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  1. M

    FSD Beta 10.69

    The next one will be 10.420 and can go On forever before 11 lol
  2. M

    FSD Beta 10.69

    My local freeway was under construction during the previous map release, so it’s been tagged as a 55mph speed limit on my Tesla since then. Been super annoying trying to use AP/NoA lol
  3. M

    FSD Beta 10.13

    It's not common, but occassionally usually on accident, if you brake too late for a light or you creep into a blind intersection to realize a car is coming fast and you've pulled your nose out too far, i have seen people reverse a little in these instances
  4. M

    Elon: FSD Beta tweets

    ...for one turn😂 Wake me up when the march of 9s begins for the other trillions of scenarios
  5. M

    FSD Beta 10.13

    Yea highway PB has improved a lot in the last few months on AP. I rarely get them either. (FSD Beta city streets still has loads of PB events though)
  6. M

    Elon: FSD Beta tweets

    It's expected for threads to go off topic when 10.13 (the main topic) has been coming next week for the past 6 weeks lol😂
  7. M

    Elon: FSD Beta tweets

    Honestly I think basic production AP stack is good enough to be L3 if Elon and his AP team implemented some hand off mechanism for anything unexpected like certain weather conditions, and maybe set some minor restrictions like speed < 70mph, no lane changes, and staying out of merging lane. But...
  8. M

    Elon: FSD Beta tweets

    You’re trying to change your argument. This whole thing started because you have been trying to incorrectly explain L4 vs L5 in terms of whether they need pedals or not. See your quote below. This is wrong because a geofenced AV would be L4 and does not need steering or pedals.
  9. M

    FSD Beta 10.13

    Great…FSD Beta is junk in CA also. So I guess we should temper our expectations? Lol
  10. M

    Elon: FSD Beta tweets

    You’re still not getting it. An L4 robotaxi may drive perfectly but be limited to a city like San Francisco. If it drives perfectly without issues, but has geofenced borders, that’s L4. It wouldn’t need steering wheel or controls. It can’t get itself into a situation that needs override.
  11. M

    FSD Beta Videos (and questions for FSD Beta drivers)

    Honestly I believe that video is valuable. If I had never used FSD beta and only watched wholemars videos, I would be lulled into a false sense of security and likely have a far more fatal accident. Thanks to videos like this, I know to be careful when using FSD in certain instances and...
  12. M

    FSD Beta 10.13

    There should be enough Man power to review/respond to more than 1 use case (Chuck’s ULT). Without engagement from the FSD team and watching my intersections fail update after update for the past 12 months and 10 updates doesn’t instill too much confidence that they’re doing anything about my...
  13. M

    Elon: FSD Beta tweets

    Complex right turns will continue to be 💩I guess! Seems we’ll have to wait another few months for that 🔥update
  14. M

    Elon: FSD Beta tweets

    yes i get annoyed when uber drivers stay in slow lanes when traffic is moving fast in another lane. For instance, NoA will move into the right exit lane 2+ miles before freeway exit. That means that you're going to drive through merge lanes for other exits, and gosh forbid there's another car...
  15. M

    Elon: FSD Beta tweets

    Sure lol, i'll wager a $100 charity donation that 10.13 will NOT exceed 95% success rate on Chuck's turn. Has anyone forgotten that the 10.12 release notes had like a whole page of bullet points related to ULT related improvements, yet in my opinion and in Chucks tests, it got WORSE lol
  16. M

    Elon: FSD Beta tweets

    I have both an R1T and Model 3 with FSD Beta. I am still curious where FSD is heading and with my car being worth so much more than I paid, i'm not too worried about holding it for a while longer lol. But I'm in the same boat as you, NoA does not meet my expectations, in fact i keep lane change...
  17. M

    Elon: FSD Beta tweets

    Your expectations are ridiculously high…I’m sorry for the inevitable disappointment you will face when 10.13 turns out to be an incremental improvement with an equal number of regressions like every 10.x build so far
  18. M

    Q2 earnings report: 35 million miles driven on FSD Beta

    I’ve been using it less and less. Their graph makes it look like the mileage is consistent. I would expect a drop off once the novelty wears off.
  19. M

    Karpathy leaves - what's next for AP/FSD?

    Yea sounds like they just want people to forget that FSD was supposed to be robotaxi-lite and was just supervised Driver assistance the whole time! It kinda pisses me off, but whatever my fault for supporting Elon’s kickstarter
  20. M

    Karpathy leaves - what's next for AP/FSD?

    sounded like a joke lol. You have to remember FSD City streets is an L2 application. It will be "complete" on HW3. There are way too many cars out there with FSD for Tesla to agree to retrofit all of them to HW4
  21. M

    Elon: FSD Beta tweets

    How many times will the average Tesla owner re-pay for FSD on their new cars by then 😂
  22. M

    FSD Beta 10.13

    Safety score imo is very important given the risky behavior of FSD beta. I know a couple reckless drivers that have paid for FSD but can’t get into the beta because they have safety scores in the 70-80s and have no clue how to improve. And tbh I’m glad they aren’t in it lol
  23. M

    Tesla BEV Competition Developments

    Per the article you sent, the i4 has a faster 1/4 mile trap speed and 50-70 time. The reason m3p numbers are all over the place is because of things like preconditioning, charge level, etc…if You can make sure your battery is warm enough and close to 100%, it’s possible to knock a quick 0-30...
  24. M

    Tesla BEV Competition Developments

    Tesla range estimates are not realistic. Whereas bmw seems to be much closer to reality. You can see edmunds for a real range comparison. i4 m50 had more real world range than m3p in fact. Also 0-60 on m3p is with rollout while i4 m50i is without, so the on-paper number is very close...
  25. M

    New upgrade available in my app. Enhanced auto pilot for $6k. Wish they would offer accel boost for m3p.

