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  1. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yeah, I’ve no idea why @Artful Dodger identifies as cat now. 🤷🏻‍ Perhaps come to his senses. You’re way too boring to ever get there, but I’ve got high hopes for @StarFoxisDown! who is almost grumpy enough to receive an honorary cat title.
  2. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    So, really good news, huh?
  3. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I’m inclined to think the Fed is just winging it. Like all the time. Like a monkey throwing darts randomly, only not as accurately.
  4. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Damn it! There goes another few billion up in smoke. When will the insanity stop. This is going to require another round of layoffs at the minimum.
  5. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    See, everyone. Zero chance this dude ever has a wife (or partner) and kids to worry about. He’s our very own Antman, but when he was younger. 😉
  6. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Meh. He’s not even 30 yrs old and is an engineer. He can go out and get a job any time he wants even in another field. Do you know how much Mickey Ds is paying now to flip burgers!? If he was middle aged with a mortgage and a family to support etc…, then it might be concerning. But right...
  7. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    So somebody half the country doesn’t support puts together a committee to talk about putting together an agency less than 10% of the country supports to talk about it. That sounds like an awesome solution. Not that I think the EPA is doing a bang up job. It’s just, well, we’re doomed. Oh...
  8. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    OMG, thank you for bringing it back to what’s important. Strange that some long term investors still don’t get it even after all this time and your exact points being laid out time and time again. Colors, again? Really? 🙄
  9. Krugerrand

    SCOTUS Roe v Wade posts

    Some of them, yes. Absolutely. I’ve no idea how many we’ve ’lost’ because of this SCOTUS decision anymore than you do. This isn’t the place to have this conversation, but you do need to know this isn’t somehow a big issue for Tesla.
  10. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Labor unions in France have ZERO bearing on Tesla, if and until Tesla has a factory there. Yes, I’m aware that post was actually in response to someone who dissed France’s 35h work week and supposed lack of manufacturing prowess. We stand corrected on the matter. Currently unions and how they...
  11. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    No, not ‘many’. People have to make a living, put a roof over their heads, food on the table etc…. And while currently the job market favors those looking for employment, that won’t last forever. People who love being part of a union won’t even bother to go apply at a union shop. Instead...
  12. Krugerrand

    SCOTUS Roe v Wade posts

    That’s an interesting take on things. 😳 In the end, this isn’t a big deal for Tesla or most other companies. It’s not like professional women are using abortion as a form of every day birth control.
  13. Krugerrand

