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    Weird buzzing sound from Plaid after updating to 2022.24.6

    I didn't think the actual range in the Taycan was that different. The rated range is absurdly low. But, the larger battery Taycan is 93 kwhr. The refresh S is under 100 kwhr. I'd guess the real range is not that different. I thought I saw a test that showed that too. I did feel like the...
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    Weird buzzing sound from Plaid after updating to 2022.24.6

    What version did you update to?
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    Weird buzzing sound from Plaid after updating to 2022.24.6

    Yeah. But what else is there that is as fast? I only really care about fast EVs. Taycan is slower and $200k once optioned. Lucid air sapphire is interesting, but $250k
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    Weird buzzing sound from Plaid after updating to 2022.24.6

    You might be new here.... We've already dealt with a "cooing" rear view mirror, buzzing yoke, and other annoying noise issues on this car due to bad software. 😂 I've been around long enough to remember when there was a software upgrade that intentionally took away 50 HP from my P90DL Model S...
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    Plaid Vibration around 38-42MPH....

    Yup. Lucky unicorn!
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    Extension cords: NEMA 14-30, 10-30, 6-50, or 6-20...

    Ahh good point! That is one situation I hadn't thought about. In that case, the adapter from NEMA 14-30P to 10-30R could be fixed to run hot hot and ground to the UMC (omitting the neutral), and it would be fine. Not good for a dryer, but fine for the UMC, since it never uses the neutral anyway.
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    Plaid Vibration around 38-42MPH....

    It's the same with front bias. It doesn't seem to be about sync. It's just the front drive unit under light load causing vibration.
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    Plaid center console light turns off when fully opened?

    Yeah I don't know why they replaced the entire console in mine. I gave them the part number for the upper sliding part. I ended up with one with broken cup holders and another one with screws drilled through the side into the bottom part of the console cubby.
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    Weird buzzing sound from Plaid after updating to 2022.24.6

    True. I don't see why they couldn't push an old software. But, they'd have to figure out which of the many other MCUs would also need to be downgraded to be compatible. And the existing old software release package might not have those firmwares in it, since they weren't changed as a part of the...
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    Weird buzzing sound from Plaid after updating to 2022.24.6

    Rolling back is probably too hard. You have to flash a lot of other microcontrollers and test all of that before allowing the downgrade to go out. They could spin up a "new" release with old code, but it would still require testing. Easier should be fixing the bug and getting it out fast.
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    Plaid center console light turns off when fully opened?

    I'd recommend giving up. I've had two new consoles installed. Both had the light wrong and both were more broken then the one I originally had. I'm going back again for a third new console...
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    Weird buzzing sound from Plaid after updating to 2022.24.6

    Probably negligible on the battery. The bigger question is what is making the noise and is it wearing out because of it? If it's a solenoid being driven with a high frequency, it will wear out quickly. If it is from the pedestrian warning speaker, then no big deal and there are no hardware...
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    Weird buzzing sound from Plaid after updating to 2022.24.6

    I'll take a look at my Plaid that doesn't have the noise, but degradation can't really be measured without some deep discharges, so it might be just coincidence. Also, is this noise only on the S/X and not the 3/Y?
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    Model S Plaid - One Year Later

    Skip the 2021 and 2022 models. Maybe 2023 they will fix the issues...
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    Extension cords: NEMA 14-30, 10-30, 6-50, or 6-20...

    It's unsafe with a dryer because dryers have 120V motors and 240V heating elements. So, they intentionally pass current through the neutral. Thus, if the neutral breaks, you get 240V on the body of the dryer and you die. EV charging never passes current through the neutral or ground. It tests...
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    Weird buzzing sound from Plaid after updating to 2022.24.6

    Well, good thing I'm on 2022.20.17. I'll make sure not to upgrade. I thought I saw an article in the news about this. Is it fixed on a future release or just pending a fix?
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    Extension cords: NEMA 14-30, 10-30, 6-50, or 6-20...

    Also bought this adapter for $13.99 to plug my 10-30 extension into 14-30 outlets. It seems very well made. I can't believe it is this inexpensive. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08QR5KZ1W Disclaimer: this is totally an unsafe cord for use with dryers and shouldn't be used for dryers. If you have a...
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    Plaid Vibration around 38-42MPH....

