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    Wait for matrix lights? Model X Plaid being delivered within the week

    I remember when both S/X had their "refresh-refresh" around Feb/Mar, and S got matrix lights but X didn't... multiple Tesla service advisors were *convinced* that the X had matrix lights as well. More than one told me "these latest refresh models are simply BLINDING". Couple this with multiple...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Certainly seems new. This is what I've been asking for all along: let people who are in a rush take the rejected (and hopefully repaired) cars. Let the patient folks wait for a solid build.
  3. S

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Probability you even get a VIN before 7/30 is ~0.
  4. S

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Awesome to have relevant experts in this forum. Thanks for the info!
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    No need to get so emotional, and I'm not trying to argue. Just trying to collect information here. No, I don't own a Tesla (yet!), but I own countless gorilla glass products and *occasionally* have been able to scratch a subset of them at the beach. But your anecdote is helpful- perhaps the...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Sand. Gorilla glass cannot withstand sand. Next time you go to the beach, pay close attention to small, seemingly insignificant grains of sand that get embedded in your hands. Then go touch a modern touchscreen.
  7. S

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    This is all you had to say :). Thanks, that's helpful.
  8. S

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Gorilla glass is just a brand. They have many different types of glass, often trading off shatter-resistance vs. scratch-resistance. I've definitely managed to scratch or chip many gorilla glass products, and I consider myself to be very careful.
  9. S

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    And why would that point to it not being a bug?
  10. S

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    The far more plausible explanation (IMO, anyway) for the en masse order holds is a system glitch on their end. The ordering infrastructure is a mess.
  11. S

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Very good point. I'm officially out of devil advocacies :)
  12. S

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Yeah, that's true. But it could always be a situation where there's only 90% of stocked projected keys available. Tesla doesn't want to hold up that remaining 10%.
  13. S

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Absolutely. I'll say again that in practical terms this isn't a huge issue (to either Tesla or their customer), but on paper it looks rather bad. It's so puzzling that they'd do this that I think it all but confirms that they had a supply chain disruption. I can imagine program managers...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    How durable is the touchscreen glass? Do folks recommend screen protectors?
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    I agree that they should absolutely include the fobs for older orders. The damage to their mindshare is arguably greater than any potential margin boost. But at the same time I’m not bothered to buy a couple fobs given I’m already spending >100k. This is easily in “buy the fobs and move on with...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Model year doesn't matter in any useful sense other than perception. That doesn't mean every car is the same. One car built a day after another can potentially be better, or even worse (look at matrix lights getting ripped out of M3LR). One of these cars has 98 mi on the ODO and the other has...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Do you have kids? I can see the key fob being invaluable for opening the FWDs as you approach with little passengers.
  18. S

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Thanks for this. The original MX Matrix headlights rumor was June/July, but I wouldn't be surprised if we're still looking for them into August. Perhaps a supply chain issue. Who knows what's going on with the seat back pockets. That's so weird that they'd render it but still not ship anything...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Thanks for the update. How's the car otherwise?
  20. S

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Any sign of matrix lights or seat back-pockets?
  21. S

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    The lack of ability to drive the rear screen from the front is a real issue, but completely orthogonal to the form of media delivery.
  22. S

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Y You can't do the same with Disney+?
  23. S

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Excellent! Let us know how it goes. And please let us know if you got matrix headlights (unlikely), or the new seat-back pockets that the updated images show.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    No reports of this, AFAIK. According to Elon, all builds since Nov '21 should be able to accept the center horn software upgrade. Still puzzling why we haven't seen that yet, though.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Did we ever find out how @Stro did with his car? Last I saw he really didn’t like it (even hated it).
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Form factor is reportedly identical within a certain model. Even the connectors are the same. Model 3 LR went back to "standard" lights at some point, and I think MYLR still has standard lights (while MYP has matrix), so Tesla definitely appears to leverage the parts being interoperable...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Yeah, which some have speculated happened at the beginning of July (around now). Could still be that Vxc22's car trickled-out of the factory before this (perhaps was built right at the end of June?). Otherwise, who knows when this might happen.
  28. S

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Thanks! It looks like the matrix headlights aren't here yet though :(. These are the standard lights that everyone has (so far).
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Certainly looks like a very fresh VIN. Do you have a build date? This is one of the first deliveries we've seen reported around here this month. When you see it, please take pictures of your headlights... a lot of folks expecting the transition to matrix headlights soon. If they're matrix, they...
  30. S

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    There certainly does seem to be a gap. Anyone here take delivery of a fresh VIN in the past week? Or have a scheduled delivery of a fresh VIN in the coming week?
  31. S

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    This one is new I think. Mis-aligned how? Rotationally? Or is it as if it's bent on the steering shaft? What did Tesla say about fixing it?
  32. S

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    This should have all of the latest major features that we know about (tilting screen, etc.)
  33. S

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Please give us a few more VIN digits than this and we might be able to tell you :). Leaving the last 2 off should protect your identity enough.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Supposedly you can palm the cluster of buttons on the right side and it'll just engage the horn. But yes, I too am wondering when the "air-bag horn" will be enabled.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Anyone here have a delivery scheduled in the next 2-3 weeks?
  36. S

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Soooo it's July 1... anyone here have inside info on the MX line at Fremont? Interested in hearing if there's a "Start of quarter production pause" as many have predicted (presumably for matrix lights and perhaps other changes).
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    I wish BMW made a decent EV (but they don't, at least not yet).
  38. S

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    I imagine the last builds at EoQ all go to orders close to the factory. If they get put on a truck they'll miss the earnings for Q2.
  39. S

    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    It would be in-line with the Sawyer Merritt rumor, but that rumor is months old now. Still, I'll be paying very close attention to any deliveries of July builds coming up.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    This is rather absurd that you even had to ask to see the interior before accepting. It also shows how inconsistent these Tesla delivery centers are. The "no dealer" model was supposed to solve this, but in a lot of ways it really does feel like visiting a traditional dealer (there are good ones...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    What about existing orders (pre-delivered)? I don't see it.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Seems like about now is the time to start looking out for matrix headlights again. At least after we start getting fresh builds in the new quarter, especially if there is a temporary production halt.

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