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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Good thing this didn't crash TSLA. Keywords: Tesla fire car crash. https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/crews-respond-to-100-acre-fire-east-of-livermore/ Absolutely nothing to do with Tesla, Inc.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    This is good for a laugh (or a cry): YouTuber's Gutted Tesla Model S Plaid Brakes Fail, Hits the Tire Wall at Over 160 MPH A YouTuber shared the moment his car’s freshly installed carbon-ceramic brakes failed at over 160 mph (257 kph). The Model S Plaid stops abruptly in the track’s tire...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound? The people who can most accurately comment on Tesla's FSD progress are those testing it in the real world. There are lots of those people. Many are unqualified to offer any kind of opinion because they understand little about how to accurately...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    No, what matters is the constant posting of BS here when we should know better. Apple pioneered short seller FUD. And I'll point out that you are continuing to post stuff that is wrong. Apple didn't lose the lawsuit. They settled. But I guess you'll argue that you "don't think it remotely...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    No. After all the garbage The Verge reports on Tesla, why would you present any of their reporting as evidence of any kind? But, in any case the statement was "Apple had a hardware defect in one of their phones where it was crashing and they "Fixed" it by throttling the CPU sooner and there...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Your "recall" is simply a memory of Apple FUD. While you may know enough about Tesla to see FUD and recognize it, with Apple you just eat it up like all the other ignorati. Go ahead, try to produce anything real to justify that description of events, if you want to waste the time. And that...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    This is good: Amazon, Tesla among firms whose employees don’t feel mental health support T-Mobile topped the list with 97% of employees saying the company doesn’t try to help ease anxiety, stress and other mental health issues. The firm was followed by Tesla Motors (85%), ... I doubt they...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    What? You imagine Elon would be struck dumb when you bellowed "Get off my lawn!"?
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    Supercharger - North Platte, NE

    @Chuq @MarcoRP
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Why? Tesla wasn't speculating in BTC, they were moving cash to another form. The relentless grind that makes USD tend towards less worth is avoided. Short term volatility of BTC is the down side. It would be utterly irrelevant if it weren't for accounting rules that haven't kept up with the...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    When you start out with patently false beliefs, you can't use logic to get anywhere useful. The cash known as USD has been losing value since forever. Try looking at any random inflation calculator (e.g. Inflation Calculator | Find US Dollar's Value from 1913-2022). How far it's down from its...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Elon was reasonably explicit in his relevant tweet as well: Trading USD for BTC was not an investment, it was moving from one form of cash to another.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The referenced ARSTechnica article points to plenty of evidence. What more do you want?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Anybody seen anything about this key card hack being addressed by Tesla? I've looked around TMC and seen no posts at all. There seem to be indications that the problem appeared in August, 2021. Sure sounds like a software update should fix it...
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    Bitcoin, Cryptocurrency and Blockchain Discussion Thread

    Why not? I presented it because it's the attitude of many cryptocurrency people. They think cryptocurrency is better because it has rules that prevent it (or at least the major ones like Bitcoin) from being inflated away. They equate inflation with fraud upon the populace by the issuers of...
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    Bitcoin, Cryptocurrency and Blockchain Discussion Thread

    Not my money. I don't have any crypto assets. Now if you want to talk about how our money is being stolen, let's talk TSLA, which I can sell for USD. At the current rate of inflation, my TSLA holdings will be worth about 7% less a year from now. That's what some would call "fiat currency...
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    Bitcoin, Cryptocurrency and Blockchain Discussion Thread

    Not sure what you're asking. But look here for a number or two. Value of payment card fraud worldwide 2027 | Statista That says "The value of fraudulent transactions made with payment cards worldwide in 2021 was projected to amount to more than 32 billion U.S. dollars." It's where the money is.
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    Bitcoin, Cryptocurrency and Blockchain Discussion Thread

    If you think $1B is a lot of fraud, you haven't looked at credit cards. The fraud there dwarfs what has happened with crypto.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The only way Google searches can be free is if the entire ecosystem costs almost nothing to operate... /S
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    So much fun to watch Elon geeking out. This isn't even one of the better Everyday Astronaut videos, but it's still great. It's rare to get a serious engineering take on what happens when the sheet hits the fan.🤣
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    This pretending that a split will mean a serious amount of additional employee stock purchases is ridiculous. We have perhaps two additional split shares (2/3 of an original share) being bought by employees who want to max out their purchases. Even if every single Tesla employee maxed out...
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    Elon & Twitter

    I'm not sure what it is that makes people think that Elon suddenly approves of advertising. So far as he's said, it's all a pack of lies. Why would he allow it at all if he's in charge of Twitter? He probably thinks he can make it an appealing enough platform, through technological...
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    Elon & Twitter

