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Because Tesla doesn't want the car back. They are only interested in selling new ones.

Nice writeup, you summed it up well. Sounds like you are addicted to cars, same here. The upcoming manual trans option in the 2023 Supra has me intrigued but then there is the new Nissan Z. 🤔

I am still in a transition... I have a Model 3 but I also have a performance ICE based vehicle. The Model 3 does all the daily driving. It is quick, efficient, great tech, comfortable, etc. but for some enthusiasts it lacks a lot of engagement and any sort of visceral experience, if you like...

I don't think that is accurate. If you search you will see reports of Hellcats running 7:51. The list here has the M3P at 9:00, which means a VW GTI is faster? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_N%C3%BCrburgring_Nordschleife_lap_times

Supposedly the 2017 SRT Hellcat did a 7:51 around the ring stock. I would imagine the newer wide-body models with improved suspension, 305 rubber on all corners and the Redeye gets 797hp could put down an eve better time. They are heavy but the newer wide-body suspension handles the weight...

I owned a C7 Corvette Grand Sport, Tesla M3P, Camaro ZL1 and a Miata ND. IMO, the Miata is the most fun to drive on the street. 2300lbs, top goes down and you can wind out the gears on the street without risking your license. ;) It is just tough to live with as your only car.

I think there will always be a percentage of enthusiasts that will long for that visceral feel you can only get from a high performance ICE based vehicle. I hope manufacturers can find way to make EVs more engaging to drive but that doesn't seem to be the case so far. I am sure when Dodge...

It is annoying for sure but Homelink is starting to disappear from other manufacturers models as well. The trend is toward garage door openers that are WiFi enable so you can open them via an app on the phone or even use voice commands. Otherwise grab the trusty opener and clip it to the visor...

He did monitor it, right into a parked plane. I crash my RC cars as well, but the damage is much less. ;)

Yep, some leases are great, some not so great. No one had a crystal ball 3 years ago but in hindsight this is one car that was better to own since Tesla never allowed the buyer the option to buy the car at the end of the lease. FWIW, the resale value of my Tesla M3 Performance pretty much...

Agreed, if it is not included, make it an option when you order the car instead of stressing out all the new customers staring at an out of stock message at the Tesla online store and scrambling to find one.

I think they were using Smart Summon - aka RC Car Mode. ;)

It is strange, we have found a way to make a vehicle faster but less fun and engaging. Since going fast in an EV is relatively easy, I think manufacturers are going to have to focus on other aspects of the driving experience to appeal to enthusiasts. Sound, handling, styling, weight...

It is now called the "FU" support page. ;)

Yeah, the new GR86 seems like a pretty good value for having some fun on the street and low cost track fun. I am hearing good things about new Nissan Z. 400hp twin turbo, with a manual for under $50k sounds pretty good as well. The supply challenges really sap all the fun out of things right...

Agreed, but in my experience this is not how Tesla rolls. You get an vague Tweet from Elon then you search forums like this until you see a long thread and look for a semi official communication from Tesla service advisor. You then head over to the Tesla Online Shop where 80% of items are out of...

Remember the early braking issue where cars were taking 152ft and then OTA update brought it down to 122ft? The interesting thing is with EVs and regen braking there is a some fine tuning that can impact the performance beyond just the tires, pads and rotors.

And if pull off the the aero covers on the 18"s you will reveal a pretty decent looking set of front brake calipers. ;)

This makes more sense.

Yeah, lots of collaboration projects. The Supra is a BMW morph. The GR86 collab with with Subaru. How about Honda and GM building a sub $30k EV together? https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/05/gm-and-honda-to-partner-on-affordable-electric-vehicles.html

I am not suggesting the M3P is a disaster by any means. The car handles extremely well for its weight. The exit out of the corner in the M3P thanks to the instant torque and AWD is fantastic. As it relates to track work though you do have to make it work like you said by finding...

I hope they survive because if you have ever dealt with these smaller brands they tend to be a real pleasure. Mazda comes to mind. I have nothing but nice things to say about working with Mazda over the years.

Yep, I see Ford and GM for that matter going all in on EV but it will take a while before you convert the F-150 farm owner from using dinosaur juice. ;) Most of the initial F-150 Lightening trucks will be for the city dwellers with extra disposable income. Until you can tow a boat/trailer...

My 12v battery died but I was parked. This is disconcerting if this is how the car behaves while driving when a 12v battery dies. Did you still have power steering and boosted friction brakes?