    Ditto for me. Track mode and rear bias makes the vibration disappear completely.
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    Wiki 2021+ Model S Refresh - Missing/Incomplete Software Features

    Yeah, it's annoying and it seems like it just got worse in the recent update. It nags you in less than a few seconds if you even pick up your phone while using regular AP on the highway. So, it makes regular AP more annoying. I'm ready to downgrade just for that reason. But, I guess you have to...
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    MASTER THREAD: Powering house or other things with Model 3

    Sure, emergency use is totally different. I'd pay a lot per kwhr to keep my house running during a power outage. But for routine V2G, I think basing the cost on 1000 cycles makes some sense. You won't want to keep the battery in your car after it degrades to <80% of the original. Maybe you...
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    "Refreshed" Model S model VIBRATION tracking and information thread!!!

    Well, it'd be easy to fix in software, if they ever cared to. It's clearly fixable in software.
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    MASTER THREAD: Powering house or other things with Model 3

    It makes sense, though. The high end cars for the foreseeable future won't have LFP, since they focus on energy density and power density, where NCA beats LFP. I don't understand the economics of V2G. $25k battery with 1000 cycles = $25 / cycle. 100 kwhr battery means $0.25 per kwhr. Add in...
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    Plaid Vibration around 38-42MPH....

    I guess that is possible, though I don't understand why it didn't do it when our cars were delivered, but started vibrating over time. Nor why replacing the half shafts makes it go away for a while and then come back. But, I agree, moving the power to the rear motor only using track mode...
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    MASTER THREAD: Powering house or other things with Model 3

    Agreed. Even if it wasn't a warranty issue, the battery is too expensive and has too few cycles to make any sense for use in v2g. The only case that makes sense is for emergency power. Now, the LFP model 3/Y cars should be different and it could make sense to do v2g since that battery should...
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    Extension cords: NEMA 14-30, 10-30, 6-50, or 6-20...

    Update: I bought the 50ft NEMA 10-30 extension. It was $108 before tax. It's actually far cheaper than buying 50ft of 10/3 wire at the hardware store. I'm using it now. It seems to be high quality, no complaints on the cord. It's still quite thick and heavy. It's a bigger jump up from 12/3 than...
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    MASTER THREAD: Powering house or other things with Model 3

    It would make a lot of sense to use LFP in the powerwall, rather than more expensive NCA chemistry. NCA in a powerwall wouldn't make any sense. There's no need for high power to weight and high capacity to weight.
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    Wiki Mega-consolidated delivery quality issues thread and checklist

    I still had it as of 6/30/22 when they replaced my yoke. Don't know past then. The Yoke buzz was temporarily fixed after the 2022.12.1 and 2022.12.3.1 updates, but then it returns after 1-2 days. I still had the buzz on 2022.12.3.20 as well. But, it's possible it was fixed in a later update. I...
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    Wiki Mega-consolidated delivery quality issues thread and checklist

    No, it shouldn't look like that. Might be easily fixable, though, by removing and reinstalling or replacing the bumper.
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    Wiki Mega-consolidated delivery quality issues thread and checklist

    Interesting. It wasn't fixed for me until they replaced my yoke earlier this year. It got a little bit quieter with an update, and a few updates it went away entirely for a day or two, but the buzzing kept coming back. But I suspected it could be fixed in software. Either way, the later...
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    Wiki Mega-consolidated delivery quality issues thread and checklist

    How old is it? Ask for the build date. The later ones do have more things fixed, like the buzzing yoke, new headlamps and tail lamps, etc. They all still have the vibrating half shafts, and there's no fix for that.
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    (21 Plaid) Something is popping when my wheel turns or the car moves at low speeds.

    Bummer. Sorry to hear it. I thought there was hope for my squeaky suspension too!
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    Extension cords: NEMA 14-30, 10-30, 6-50, or 6-20...

    Some quick googling suggests that using a neon lamp with resistor sized for 120V on 240V will just make the neon light much brighter and it will burn out sooner, but other than that, probably not much difference. As long as the resistor is large enough to handle a bit of extra heat, it should be...
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    Plaid Vibration around 38-42MPH....

    So, the lowered front and normal rear was better than lowering all around? And do you think the rear camber arms will have any effect on vibration? I was assuming only front suspension parts would make a difference.
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    Plaid Vibration around 38-42MPH....

