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    Adding 2 more power walls… I think

    Maybe adding a generator? is a safer option in case there is no sun for long periods of time? I agree that pricing outside of Tesla will always be more (usually $25k-$30k for an intial 2 battery install) so there is sticker shock among a lot of folks, but that's what regular people have been...
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    Too big of a system?

    A good reason to oversize a system is for cloudy days. If it's choppy sun, solar does pretty bad and when you one can normally get 45kWh+ daily production, cloudy can drop that by a massive amount down to like 10kWh or less. We work from home and don't even drive much, but if $$ isn't a huge...
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    Too big of a system?

    Heh, we run our AC at night since it's hard to sleep (no whole house fan) when it's hot. But yeah, I charge usually at peak sun from like 11am - 2pm or so. As someone who uses like 15 kWh per day normally, summer hot days and EV charging and we're well over 50+ kWh easily (and that's not going...
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    Too big of a system?

    With the AC on and EV charging, even I would've liked more panels now (not really any good roof space left) . EV charging uses a massive amount of energy and more panels = not having to drain batteries any/much when you run your AC or charge the car during peak sun. As I mentioned before, I...
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    California Utilities Plan All Out War On Solar, Please Read And Help

    In a life/death situation or disaster, people will still take advantage and even if they posted that power was $9/kWh in real time (I think it's actually $9 vs. $9000 since it's MWh in the article vs. kWh), people will still be price gouged since people are stupid in general (look at payday...
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    California Utilities Plan All Out War On Solar, Please Read And Help

    As I've stated before, I simply think the IOUs are too big, too powerful. Break them all up and make local/regional power companies which are non-profits serving their local communities. Local communities also own their own land I assume and can go hog wild with solar/battery storage in a...
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    California Utilities Plan All Out War On Solar, Please Read And Help

    Market prices sound great, but when you have a natural disaster, and life/death is on the line, I'm not sure we want that like people in TX with their thousand dollar bills because prices were market based and $9/kWh. If there are long outages and freak weather events, seems just like a jerk...
  8. S

    2xPowerwall whole house backup - HVAC sure start problem

    Many thanks for this...Is this the same as that carrier one, but the Bryant version? Our current AC is single stage only and I assume, probably has less than 5 years on it. Would be nice with lower power draw since I notice the A/C drains our batteries real quick right now when we have no sun...
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    2xPowerwall whole house backup - HVAC sure start problem

    Can you/anyone share a link to a truly variable speed compressor AC? We will probably have to replace out AC in a bit/soon and might as well start the research. Thank you.
  10. S

    Tesla Solar vs ....[third party competitors]

    I can't speak for Tesla and Ohio, but I used Energy Sage as well as checking a few local solar outfits. I probably got 10 - 15 quotes and spent (wasted) a lot of time on my own research. As great as some people make local places to be, some were (maybe it's just the salesperson) incredibly...
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    Is Powerwall necessary in Bay Area?

    I think this can't be stated enough as funny/silly the above sounds. I went in and have stated here many times that there is probably little/no ROI on batteries, but I think the flexibility/control/power/freedom of power outages/possible off grid future can't be understated neither. With...
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    California Utilities Plan All Out War On Solar, Please Read And Help

    Maybe we'll just all go off grid after NEM1.0/2.0 expires for each individual (for power at least). I can't see how there are many solar installs once NEM3.0 is live with some of the bad terms listed. Grab your popcorn watching all the jobs go poof and maybe a year after that, we'll see they...
  13. S

    Power out in East Bay, Pleasanton

    I'm still waiting myself for one here (SD).
  14. S

    Need help with CA NEM 2.0.

    1st rule to work at an IOU: Confuse the h%#* out of your customer. 2nd rule to work at an IOU: Go back and work on rule #1, but harder.
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    CPUC Nem 3.0 discussion as it relates to Energy Products

    Didn't Nevada sue to challenge the 20 to 15 year grandfathering rules? Anyone in NV can comment on the state of things there? I did see in some searches that they killed NEM completely in like 2017 or something, but changed the law back after all the jobs and projects were killed off and solar...
  16. S

    CPUC Nem 3.0 discussion as it relates to Energy Products

    Yeah, I keep seeing people post 15 years. Why are we doing that and is that piece a done deal?
  17. S

    California Utilities Plan All Out War On Solar, Please Read And Help

    Your points all go back to we need to look at energy needs/uses locally. Local or at least smaller municipal solutions can't be much worst than PG&E. Like miiumura says, their bankrupcy was the perfect time to fix things and just possibly carve them out. Things like the rural areas maybe can...
  18. S

    FPL (Florida) increases minimum monthly bill to $25 (plus taxes and fees)

    The thing is if you are a net exporter, they DON'T pay you 69 cents/kWh. They pay you like 2-3 cents for any extra. You can at best, zero out your own bill, but the utlitity will continue to sell your power at peak times to your neighbors without solar at 69 cents/kWh. My point is still that...
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    FPL (Florida) increases minimum monthly bill to $25 (plus taxes and fees)

    Not sure why, but you do know that the power company is happy to sell your excess at peak rates to your neighbor (in SD, that's at $0.69/kWh (highest in the nation) for most non-solar people over baseline). It's not like these companies are considered friendly and great, nice folks really. I...
  20. S

    FPL (Florida) increases minimum monthly bill to $25 (plus taxes and fees)

    Can they do this in CA? It's pretty obvious this is a way to get $$ from solar owners since non-solar owners will nearly always have bills greater than $25.
  21. S

    Unfinished installation: Is this common?