    Not that I'm a lawyer, or particularly canny in the art of the takeover. But I'll hazard a guess that Elon's maneuvering is intended to get out of the deal either completely or by negotiating for a lower price. Here's why I think he'll succeed. His tactic is simply to raise issues that...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    My Model 3 just got the FSD Beta! Safety Score still 95. The Model Y is still waiting.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    A car is not a music player. Music is irrelevant to all functions of a vehicle. It is at best a nice to have feature of any environment you happen to be in, and can be easily provided at high quality by simple devices which are personal and don't annoy others.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    As I mentioned in this post, my original 2014 Model S was sold, totaled, salvaged, and presumably exported. The guy I sold it to told me it appeared in his Tesla app for a little while when it was resurrected, showing it being driven around in Kyiv.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Well, it's a nice theory. But in the real world, every iteration means that some tests that used to fail now pass, and some tests that used to pass now fail. Not all unit tests have the same importance, so any score is really determined by how the relevant humans value the test cases. A...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Looking at TeslaFi, there have suddenly been a few hundred updates to the latest FSD Beta 10.12.2 (2022.12.3.20) queued up, way more than the number of people there who have older versions of FSD Beta. So we're finally seeing a large new tranche of people being admitted to the program. I...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    (If there's a better thread for this, please let me know. I looked, but couldn't find anything.) The SEC has finally described how to make a claim on the $40M in fines they extorted from Tesla and Musk over the "funding secured" tweet. Various articles about this appeared yesterday. If you...
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    Monkeypox thread

    Because it's all about relative risk. COVID is dangerous. Relatively speaking, monkeypox is not. This is the last I have to say on the subject. It's not worth my time.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Monkeypox is "not gaining any traction" as a discussion topic. There's a good reason for that. It's just fear-mongering. COVID has all the pandemic bases covered. The chances that a new COVID variant is the "next pandemic" is about ten thousand times greater. Or pick your own big number...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    If Tesla were like "most companies" it wouldn't be worth investing in. You can, by way of drone videos, get some idea of what the innovations are. But you won't get anything about how to achieve a comparable pace of innovation. So, according to Elon, nothing truly important would be revealed...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Drew Baglino "Fireside Chat" at Stanford Energy Solutions Week. Not new, but posted only recently so far as I can tell. He doesn't say much that people here don't already know, but it's good to hear him talk for an extended period. Makes the excuse for solar roof delays that Tesla didn't pay...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Mods are volunteers. Quality/patience/intelligence/rigidity varies greatly. Edit: (Since I'm immediately being misunderstood) Saying that characteristics vary among volunteers is not criticism, it's obvious. We can't expect all mods to be the best mod around.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    People use TA to call at least 500% (made up number) of actual bottoms. And tops. And whatever else you like. They do no better than monkeys with a dartboard. Then they point to the many cases where they were right and crow about them. Mostly, of course, what you get are people using TA to...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Fixed that for you. Macro forces, yeah! People who believe in TA can come up with reasons for everything. No, no it doesn't. You have what you have, not what you might once have had. But I'm sure the pollster took into account that many people would be lying about how much they own. After...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Either the insurance scammers, or kids daring their friends. You'll surely get one or the other. Or both.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It's Breitbart. You know that means it's just lies and misdirection. In this case, so far as I can see from the short glance I gave it, Bill Gates contributed to a wide variety of liberal charities. There was, independently, a stupid petition about a Twitter advertising boycott that a bunch...
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    Elon & Twitter

    If indeed Elon can walk away for $1B for any reason (or simply because he can't get financing at $54.20), he has a fine bargaining position. He can simply say here's your $1B. Then he can buy up 51% of the shares at market price. The current market cap at $36/share is about $30B. When Elon...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Except the report said that the fire started inside the car. The owner said he saw smoke, opened the back door, and then lots of flames. All seems rather odd. Of course it's not as though reports are ever very clear or accurate.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Anybody have any more information on this? Now we're seeing a fire in a 2019 Model 3. I didn't think that ever happened. And no apparent reason. https://bakersfieldnow.com/news/local/tesla-owner-responds-to-car-catching-fire-in-california-city
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    Supercharger - Santa Maria, CA (LIVE 18 May 2022, 20 V3 stalls)

    Charging now! One odd thing is that all the signs say “Tesla Vehicle Charging Only” except for two, which don’t have the “Only”.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Exactly! It's seductive nonsense for the credulous. Not even its proponents will put real money on it. If you like to believe the market (or even just TSLA) is rife with manipulation, then it provides some rationale for why and how it might be going on in the short term. But there's nothing...
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    Elon & Twitter

    Agreed. Useless drivel supported by nothing. My main worry with Elon buying Twitter is that he's taking what was a source of relaxation and amusement and turning it into a job and source of more stress. Even if he can improve it immensely, that seems like a big mistake. At the same time, I...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Ask any engineer what use a fresh out of school new hire with a BS is. They'll tell you that if they're good, it's a reasonable place to start learning how to do the job. Ask them what use somebody like that would be after 15 years of doing something other than engineering and they'll just...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The notion that Elon (or anybody at Tesla) would ever support a bean counter as CEO is absurd. It doesn't matter in the least how wonderful he might be at counting beans. If Tesla ever needs a successor for Elon, it will be an engineer. Zach is doing great at what he's doing, but he's never...
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    Elon & Twitter

    Oh, I think Elon wants truth. He thinks that free speech is the only way to get there. And he's punting on figuring out free speech by just saying it's whatever's legal. Seems to me he's unlikely to end up with anything either good or workable.
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    Elon & Twitter

    Elon thinks big, and he knows that newspapers are not the future. Social media platforms are. So I think this is Elon's play to go one up on Bezos (yet again). It's a competition to have the best and most respected source of public truth. I doubt Bezos even knows there's a battle on yet.

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