 FSD

    A full rewrite means doing the code again for things like ‘this is a yellow line’ , can’t believe they are doing that. A lot is changing, to be sure, but code branches that are working fine should be ported over.
  9. CWhite

    10.9 FSD

    I really hope not. I use to be able to go from WA to CA on I-5 using basic Auto Pilot with nary and intervention or phantom braking. I fully expect freeway driving to get worse going to single stack given my experiences with FSD Beta. 11 isn’t a full rewrite, it is merging FSD functions into...
  10. CWhite

    Supercharger - Davis, CA (LIVE 19 Jan 2021, 16 V3 stalls)

    You want off-topic. My sister went to UC Davis in the late 60’s. I remember when we drove down to visit from Mt Shasta the one thing she begged for was for us to stop at the roadside spring in Dunsmuir (it’s still there) and fill up all the containers we could with water. I had not gotten...
  11. CWhite

    Winter tire recommendations

    X-Ice Snow comes in 255/45R19. I went from Blizzak’s to these and I actually like these better. Another great choice is the Nokian Hakka’s R3, they also come in this size. I am hoping you are looking to go to 19’s wheel/tire for winter. I’ve lost several 20-21 wheels to hidden winter...
  12. CWhite

    Winter tire recommendations

    My sister has the CrossClimate2’s and they do work very well in snow. Still be careful on ice, I have Michelin X-Ice Snow’s and they work quite a bit better on bare ice. Nordic tires like Nokian, Blizzak, X-Ice , etc come close to studs without the drawbacks. But they will destroy themselves...
  13. CWhite

    Plaid showing range as ideal ? (And no setting for ideal/rated)

    EPA also accounts for charging losses in the kWh per 100 mile figure. The 396 is as a lower speed than we all drive in the freeway. I took a long drive to Southern Oregon keeping on the 55mph back roads rather than the 75mph I-5. Going from 100% to 8% I traveled 365 miles, pretty close to the...
  14. CWhite

    Model S Plaid Brakes Are Terrible!

    Oooohhh, Laguna Seca. One of my strongest memories is from the 70’s when I was racing my faithful Z-1 Kawasaki. First time dropping into the corkscrew, like stepping thru the elevator doors and finding the car wasn’t there. Brilliant track: bike, car, shifter-cart, doesn’t matter.
  15. CWhite

    10.8 FSD

    I’m confused, if you don’t like the auto lane change change the settings. I usually have it off or where I have to confirm the lane change. Seems pretty customizable to me
  16. CWhite

    Legacy v11

    I suppose it may better in warmer climates but up here we press the heated seats and defrost buttons many times each trip. It is just annoying having double the presses. Never thought about accidentally turning on the seat heater, only had the car two years but never hit them by accident...
  17. CWhite

    10.8 FSD

    On the subject of buttons you need quickly I remember the best button placement ever was is a 2010-11 BMW X5. The recirculate button was on the steering wheel right under your right thumb. We have a lot of depressed skunks that tend to jump in front of cars. Need a live microphone that...
  18. CWhite

    10.8 FSD

    Classic glass half empty/full One persons view: it is only one extra press Me: it doubles the number of presses Both are correct 🤓
  19. CWhite

    Legacy v11

    I am most annoyed with loosing the climate controls along the bottom. Really??? Navigate to a screen to turn the seat heat on or turn on the defroster, then go back into the screen to turn the seat down in a few minutes. Voice commands just don’t cut it , by the time you say the command you can...
  20. CWhite

    10.8 FSD

    I also have no trouble reading V11 on my vertical screen but it is very annoying not having the climate buttons along the bottom. Buttons you access multiple times per drive should not require navigation, just a press. My wife is even more annoyed by the change. Voice commands may work but a...
  21. CWhite

    10.8 FSD

    This is hilarious, Apple spends $500 billion to get a controlling interest in Tesla. How much money has Tesla spend to get to this point? a fraction(small fraction) of that. Apple could spend 10% of that and end up with just as much manufacturing facilities as Tesla in 5 years. Lucid has...
  22. CWhite

    Tire Storage

    I bought my wheels/X-Ice Snow’s from Discount Tire. They swap them for free (but don’t store them). There are a ton of these shops in Seattle. The ones I have gone to here in the Portland area knows Teslas and they all had the lift point pucks. They matched Tirerack prices.
  23. CWhite

    10.8 FSD

    You have FSD Beta and still getting a safety score? That doesn’t sound right, I kept my score up for a while and then got the FSD Beta download about two months ago, have not seen safety score since
  24. CWhite

    Wiki MASTER THREAD: Actual FSD Beta downloads and experiences

    I’m in a 2020 Model S LR+ so I have not gotten 10.8 nor V11
  25. CWhite

    Wiki MASTER THREAD: Actual FSD Beta downloads and experiences

    Anyone else see this behavior? Have noticed that when not on AP or FSD the ‘Lane Departure Avoidance’ does not see to work anymore (Assume since I got FSD Beta). If I let the car drift it use to correct and chime. Now it does neither.
  26. CWhite

    Yoke replacement

    Have you ever had a deer actually jump out in front of you? If you are going any kind of speed if you crank in 1/2 turn of steering input you are going off the road. At 60mph a 1/4 turn is very violent. Go out when no one is around and try it. You should always hit the brakes first then...
  27. CWhite

    10.8 FSD

    I know it’s not out but only because 2021.44.25.5 is not out(and we know 10.8 is in this release). It just sounded like MP3Mike had seen an FSD version tracker on TeslaFi that I had never seen.
  28. CWhite

    10.8 FSD

    I thought you were saying that TeslaFi specifically called out that FSD 10.8 was (or was not) rolling out. Never seen that on their site.
  29. CWhite