    SCOTUS Roe v Wade posts

    I think Tesla will just simply do the right thing, thus current and future female employees need not stress about that aspect of being employed in the state of Texas. Going after Tesla is about as stupid as it gets and those that have done so have paid for it and/or will pay for it. Every day...
  14. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    In THIS context. No. Such an employee is too stupid to work at Tesla if they want it unionized. They should be sent on their way where they are free to pick any number of auto factories with existing unions. Maybe they can pool their resources and join with the work-from-home group and form...
  15. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Ok, as a long time and term investor in TSLA, I can tell you I don’t care what some random person on the Internet claims to know or not know about Tesla’s AI. Nor do I care how many degrees they claim to have. Nor do I actually think there’s anything ‘polarizing’ about Tesla’s AI. It’s...
  16. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yes, okay. But how exactly does that matter to your investment in Tesla? Or for most *here* (in this thread)? I contend, it doesn’t. It might matter over in the wheel thread, if WallStreet is over estimating or under estimating Tesla’s bottom line and IF, IF, IF, any of that even matters to...
  17. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Okay let’s go with that for argument’s sake. So, what’s your point then? Exactly. Does it mean TSLA is worth the current SP? Or less? Does it mean Tesla is going bankrupt? In relation to Tesla/TSLA as an investment what exactly does the above POV mean to you? Because to me it doesn’t...
  18. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Okay, I’m not sure why you married Zep but maybe get your own account so people don’t confuse you two.
  19. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I’ve made my spouse do their part. A Model 3 sold to the chiropractor last year. Another Model 3 sold to the acupuncturist early this year and now a Model Y ordered for the acupuncturist’s wife. Dentist just emailed to say she’s taking delivery of a Model 3 tomorrow. Yes, yes. Working on...
  20. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Somebody needs to buy a clue. 🙄
  21. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Good thing it’s ‘top secret’. 🙄
  22. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Can relate. Old school, middle class and very proud in-laws. Just bought them a new TV and cabinet (respectively 30 & 40 years old - both on the fritz). I literally told them if they didn’t go buy it (and I’ll pay for it), I’d buy it for them and I couldn’t guarantee they’d enjoy my taste in...
  23. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    That’s like having just one potato chip. 🙄
  24. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Nothing to rejoice about. We’re easily $500 below where we should be. The SP should reflect the company’s future and financial health. I don’t care if the world is burning, the current SP is not a true or correct reflection of the company in this moment of time. We’re being played and I...
  25. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Honda; more American than Ford or GM. 🤣
  26. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Unless you’re going to pontificate (sincerely) about demand issues, you’re of no use to me.
  27. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    ? Feel free to opinion away, but don’t get your feelings hurt when everyone disagrees with it. It’s an incorrect opinion because literally Elon has repeatedly said Tesla will only ever advertise if/when it makes sense. The company is nowhere near the if/when and won’t be for the foreseeable...
  28. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Can you clarify what your point is here? Because it sounds like you’re equating an identical market cap between two different companies as meaning that those two companies are also equal in every other business way, including future value. And there’s no way you mean that, right!?
  29. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    But you left the door open. In this moment you say no advertising, but tomorrow you could say they should do it. Mostly, it’s just a tired 5+ yr old argument. I’m not even sure why anyone who’s been here more than a second wouldn’t know what’s going to happen on this front. Tesla will not...
  30. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    So, basically humans continue to do what they’ve done since the dawn of man? How enlightening. I obviously have a higher tolerance for chaos and vitriol because I thought neither was particularly evident. I’m not mad at anyone and I’ve learned interesting things about a number of individuals...
  31. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I didn’t say he was honest to a fault. I said I placed higher value on honesty than dishonesty. Different. I’m not a member of the Chinese government, therefore I don’t value political posturing, butt kissing, tip toeing, bush beating, or whatever is expected of foreign business persons...
  32. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Absolutely not. It is this extracurricular activity that showcases who each of us is, as well puts all our humanity on display so we might better understand exactly what kind of a predicament the world is in. We are all generally ‘for’ and on the same page, and yet look at us. Just look at...
  33. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Why you asking him? Go ask the Chinese government why. And while you’re at it, I’m pretty sure we can come up with a whole list of why questions for them, followed by a list for every government on the planet. 🙄
  34. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yeah, you’re going to have to back that up with some real data, that doesn’t exist.
  35. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    You might not realize it, though it’s been pointed out to you before, but your posts literally ooze anger and hatred. A person would have to be as dense as a brick not to ‘feel’ that bucket of goo hanging from your neck.
  36. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Oh, stop. Because what you just said was that you expected Elon to be perfect and non-human. 🙄 Yes, you did. He gets to believe differently than you as long as he’s consistent in ways you think he should be. Here’s a shocker for you; people are complex and walking conundrums. Even I am...
  37. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    So, we currently lost how many millions of people to the recent pandemic? Not just those who died, but also the ones suffering long term health problems, and those deciding life’s too short and retired early. And still others who packed up their lives and made significant changes leaving the...
  38. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    That’s a big ole pile of beetle dung from you. If you don’t know who those leaders are, then you simply didn’t put in the effort to research them and follow them. And clearly the products they have to offer have little to no potential to change all our lives (or yours) significantly, or you’d...
  39. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I understand stream of conscious coming via the ‘out loud’ voice can be jarring to those who are used to tempering that voice and refraining from saying a lot of things they’d like to. In the name of polite society and all that. No surprise here for you; meh. As with any approach in life...
  40. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Of course, you’re right. Those company leaders simply lie to people, tell them what they want to hear so as not to upset their sensibilities. Those leaders quietly line their pockets and support industrial corruption. Totally a better way to be.
  41. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Well that makes me feel better. 🤪
  42. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    But they are part of the control mechanism. So if they’re being told by the higher ups…
  43. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yeah, that’s not going to fly with me. TSLA purchase was speculation for many of us here. Guess what? We were right. When finance is decentralized and banks cease to exist in the form we currently recognize, as Elon is *speculating*, I hope we’re both around so I can remind you of your...
  44. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Here’s a thought. Maybe it’s your mistake. Looks like a mistake today, but when BTC was sitting at over $50k - hmmm…not so much. And didn’t they sell some of that BTC at a profit? I’ve heard lots of this was a mistake that was a mistake for years now, but nobody ever waits long enough to see...
  45. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Maybe it’s in Alaska!? Mwhahaha!
  46. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Absolutely not. I will only accept a challenge of a pistol duel as my fencing talents are currently lacking. I do appreciate your consistent rah-rah optimism of late. I want you to be right as badly as I want @Unpilot to show up at my doorstep so I can try out my new catapult I just had...

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