    I suspect normal tesla quality stuff. Seems like something isn't greased in a bushing. The service center can't seem to fix it, so I think I'm just going to start spraying silicone lube on stuff until the squeak goes away, then tell them what part is squeaking to replace.
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    Extension cords: NEMA 14-30, 10-30, 6-50, or 6-20...

    Even with 10ga, the plugs are only rated for 16A continuous, so I wouldn't exceed that. I've thought about using a cable like that, since I already have one. But, I don't know if the built-in neon light is going to handle 240V when it is designed for 120V. IT might burn out.
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    Plaid Vibration around 38-42MPH....

    Yeah, though I'd guess that lowering the front more would have more impact on reducing the vibration. The other interesting thing to try would be the new MPP upper control arms or bearings. I wonder if those parts plus a full alignment would eliminate the vibration.
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    Plaid Vibration around 38-42MPH....

    No, unfortunately not! My suspension started squeaking, so I took the links out to go in for service. 2-3 visits later, they still haven't fixed the squeak. I feel like I can't put them back on until they fix the squeak. I want to just get the squeaking resolved, go back to the links, and be...
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    Plaid Vibration around 38-42MPH....

    It seemed like 5mm was the default lowering setting that people recommended as not very low, but still low enough. I might try 6mm next time to further reduce / eliminate the vibration, but it is kind of a pain to change the settings.
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    Extension cords: NEMA 14-30, 10-30, 6-50, or 6-20...

    Or I could do the sketchiest option, this adapter: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078PHY3ZJ/ and a 120V extension cable and NEMA 5-15 or 5-20 UMC plug. Totally sketchy, but really no different than a 6-20 extension cable. The UMC doesn't care about the voltage. The plugs only set the...
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    Plaid Vibration around 38-42MPH....

    It does require more force than expected to remove and reinstall the stock links. I thought I was going to break something, but didn't. I think I removed the fixed end first, then the end from the sensor. I've used a pair a pliers to help pry them off a bit, while holding the end from the sensor...
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    Extension cords: NEMA 14-30, 10-30, 6-50, or 6-20...

    That's quite nice! https://qccharge.com/collections/jdapter-stub%E2%84%A2-tesla-station-adapter/products/jdapter-stub?variant=31938567995482
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    Extension cords: NEMA 14-30, 10-30, 6-50, or 6-20...

    Yes, sorry to not be clear. I was only planning on buying one of these extension cables and getting adapters for 10-30 and 14-30 outlets. The question is which is best... :)
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    Extension cords: NEMA 14-30, 10-30, 6-50, or 6-20...

    I'd like to retire my NEMA 14-50 extension cable. It's too short (15 ft) and too heavy, since it has four 6 gauge wires. It's overkill for charging at dryer outlets at 16A to 24A. So, I'm weighing what to get next. My primary use will be at a NEMA 10-30 dryer outlet, with some occasional NEMA...
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    Mobile Connectors back in stock on Tesla Website

    And it includes the 14-50! For $200. That's great.
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    Plaid Vibration around 38-42MPH....

    It would be easily fixable in software, but we'd lose some range and people would complain.
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    (21 Plaid) Something is popping when my wheel turns or the car moves at low speeds.

    Experienced tech at Tesla? They're all gone. Driven away.
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    Wiki Mega-consolidated delivery quality issues thread and checklist

    Well, I'm not anywhere near done either... So yeah. Three major things left. 1. New center console for working lights / not damaged from previous install 2. Fix the squeak in my driver's front suspension (They can't seem to find a cause / don't want to fix). 3. Fix the 40-50 mph vibrations...
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    Wiki Mega-consolidated delivery quality issues thread and checklist

    Yup. Usually a 2 service minimum. One visit to look at the car and verify what I already told them in the app, then they will actually order the parts, and then attempt to fix it on the second service. Then the reality is that they will break something during the second service, and have to...
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    FSD Beta 10.69

    I was a vertical video hater until I had a child. It is actually easier to film kids with vertical video because you don't have to step way back to get them in frame. But, I also agree you aren't losing anything by filming horizontally, since you can't display 4k vertical video anywhere...
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    (21 Plaid) Something is popping when my wheel turns or the car moves at low speeds.

    I've got a different creaking over bumps at slow speeds that the SC can't / won't fix. Annoying.

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