You are right, the limits of the high powered cars are impossible to reach on the street without risking jail time. The C8 on track was actually very good, I just find it a bit subdued. The mid engine layout forced GM to really insulate the engine/exhaust note from the cabin and it is only...

I think it depends. If Toyota were to release an EV Tacoma pickup right now, I don't think many would hesitate since they have a long history of quality and reliability.

Yeah, I would think all that instant torque would bode well on an Autocross course. The guys at the road courses complain that the Teslas overheat and can't finish a 20 minute session before needing a charge. They have a big diesel generator with all of them plugged in. Then you have the...

You realize EVs still represent a small percentage of the overall market? Outside of Tesla Disneyland most people can’t afford an entry level Tesla starting at around $50k and the prices are only going up. We still have to solve charging for a large percentage of people who do not live in a...

I had my Model 3 Performance after 2 years or so. I liked it but I started to miss the engagement and drama you get from performance based ICE vehicles. I am back in a Camaro ZL1, which destroys my Model 3 Performance in all areas except for 0-60mph. The hard AWD launch of the Tesla gets the...

Dealers in my area will sell at MSRP but you have to wait 9-12 months for ordered C8s.

Not comparing numbers. Compare the pent up demand. If Ford could produce 100k Mach Es then they would probably sell every one of them.

Exactly, if you have been Tesla owner for a while then you know the drill.

People are also waiting for Corvettes, Tundras, GR86, Nissan Zs, Mach Es, Ford Lightning, Silverado EV, Hummer EVs, etc. and many are paying way over MSRP. Before the supply chain challenges you could order a Model 3 and have it in a week or so. I bought a 2019 SR+ and Model 3 Performance and...

If it is no big deal then why not reduce the price of the car by $200 and say the Mobile Charger is no longer included?

This is how Tesla works, you find out from a Tweet and then when you pick up your car it is missing the Homelink, charger, floor mats, frunk mat, USB cables, adapters, lumbar, radar, etc.

I forgot the Homelink was removed as well.

My point is a lot of Tesla owners are "fans" of the vehicles and products and they are willing to tolerate more. Your typical buyer who is not an enthusiastic fan of the company would be annoyed. At some point when there is more EV competition it will cost them business. For now, Tesla can do...

Exactly, if this is truly about low usage and supply chain challenges then make it optional and credit back the cost. Think of it this way, if Mobile Charger costs Tesla $100 and they produce 1M vehicles this year that is a cool $100M a year extra since they did not lower the price of the...

Only Tesla can get away with this kind of stuff and maybe Apple because their products are very good and in high demand at the moment. 🤔 That said, if Ford or Chevrolet pulled such a thing with little to no communication, it would be an outrage. ;)

Sorry, meant 14-50. I have an SR+, capped at 32 amp.

I mean there are supply chain challenges with lot of components in auto industry but those other manufacturers list the feature being deleted on the window sticker along with a small credit and a commitment to provide the missing product/feature at a later date when available. Tesla has a...

I am not sure why you think so many go unused. Most new EV buyers I know have a NEMA 5-50 outlet installed and plan to use the a Mobile charger that is supposed to come with your $50k+ EV. I would wager that there are more Tesla vehicles being charged at home via these a mobile connectors than...

The value proposition for EV is going in the wrong directly lately with all these price increases. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/ford-mustang-mach-e-prices-rise-significantly-due-to-increased-material-costs/ar-AAWjbB0?li=BBnb7Kz

Imagine opening your new laptop and realizing it didn't come with a power brick to charge it. 🤔 With all the recent price increases Tesla should be able to absorb the $100 for the Mobile Connector.

True, although this may be the first Corolla that is actually fun to drive. 300hp, AWD with a manual. ;)

Dang, I should see what my SR+ is worth now. In 2019 it was $39,990, after the $3,750 tax credit we only paid $36,240. Some folks were buying SRs off menu for $35k less the $3,750 tax credit, $31,250. I went for the SR+ for the included Autopilot, heated seats, fog lights and 20 miles of extra...

Valid point. A couple years ago I had someone stop me in a parking lot and ask me about my Tesla experience and he right away started saying he wanted to get one so he could go out drinking and have the car drive him home. He was dead serious. I was like, no dude, it is not at that level yet...

Let's hope FSD users are not too "relaxed" when using FSD or they may kill someone and blame it on the FSD system. ;)

Exactly, I get surface rust on my rotors immediately after a wash.

With the prices of raw materials lately, maybe even more $$$.