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as in... you didn't want to take it off just to put it back on when you step out of the car.... to the outside...?

damn, west coast guys got their butts so tight they can squeeze out glass if you put some sand in there, it was a joke..... but yea I also have beta tested.... for free..... all of your mentioned softwares :D Edit: and by them all, I also called myself a sheep, so take that 👊

You have to summon the shills if you want an actual answer from him on Twitter.

Any recent false promises in any Tweets? I haven't seen any

I think it's more of.... they just don't care lol

Probably fired most of the internal testers since there are now what... 100k sheep that PAY HIM to test the FSDb out in the wild? Guys a genius businessman, nothing like getting people to show up to work for free, and then also one upping it so those people pay him so they can show up to work...

Is the Faux Self Driving Capability cheaper if you pay for the NEAP and then decide that you have more money to waste?

There's only ONE feature that I like about FSD, and it is sure not worth 10k, or not 12k. The visualizer :D Does EAP give you the FSD visualizer (if I had to guess, I would say no)?

They are li*****s. You fill in the blanks :D I can confirm the interior camera on my 2021 MYLR without FSD does nag during AP use.

The guys are on my roof installing the panels as we speak, not from Tesla though. I ended up cancelling Tesla after 3 weeks of radio silence. I felt as I was just wasting my time with them if they couldn't bother to follow up with me. Plus something was just giving me a bad feeling about waiting...

That's fine, then get away with the steering yoke nag. I think at this point the car is supervising me supervising it driving on FSDb more than I supervise it. It doesn't help that I haven't used FSDb in a couple of weeks now due to the annoying raging red arms of "pay attention"... I can't pay...

I advocate for it being optional. I appreciate a freedom of choice. I should not be penalized into something because of people who suck. Sucky people will continue to suck and find ways to exploit safety features. Just like someone mentioned breathalyzers earlier…. Tons of people get someone...

Would be nice if Tesla had a legitimate portal for this stuff. Not just aimlessly pressing a button and hoping they know what you’re reporting and why, or whether they will even look at your report.

Interesting that they want eye tracking for people who are using assistance features but people driving reckless manually could be drunk/tired/on the phone/getting road dome and it’s all good.

Yes, it’s a 2021 refresh MSLR

I know originally there were couple of different beta revisions, one being for the refresh cars (assuming it’s computer related) and one for older models, so I’m wondering if there are lingering issues with them having to write code for different computers and vehicles.

Maybe it’s some weird coincidence then but in my MSLR, I never got any camera related prompts until the latest firmware that forced the analytics to be on. On MYLR, the cabin camera is aids regardless whether the analytics are toggled or not.

It wasn’t an issue until the latest update.

the point is that the people will defeat any safety measure when they want to act reckless, until you make things autonomous without any possible user input. Going around banning everything isn’t a solution.

Sure, then they’ll just use something else. Car? Bus? Not a flamethrower? Pipe bomb? A sword? Nail gun? A plane? What’s your solution? Ban everything? How many criminals do you think will wake up and think “ahh darn, wish guns were legal, I’d go shoot something up, but since they aren’t…. I’ll...

Sure you can throw out all of these far fetched situations that are caused by PEOPLE’S BEHAVIOR. (moderator edit) You’re not going to save everyone. If people decide to be reckless while driving, shooting, cutting down trees, working with chemicals, flying private planes, riding jet skies, list...

It’s also forced on my Model Y with no FSD and the share cabin cam analytics check box unchecked. I’m now at a point where I don’t use FSD or AP on either car. Just the TACC, which seems to behave better with much less phantom braking without AP or FSD.

Or what year In his defense, he is from South Africa, which is in southern hemisphere 😅

Ahh yea, the new and exciting feeling, I remember that. The hype will wear off after they realize they have spend $10k+, then stressed over their daily driving to get a good safety score for who knows how many months, just to get some overpromised crapshoot software that is not even close to...

Tesla is actually exactly who forced me to turn it on lol. I’ve had it unchecked since I got the car and had no issues (since July 2021). Now they’re forcing it to be on if you have FSD. And let’s not get into the semantics of “we all bought a car with a camera inside”. We also all bought a...