    Tesla installs are all over the map with some going perfectly in 1 day and some, dragging out like yours for 2+ years and it's still not done. I'd say 2 years is not common though and I'd be concerned with NEM3.0 and try to get them to find some ways to just get it over the finish line if you...
  22. S

    Third party battery like fox ess

    Yeah, the cost difference is honestly so minimal I felt that not having a single point of failure and waiting for someone to send you a whole new SolarEdge part and waiting weeks/month (there are posts here) made me not want to go that route. I think the warranty is also 10 years on that box...
  23. S

    Third party battery like fox ess

    No one can compete with Tesla directly on price so if you are purely shopping based on price, it's a losing battle. For me, PWs and Enphase were pretty much the same price if you used independent installers. That was last year though and as everyone has posted, prices have gone up a lot for...
  24. S

    Tesla Solar and Powerwall Price Increase, May 2022

    Sunpower panels tend to be overpriced. I think I got over 10+ quotes and usually, from 3rd parties, I was seeing about $45k-$50k for 2x Powerwalls (or Enphase) and a bit less solar than yours around my area (southern CA). I also see that your screenshot was a loan so that tosses out any easy...
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    Tesla Solar and Powerwall Price Increase, May 2022

    Wow, prices have really gone up...Used to see Tesla solar only quotes at ~$2 or less. It's now at $2.62 from your quote. If you aren't set, can't hurt to see what independents are charging just for giggles maybe (or if you want other tech like microinverters).
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    Third party battery like fox ess

    Not familiar with all of those, but I would avoid LG since they've had recalls on their batteries (maybe google and do your own research) and I've only read mostly bad things about that one. My installer hates LG as well. I mentioned it before, but the main reason I went with Enphase was that...
  27. S

    Tesla Solar System Questions

    I personally think installing solar gives you $0 extra in selling a home, but that's me with my CA mindset (with our prop 13 and insane price increases). Solar is a puddle in what houses cost when 1 mil is the ghetto and a $25k-$50k install is nothing compared to the price of houses now...
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    Tesla Solar System Questions

    I wouldn't do solar if I was moving in a few years (what's "a few"?), but I also suggest getting as much as you can in 1 shot. Not sure about NM, but some installers won't touch someone elses earlier work so you'll have 2 systems if you add on later and there is the added cost/hassle of having...
  29. S

    Possibly adding a 3rd Powerwall. Good idea?

    I wouldn't do it to capture some of the excess production, but it's more of a "where do I want to dump my $$" question. If $$ is no object and you just want to have 3 PWs, nothing else to buy, then get another. Outside of lasting slightly longer in a long power outage (assuming 2 gets you...
  30. S

    PW owners, summer is coming/here. What is your reserve percentage?

    I usually just go with 40% and manage my use during peak (no AC, EV charging, etc...) at 4-9pm. On stretches of cloudy days, I raise it to 60-80%. I don't use the equivalent of Storm Watch (on Enphase). I plan to overcool the house till 4pm and flip the AC off after. I net export so it's...
  31. S

    CPUC Nem 3.0 discussion as it relates to Energy Products

    I thought about this myself and as long as you're not charging on-peak, isn't it really the same as just charging from the grid off-peak and when the sun is out, instead of charging the EV, just EXPORT that energy instead?
  32. S

    CPUC Nem 3.0 discussion as it relates to Energy Products

    Seems like any new proposal is going to be pretty bad so far still. Not sure how it survives when solar installs drop 90-95% and new construction won't install solar due to costs being so bad. Is anyone proposing just taking over the utilities and has a plan of how to do it (should probably...
  33. S

    Do you have enough solar to go off grid in winter?

    Installing the gateway by itself is just not a wise investment really. Installers don't want to do it and it makes no sense to me and that friend quote was inflated so they don't have to do it. I assume it's that high because Enphase almost always requires you to have a loads panel so pulling...
  34. S

    CPUC Nem 3.0 discussion as it relates to Energy Products

    This is why my point and suggestion points back to going local, kick large IOUs to the curb and manage it in city. A lot of the decent small energy ones seem to be city ran with lower rates, etc. This is where large government regulating you from far away (Sacramento for all of CA) and massive...
  35. S

    Do you have enough solar to go off grid in winter?

