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    Resale Value Guarantee

    So here is my latest Tesla drama. Since taking possession of my Model S in October, 2015, I have taken the car in 9 times! 8 of those times I had requested they service the vehicle in addition to performing the things that needed repairing. That means on average the car was being effectively...
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    Open letter to Mrs Carrie Lam - Support for electric vehicles in Hong Kong

    I can see an arbitrage here. If you own a 6 year old cheap car and had it for 3 years, you go and buy a Tesla and get a 250k discount. Register the car, and then sell it immediately for its market price without driving a single kilometer and make a handsome profit.
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    Better Way For HK Govt to do FRT

    That's what happens when you go from selling several thousand vehicles a year to less than 100.
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    Resale Value Guarantee

    Not yet but I plan on doing so this October. Plan on using the money to buy a properly built car.
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    Better Way For HK Govt to do FRT

    There is a lot of controversy over the decision the government made on FRT on Electric Vehicles - they clawed this back on the argument on congestion. But I actually think the government should put new vehicles into different bands based on emmissions. The current FRT system works like this...
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    Apple CarPlay & Android Auto

    I own a Tesla Model S (and live in Hong Kong). In Hong Kong, spotify is available to use on the Model S. Unfortunately, it is far from reliable and 50% of the time, it just won't play any music. I frequently need to reboot the system for it to work - even then it hardly does. When the...
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    Will the crony HK Gov reverse idiotic FRT decision?

    They won't change the decision. If anything they may reduce the waiver cap again. The FRT in my opinion should be formulated on emissions rather purely value (they use engine displacement for the licence fee). It should be a 50/50 weight based on CO2 and NOx emmissions per 100km. In the...
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    Wife's new car = ICE thanks to FRT

    The FRT decision has nothing to do with the idea of reducing congestion. It has everything to do with lost revenue. Effectively for every 700k Tesla, they were forgoing ~700k of tax revenue. If the average selling price of an EV eventually is around 350k (pre-tax), that would be ~300k in lost...
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    Relocating to UK - take Tesla with??

    I think you would need to pay some form of FRT which may mean buying one here in the used market is cheaper than bringing yours over. Not exactly sure, but that would be my gut feel.
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    So glad RHD model 3 won't be until 2019

    Mark my words - Buying the first RHD Model 3s is a recipe for DISASTER. Given their horrid reputation for quality - if you do decide to buy one, wait until 2020 when they would have ironed out all the manufacturing bugs.
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    Spotify problem - cannot log in as Tesla user after recent Tesla software upgrade

    Almost given up using Spotify in the Tesla. Works 50% of the time now. Just like most things with Tesla.
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    Spotify Tesla Account not working

    Spotify was never 100% reliable in my Tesla but since the latest software update, it hardly ever works. I don't think Tesla puts a lot of effort collaborating with Spotify to make this thing work. There are rumors that Tesla will have its own media streaming app - which I hope is not the case...
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    Wife's new car = ICE thanks to FRT

    I paid HK$680k for Model S 70D in October 2015. A similarly spec Telsar would now cost over HK$1.1m. At 680k it seemed like a bargain as it was roughly the cost of a bottom of the range E class and when you consider the guaranteed buy back price and lower running costs - it was cheaper to own...
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    Autotall not working - please help

    Can someone please show me a photo of how they installed the sticker autotoll on their model S? I had a Tesla guy install the first one and it didn't work. I have a replacement and I am scared of where to put it because I am hearing conflicting reports. If I put it in the bottom right hand...
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    Autotall not working - please help

    Hi everyone, After several years of procrastination, I finally registered for Autotoll. I was aware that due to the thickness of the Tesla Model S windscreen, you were supposed to get this installed in the nose of the car. However, Autotoll issued me with a a sticker. I gave it to Tesla and...
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    2017 FRT Renewal

    Long term I 100% agree that its inevitable that EVs take over even if there are zero subsidies, waivers etc compared to regular ICE vehicles. A lot of the research I have done suggests that in the next decade, EVs will be competitive with ICEs even at price points below US$40,000 and offer...
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    2017 FRT Renewal

    This is quite sad especially since Hong Kong clearly has a roadside pollution problem. The change in FRT laws is quite drastic as it effectively increases the price of a Tesla by around 70% on average. I thought they would have phased this in over time - i.e you only get 50-75% of the...
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    2017 FRT Renewal

    So in the competitive market place in HK, the Model S goes from competing with an E class to competing with an S class or Panamera type of vehicle. The Model 3 will compete directly with a 3 series. US$45,000 equates to ~HK$475,000 (via the FRT tax calculations etc) or HK$400,000 for a 40k...
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    2017 FRT Renewal