I had polarized oakleys, before I had the Tesla, and it made screens in some cars have lines and windshields to have dark spots. This was a while ago though. Haven’t had a pair of polarized lens since.

Nah, that dude rides Tesla so hard that he would probably pay for it even if he didn’t own a car.

True story

How are the windshield and the infotainment screen with the polarized sunglasses? I was going to get a pair but then decided not to in a fear that things would look wonky (some bad experiences in the past) Might have to consider a pair now though, need a way to defeat the big brother camera...

Geez, I guess these people weren’t here 16 pages ago when I complained about the “red hands of death”. I’m very much aware how this whole thing works and have been in beta since the original press the button try-outs. Thanks for the explanations though. My issue was that the red hands would not...

16 pages behind, haven’t used FSD once since the mad red arms of death causing a strike, also been somewhat busy. Did I miss anything good in here?

Especially when that OS runs on different CPUs requiring multiple versions of those apps to function on all cars.

You mean you don’t currently enjoy console quality gaming in your Tesla? 🤭 The key is customization. If the simple folks want to leave things as is, they could, but the other group, they’ll have a choice to make things custom, how they like it. I don’t know how someone could say the not...

It worked…. But brings me back to my original statement. Tesla UI team is going to need to step their game up to compete with a customizable dash, when they can’t even add an icon for an app that exists 😅😅

Open for development? 100% Their SDK is super powerful and allows developers to take advantage of a ton of OS related features. AppStore is massive. So is PlayStore on Android but that’s not very relevant considering it’s a CarPlay vs Tesla UI thread. Where is it? Maybe I’m blind, point me...

I guess the nice part of CarPlay, is integrations. Currently Tesla has a closed source proprietary OS with proprietary apps which limit your customizations in every way possible. Aside from changing the car color LOL. Tesla needs to step up their game in the UI department. I still don’t have...

Can confirm my 2021 MY has this garbage cabin stalking nag too. No FSD but it acts a fool on AP. Been using TACC only due to that. Everywhere as long as AP/FSD are turned on. Been using TACC only to avoid this nonsense.

By dashboard, I meant the screen in front of the yoke that only S and X have. Not the main infotainment screen. My Y doesn’t have any customizations other than dragging the icons around lol

The key point about CarPlay dashboard is... it's customizable. Right now we can't customize anything on our S/X dashboards.

I know Elon won't allow it, but how will Tesla compete their stale dash UI against the customizable Apple CarPlay dash features? Should be interesting to see.

If anyone has watched the Apple WWDC Keynote today, what's your thought about the new CarPlay update vs Tesla dashboard UI? Once the videos go live on YouTube, I'll link them here for those who did not watch the keynote.

I want that for navigation too. A chime for up-coming turns. The GPS lady talks too damn much, ruining my music. I tweeted it to Musk before but I’m no shill so it went into the abyss.

It wasn’t forced to be on until this update. I’ve had that spy garbage turned off the entire time until now. Let’s be real, if I still have to play the wheel torque game then I’m not playing the camera game. Tesla needs to pick one or the other, else it’s easier to just drive manually. The...

What car do you have? So far it appears to happen more frequently in the MS

The best part is, before you had to play whack-a-mole with the steering wheel torque, now you need to play another game with the Cabin Camera, so that’s two games to play while trying to drive the damn car on straight flat roads of Florida. At this point it’s honestly just too much of an...

They have preplanned for that with IR sensors around the camera. Also to make sure to track you in the dark. Lmao, covering the cabin camera causes a system fault. Won’t be surprised if the new car models have anal probes too, and the car won’t turn on until it senses the probe inside your anus.

It was 3 strikes until this update, now it’s 5, almost as if they knew there were going to be issues. It was a never ending pay attention warning with red arms until it struck me out. It reminded me of that “pull over! I can’t pull over anymore, I’m already pulled over” scene from Super...

Yea, my first strike ever since being in beta (one of the original 99 score testers). Won’t use FSD until it’s resolved.

Getting the red hands of death every 30 seconds. Torque and looking forward as hard as possible does not solve it. Ended up with 1 strike and not won’t use FSD until the issue is resolved. Seems as in this update they also changed the refresh MS to 5 strikes instead of 3. Never had a single...