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  1. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    No, it does not. It just suggest that YOU should do the turn when you did not expect it, so you didn't pay attention and missed that exit. This gets supper annoying on regular venues where I do not need navigation to lead me except for detours due to traffic etc. If the car navigates, I do not...
  2. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    This is the danger, this is the pitfall, this is the reason traders fail. When you postpone buying because you expect the price will continue to fall, you are a trader. Don't look at the price, just buy when you can and only sell when you need cash and only as much as you need at the moment.
  3. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I suspect CT will have even fattier margins and total profit. In excess of 50% and still have years long waiting list ...
  4. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    So, when is Spain going into sea water desalinization for irrigation? Powered by solar of course? The only real problem is people living in the past/future, unwilling to solve current problems. The past had past problems, future will have future problems, now we have current problems. Go solve...
  5. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Still manically searching for it. Constructive that is. Haven't seen any for a long long time. Just personal diatribes and lies.
  6. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Split is a bad reference point ... I like the idea of BB occurring everytime the SP drops say 20% from ATH. Form a firm form.
  7. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    What are these nicks I've never seen posting here before?
  8. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    This clearly shows that the greatest danger for humanity is not climate change, it is humanity itself. The intelligent and mortally corrupt part of humanity.
  9. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    @cliff harris You are not looking for a model that could work, you are explaining how your model does not work. Robotaxis need not solve 100% of transportation to be revolutionary, 99,99% is more than enough. Even just 10% of miles traveled is a revolution already that changes a lot of things.
  10. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Tesla producing smaller car does not mean tesla selling that smaller car at a "smaller" price. That smaller car will come without steering wheel and with lifetime FSD you will have to pay for. The price of lifetime FSD wont be just $10k. It will be closer to $30k, making that $25k smaller tesla...
  11. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Only on robotaxis that will shoot for 1m miles.
  12. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    What is the difference between being wrong and lying? (Perceived) intent. Mind crime.
  13. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    This smells to me like some big whale is not happy with losing tweeter and is firing guns it can... massive naked shorting to try delete elons financial power. Simplest explanation is the correct one. Or am I to believe big shareholders aren't happy with company performance and are jumping...
  14. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    One cannot become less wrong without accepting that he is wrong.
  15. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    No, it dumps another 10%. And repeats this every 2 days until the form is filled. When it again dumps another 20% because elon sold. Don't look for rationality where there is none.
  16. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Limiting the spread of "misinformation" is limiting free speech. Yes, you and I have a right to lie. What you call a lie, I call a truth. Who is to judge? What we don't have right to do is limiting each other ability to lie. We also don't have right to pretend to be bigger than we are.
  17. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Q: Will Tesla sell robotaxis? A: No answer. So, if they do not sell them, who is paying for their production? Say it costs 20k to make one, so $2B will pay for production of 200.000 robotaxis. A robotaxi will need to drive around for year or two before it pays pay for itself.
  18. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    They are already building their own kukas ... they also improved them so much that two of them replaced some 150. Gigapress + 2 kukas == stamping + 150 kukas doing welding and repositioning. Don't do the same, do better.
  19. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    1. Hindsight is 20:20 2. Past performance is not indicative of future events 3. TA is correct until it suddenly is not. 4. HOLD
  20. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It is not about selling TSLA or not selling TSLA. It is about how much TSLA you sell and for what exactly? Do you sell a third now to buy your first house and go off debt and rent completely? Hell yeah! You sell all now to buy a taycan? Hell no!
  21. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    In a way this announcement helps the shorts - they now know there will be no split before the shareholders meeting. It removed one possibility in this period. It also brought in people who want to front run the split. Who will win? I will. Hold.
  22. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    No. Exact number of issued shares was, is and will stay irrelevant. What matters is the split itself. What matters is that those pulled-out-of-the-backside shares need to be bought on the free market. A kind of a shorting reset that reveals truer share price. Two for one accomplishes this as...
  23. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It won't be surprise because the surprise just happened. Everything that is still to come is mere technicalities, stock split is de-facto here. Next one will be #3.
  24. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yes, wysiwyg from this line. 2170 is not for just a few months, rather years.
  25. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Autonomy will solve this delivery experience hassles. It will honk at arrival...
  26. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Whining about Elon on etc forums helps how exactly? Will he change? Instead of whining, you should simply decide are you still on board or not. That will help. Help you and your 'public' who must read your whines and comfort your pains. Humans? No, just old infants.
  27. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    >> Without question we have a new era of global risk to consider The old world is dying. For real. And it wont go down without a massive fight. I have a hunch that elon's charity donation will turn out to be something quite profound ... what can one do with 5 billions? Quite something i guess...
  28. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    True, the cost of doing business around here. FWIW it looks like the next giga will happen in China. All the Germans can disagree as much as they like, China gets the job done, Germany does not. Fact.
  29. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Worse than Germany? Not possible.
  30. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    There is no countering FUD as there is no destroying of stupid. Both is here to stay, concentrate on your work.
  31. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    No. Look at the semi reveal, there are two semis, one with lower roof-line i.e. lower aeroprop.
  32. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Not really ... peak time traffic includes traffic that need not happen at peak time. Adjust (rise) peak time prices and some part of traffic will move to other times, lowering the top and raising the bottom. Better utilization.
  33. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    HODLing is for kids, gownups BAGA Buy And Go Away
  34. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    For the time being warranty is just a form of marketing - you offer longer warranties where/when you have poor customer trust. When the trust increases you can shorten the period. You don't (have to) offer any warranty if you do not sell the car.
  35. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    This is old world thinking.... in the new world there will be no "vehicles outside of warranty".
  36. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    We came to a point in time where the most influential things that directly and most affects us all must not be talked about. Forbidden, taboo, heresy ... we can only discuss the lesser things, less important things. Humans already went through such times, we now refer to them as dark ages. The...
  37. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    There is a very good reason for splitting that is currently unfulfilled i.e. current share price is not high enough to prevent majority of tesla employees from buying shares at discount prices. This will become a problem when SP goes above 2k this fall.
  38. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yes... until I remember their pushing enabled my gains. Please do some more pushing, do coil up that spring some more!
  39. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Dumb are unable to understand smart and smart are unable to understand dumb.
  40. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    >> and even population trends become a supply chain issue 1. you supply 5 kids 2. you supply bots
  41. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Berlin is already a huge fiasco. There will be imports from Texas into Germany,
  42. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Correct. I look forward to updated M3 with F and R casting, 4860 pack etc ... a P variant of course :)
  43. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Mask will need to emigrate to Mars just to escape the Earth rot. Will he need to setup Mars planetary defense? Probably. Such is humanity.
  44. WarpedOne

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It is indeed trivial but not in a way of your thinking. There is no single correct way of determining the correct price. PE is just one way used by some people and laughed at by others. You can modify the methodology to render a better result ... better according to who and why? Current SP is...

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