    This is the problem. The law is set up like how you state with low speed limits on large smooth highways with powerful cars and big variances between cars going 85+ and cars doing the speed limit of 65, where the safest way is to just have all drivers drive at the natural speed of traffic...
  26. M

    Seriously, why does Elon feel the need to lie about even short-term fsd beta timelines.

    The 4680 model Y is 70kWh with 279 range and the 2170 model Y is 82kWh with 326 miles. So not only is the battery smaller, the weight and efficiency is exactly the same as the LR, so the 4680 is heavier per kw. I don’t remember what the initial promises were, but forget improvements, they have...
  27. M

    Autonomous Car Progress

    With the torque-based steering nag, it was very easy to be distracted while using AP. Ever since they enabled the camera monitoring, it has become very difficult to fool the system. But that being said, I’ve noticed, if you stare straight without turning your head significantly, the steering...
  28. M

    FSD Beta 10.12

    Sigh…ULT improvements were in 10.12 and almost nothing changed 😞. I think 10.13 will be focused on being able to drive without map data or without internet or something
  29. M

    Seriously. What is your max amount you'd pay for EAP?

    EAP included basic autopilot for $5k back then. They raised the price of the car by $3k when they made basic autopilot standard so technically the rest of the EAP feature set should be worth $2k at most.
  30. M

    Elon: FSD Beta tweets

    Potholes maybe?
  31. M

    Seriously. What is your max amount you'd pay for EAP?

    If this isn’t shill language I don’t know what is…
  32. M

    Seriously. What is your max amount you'd pay for EAP?

    And of course…Tesla just re-released EAP for $6k. 😂
  33. M

    Elon: FSD Beta tweets

    If you’re talking about FSD Beta maybe I’d agree that it drives pretty badly. But highway autopilot is just fine imo. It’s not perfect, but for the most part I’m very comfortable with it on and doing it’s thing.
  34. M

    I'm In Seattle And As a Die Hard Tesla Fan, I am Not Sold On FSD Beta Experience. (Been On Beta since it rolled out to Public). Thoughts?

    i live in SF suburbs and honestly it's still not great. I also don't get how some people have so many intervention free drives. I have a ton of them. 12.2 phantom brakes a lot in the middle of intersections and I think this is probably one of the worst updates where i'm always pushing the...
  35. M

    Seriously. What is your max amount you'd pay for EAP?

    man...a netflix subscription amount for auto lane change? It's nice but...that's a lot of change!
  36. M

    Seriously. What is your max amount you'd pay for EAP?

    Lol agreed. I think most people who say they would pay $4k/$5k/$6k haven’t used any EAP/FSD features before to realize most of it is useless other than ALC.
  37. M

    Elon: FSD Beta tweets

    He said FSDb hasn't attempted to hit another car or curb a wheel. I think FSDb does risky stuff like that all the time...
  38. M

    Elon: FSD Beta tweets

    So you're saying FSD Beta is flawless you've never had a safety disengagement since using it? Majority of FSD Beta users would find that very hard to believe
  39. M

    Elon: FSD Beta tweets

    Except humans can be relied on to focus properly. At least for L2...since L3 doesn't exist. Tesla themselves claim drivers on Autopilot (L2) have less accidents than drivers without. We can argue the merits of their testing, but with many other manufacturers offering L2 highway lane centering...
  40. M

    Elon: FSD Beta tweets

    There would be no reason to redefine SAE levels just because Tesla can’t do FSD Beta successfully in those tiers. While L2 and L3 may not be impractical for AVs, they’re well-defined for limited scope systems. L2 highway assist features are available on many cars, and L3 seems to be coming...
  41. M

    Will Mercedes jump to level 3 before Tesla? Looks like it.

    Aren’t you more or less aware of how the brake lights work at this point? Not sure why you would want to see them every time. I know They come on when you’re slowing down. Good enough for me lol
  42. M

    Will Mercedes jump to level 3 before Tesla? Looks like it.

    Yea that's true, and totally BS imo, and then you're required to pay extra to have uninsured motorist insurance to cover for those people that just run away. I assume Mercedes will cover in those instances. Either use cameras to capture plate info, dashcam footage, etc... If they don't, how can...
  43. M

    Will Mercedes jump to level 3 before Tesla? Looks like it.

    The only one saying they were going to test for 5 minutes was you lol. Of course they will test diligently so they can make sure the system is safe and not have to pay out with at-fault accidents all the time.
  44. M

    Data likely shows Teslas on Autopilot crash more than rivals

    I’m almost 100% sure they’re not using results of FSD Beta. The production FSD build uses the same highway AP stack as basic AP, and frankly TACC uses the same accelerate/braking logic too. Their highway performance would all be identical.
  45. M

    Will Mercedes jump to level 3 before Tesla? Looks like it.

    Why would Mercedes cover liability for accidents where they are not at-fault? The at-fault driver’s insurance would cover in that case.
  46. M

    Elon: FSD Beta tweets

    Right? Lol I think you can safely assume 100% chance of this coming AFTER summer
  47. M

    Elon: FSD Beta tweets

    You haven’t been fooled enough by Elon promises? 🤣
  48. M

    FSD Beta 10.12

    My experience lines up with yours almost 100%. Definitely more skittish and lot more quick steering jerkiness compared to previous versions. I also find it hesitates a lot in the middle of intersections, so I have to use the gas just to push it through. The only major improvement I can see is...
  49. M

    FSD Beta 10.12

    Im surprised they are going fully wide with 12.2 even with the red wheel of death and reports of wrongful strikeouts. But my car's just downloading it too now...
  50. M

    FSD Beta Videos (and questions for FSD Beta drivers)

    This is already fixed imo in FSD Beta. This continues to be an issue in regular AP though

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