    10.8 FSD

    Where on TeslaFi has it showed the FSD version. It just shows the overall version like 2021.44.25.2 (which may or may not have a new FSD version wrapped up in it)
  30. CWhite

    10.8 FSD

    Teslascope shows 2 whole cars on 2021.44.25.5 which should be 10.8. Nothing on TeslaFi.
  31. CWhite

    10.8 FSD

    You folks have it all wrong, Tesla uses an algorithm to tell us what version of FSD we have by looking at the software version 2021.36.8.10 for example, If the last digit is even then you take the last two digit as the version (10 in this case) the subversion is derived by looking one digit...
  32. CWhite

    10.8 FSD

    I remember my dad getting a color TV, neighbors were coming over to see it. I also remember going with him to the RCA store with a padded box of vacuum tubes to run thru their tube tester. I’m pretty old but it is shocking how far we have advanced. My dad had a TV remote that was not IR or...
  33. CWhite

    Wiki MASTER THREAD: Actual FSD Beta downloads and experiences

    Me too, but I am not waiting, I’m installing it now 😋. 30% and counting
  34. CWhite

    Wiki MASTER THREAD: Actual FSD Beta downloads and experiences

    Curious if other folks have seen this. We have quite a few right turns that have a bike lane where they made it wider and had a dashed line area where you can cross over the bike lane. FSD does not know what to do, it does not even attempt to use the dashed line are and often goes far enough...
  35. CWhite

    Wiki MASTER THREAD: Actual FSD Beta downloads and experiences

    10.6 seems better on my unstriped 25mph neighborhood streets about not going down the middle of the street. Stays on the correct side just as I would whether there is traffic or not. Was only able to 20 minutes worth of drives but I had no slowdowns or BWR’s. (Braking Without Reason, I am...
  36. CWhite

    Wiki MASTER THREAD: Actual FSD Beta downloads and experiences

    WooHoo, 2021.36.8.9 is downloading to my car as I type this. Just in time for my Sunday morning doughnut run.
  37. CWhite

    Tempest Wheel Covers Range

    I did back-to-back 280 mile trips down I-5 over 2 weekends, one with the covers and the other without. I got to my destination with 22 miles more range with the covers. Conditions were very close to the same as was the speed/traffic. At 65-70mph every bit of aero helps. Similar 200 mile...
  38. CWhite

    Wiki MASTER THREAD: Actual FSD Beta downloads and experiences

    Noticing some definite limitation in FSD ‘reading’ signs. It keeps wanting to turn right and going into the freeway entrance only marked lane rather than staying in the lane that will take it over the freeway as the nav system is guiding it. also does not seem to notice the ‘no turn on red’...
  39. CWhite

    Winter tire questions regarding tesla 2021 Model S with 21' Arachnid tires

    For a 245/45-19 you can go 8” to 9” width, 8.5” would be fine.
  40. CWhite

    Wiki MASTER THREAD: Actual FSD Beta downloads and experiences

    Me three, doesn’t seem to be that large 240MB, tiny compared to the 20GB it’s been uploading from the ‘bug button’.
  41. CWhite

    Wiki MASTER THREAD: Actual FSD Beta downloads and experiences

    Must be a southern Oregon thing. I have a 2020 Model S, 36.8.5, premium connectivity and the latest IOS app. No option to view listed in security menu. But I did get 10.4 so heading out for a drive.
  42. CWhite

    Winter tire questions regarding tesla 2021 Model S with 21' Arachnid tires

    Medford has a Discount Tire where I got an extra set of wheels and winter tires. In K Falls I would recommend full on ice tires like a Nokian studless. Performance winter tires are OK in the snow but do not handle ice nearly as well. You do need the 4 lift pucks (Amazon) but the three...
  43. CWhite

    Model S Plaid Brakes Are Terrible!

    Ummm, so track mode somehow solves the brakes overheating and fading. Traction and stability systems increase your stopping distance???
  44. CWhite

    Wiki MASTER THREAD: Actual FSD Beta downloads and experiences

    I wonder about the need for 16 sensors, 12 cameras, 2 lidars…. I self-drive pretty well with only 2 cameras(eyes) and one heck of a computer. Would make someone think that the solution could be almost totally on the computing power side of the equation. Of course we could still be 10 years...
  45. CWhite

    Tesla’s FSD Beta 10.3 Coming This Friday 10-22-2021

    Considering NHTSA says a person dies every 15 minutes in a car accident it certainly indicates that Teslas are pretty safe. Stats show something like an accident every 60 seconds in the US.
  46. CWhite

    Tesla’s FSD Beta 10.3 Coming This Friday 10-22-2021

    I am confused, are people having accidents while using autopilot and keeping it a secret? Sure sounds like that is what is being suggested. I have seen plenty of stats showing # of miles driven per accident of all brands of cars. Are Tesla drivers so “loyal” that they won’t report anything...
  47. CWhite

    Model S Plaid Brakes Are Terrible!

    So if you stand on the brakes driving at 70mph on a dry road the ABS won’t engage? I have never had that happen in the few times I have done it. Granted my 2020 S LR+ is not a plaid but it can’t really have better brakes. I understand fading due to heat from track work but don’t see how they...
  48. CWhite

    Pacific Northwest Owners (Seattle, Portland, or towns/cities in the region)

    Oh man, I got bored and stopped reading on page 1255. 😏. Thanks for the info
  49. CWhite

    Pacific Northwest Owners (Seattle, Portland, or towns/cities in the region)

    I did not see anything calling out the dropping of the 200,000 per manufacturer limit or if there is a new limit. Anyone see that in the bill?
  50. CWhite

    Supercharging speed collection

    Your model is in your signature block??? Invisotext? I only see your disco-parrot and that you are from S Calif

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