    I think it's actually less about # of power walls, but actually getting another power source. Solar/storage is not enough for say, a week of cloudy weather or for anyone in CA, a crazy wildfire blocking all sun with smoke. For charging your car, you can also stop by a Tesla Supercharger if you...
  36. S

    Do you have enough solar to go off grid in winter?

    If I were to do this TODAY, I'd need a generator hooked up to recharge the batteries (available on Enphase system currently) on only cloudy/rainy days before evening. I'm not sure how long generators last though and that's the beauty of solar panels, no moving parts. I'm on Enphase storage and...
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    CPUC Nem 3.0 discussion as it relates to Energy Products

    I think actually not having the IOUs would be in the public interest (I do not think IOUs are doing anything for anyone elses benefit and we're in the mess because of their greed/profit motive/shareholders/monopoly/lack of choice/etc). As I have stopped responding to Zabe directly anymore...
  38. S

    CPUC Nem 3.0 discussion as it relates to Energy Products

    This is why I don't sign up for any cut back things since it's pointless if you can't/won't change much use. The $$ is so little to not worth the hassle.
  39. S

    CPUC Nem 3.0 discussion as it relates to Energy Products

    I keep saying my main reasons for ESS is stuff like that (crazy prices from IOUs). AC will still be a problem, but we also have a smaller portable if its deathly hot. If it's high noon and 100+, solar has no problem keeping up with 1 AC running. Cool down to 70 during earlier hours, turn off...
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    CPUC Nem 3.0 discussion as it relates to Energy Products

    This was 1 reason I got batteries for me. For all we know, on-peak pricing can be some insane $50/kWh. If it's night, without solar, you're pretty much stuck with whatever the IOU charges. You have no protection at all, and batteries provide some protection. Of course, $50 is crazy, but some...
  41. S

    Add powerwall to existing system

    Hmm, my rate is 2.75% for 30 year fixed. Maybe that was near the bottom last year and I had to probably pay fees to get that rate (wasn't noticeable to me), but with ibonds paying 9%+ now and interest rates going up across the board, I suppose like the dumb home owner who looks at monthly...
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    CPUC Nem 3.0 discussion as it relates to Energy Products

    The problem still boils down to the IOUs being for profit government allowed monopolies. Look at all the power options that aren't the IOUs (Santa Clara Power, etc). When you remove that exec comp, for profit shareholder motives, need/demand, cost/prices can actually drop because less usage is...
  43. S

    Add powerwall to existing system

    Reason for our own delay and if you have owned your home anywhere in CA for a while, I'd assume you have some/lots of equity with how crazy housing prices have been. Cash out refi is not a bad way to 'afford' it. 1st time recent home buyers would certainly have a tougher time.
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    Add powerwall to existing system

    Yep, why I keep stating here do it all at once. Piecemeal add ons after the fact has been a problem even when I started my own research last year. Like bad code, no one wants to deal with someone elses install and will probably never warranty against it. Certainly not Tesla.
  45. S

    CPUC Nem 3.0 discussion as it relates to Energy Products

    Problem with NEM3.0 is if it doesn't pencil out, I think new home construction requires solar to make financial sense and we saw the initial NEM3.0 proposal being so bad that no one would get solar for anymore new construction if they had to pay $500-$700 just to have it. 15-20 year returns for...
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    CPUC Nem 3.0 discussion as it relates to Energy Products

    It's not even politics or state issues, it's purely the IOUs. I think every non large IOUs in CA charges a lot less for their power even when they are literally 1 block over from the IOU. That clearly shows the problem. When it's a for profit company setup to enrich shareholders/execs, they...
  47. S

    New Powerwall Advanced Options [Toggles for charging from and discharging to grid from powerwalls]

    Yeah, I already stuck as much solar panels as possible outside of putting panels on the north or east facing sides. I didn't want the hassle of trying to get a future installer to deal with the old install which seems like a headache and 2 systems. We have very stable power here, but I think...
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    New Powerwall Advanced Options [Toggles for charging from and discharging to grid from powerwalls]

    I'm waiting for this still... The way I look at batteries is less ROI, but more it's $$ I can't waste some other way. With how expensive Tesla cars are (Model S/X or any Lux brand), a few batteries doesn't seem that costly at the end of the day compared to spending $20k on some other toy...
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    CPUC Nem 3.0 discussion as it relates to Energy Products

    Your Cadillac example is a really bad one. No one needs a fancy car (a cheap one works), but power/gas is a pretty basic need. People can go and skip the Cadillac and can also choose a Lincoln, but with power, the IOUs own the power lines to the neighborhood and you really can't pick another...
  50. S

    Increasing Home Insurance with system installation cost?

    I told my insurance too, but they didn't change my rates. It's concerning since installing solar felt expensive to me, but maybe with home prices and construction costs so high, they just assume your solar install was peanuts compared to that. Home insurance is always a concern with stories...

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