    Even though most Tesla owners (including myself) stand to benefit financially by this decision, I think its the wrong move. However, just for some context here. Most governments around the world have some form of EV subsidy - in North America that is around US$7,000 for instance. While...
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    2017 FRT Renewal

    WOW! So I paid 685k for my Model S 70D in Oct 2015 and after March 31, the same car would cost close to HK$1.2m!!!! Wow, could I actually MAKE money if I resell this car this year?! Amazing.
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    Supercharging Idling Fee

    I don't have a problem with the surcharge - I think its a good idea. Those saying that its not enough, should remember that 1 hour is HK$186 - not exactly pocket change. That would be more than double the price it would cost to charge the car using spot electricity prices in HK. The...
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    2017 FRT Renewal

    Any updates on this? I understand there will be a key decision made by March this year on whether to extend the FRT exemption or change it somewhat.
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    Would you buy another Tesla?

    Everyone buys Tesla's because of the driving experience - primarily. The thing is the competition is catching up. Jaguar will sell the I-Pace all electric EV in 2018 and the specs are very similar to the Model X without the nonsense doors. VW will have the ID concept in production by 2020...
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    Would you buy another Tesla?

    Well, supposedly, their quality keeps getting better all of the time. Perhaps I just had bad luck with mine and you will only have some small issues. But just be prepared, because almost everyone I know who has a Tesla has had to send it to the service centre at least once within the first 3...
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    Would you buy another Tesla?

    Hi everyone, I raise this question to get a gauge with the level of customer satisfaction. Customer satisfaction levels are typically high in North America, but I have a suspicion it may be much lower in Hong Kong due to service issues. Service issues matter more for a Tesla compared to...
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    Tesla OS 8 Update

    I don't have autopilot so no comments on that feature. However, I do like the new user interface. An added bonus is with the Music app. Spotify integration is better and I also noticed that my USB stick music is better organized too. Finally, a software upgrade that I actually like.
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    2017 FRT Renewal

    Anyone heard any updates on this? I know a couple of guys who may be interested to buy a Tesla but it may be risky if the delivery is post March 2017 and they have to pay much more than they expected based on some form of FRT being introduced for EVs.
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    Model S60 for Hong Kong use

    Answer to all this is "depends". However, I think for 60kwh, I would probably suggest making sure you can charge at home. Other thing is, if the 60kwh model is basically using a 70kwh battery, you could probably charge it to 100% which would mean that its range would not be too different to...
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    Questions for Drivers of Teslas

    1) Tesla car reviews. Performance, cost of ownership in HK given high gas prices, zero FRT, resale guarantee program. 2) Yes. Although was becoming more aware at the time of researching the purchase. Always looking at ways to clean up the environment so that my kids live in a better world...
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    Restrictions on Hong Kong Model S spec

    I think Tesla is an easy target. If the car did not have software updates, it would still be there. Most cars have their software (if they even have software) updated when you do a service. So someone at the Transport department needs to come up with these rules to justify their existence...
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    Restrictions on Hong Kong Model S spec

    Having a pretty lady sitting next to you is distracting too but they are not banning that.
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    Restrictions on Hong Kong Model S spec

    This is strange to say the least. Best thing to do is simply not update the software. However, in my case that may not be an option given that my car is at the service center - (as per usual)
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    Model S in service since 4/28, nobody is picking up

    Well, I had a feeling it would take time so I told them on March 7 I wanted things fixed but wouldn't take it in until I got a loaner. That meant I had to wait 10 weeks to bring it in in order to get the loaner (May 26). Its been there for 12 days. However, they haven't even LOOKED at it yet...
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    Model S in service since 4/28, nobody is picking up

    Tesla is turning me into a stalker. I tried ALL day to talk to a technician. Called 40 times! Left 8 messages. I am really starting to regret getting this car. No-one should have to go through this. No-one. Tesla under fire for poor after-sales service
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    HK: Model X Deposit date - confirmation - Sequence # - expected delivery

    Based on some early reliability reports, I would be worried about the Model X's build quality. Maybe its best to wait for the 2018 production year when at least half of the bugs are fixed.
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    Annoying AC noise and annoying service centre

    Owning a Model S is an anxious experience. Constantly worried what will be faulty next, knowing it will take a LONG time to fix if there is a problem which there will almost certainly will.
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    Model S in service since 4/28, nobody is picking up

    So another service center experience to share: On March 7, I contacted Tesla to say that there was a new headliner noise issue and they needed to fix one or two other minor things (remember this is a car I took delivery in November 2015). I said I wouldn't take the appointment unless they...
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    Anyone else experiencing Headliner noise issues?

    Shortly after delivery of my car in Late October last year, we noticed a rattling noise coming from the headliner close to the front driver visor area. We took it back several times and eventually they fixed it. Only shortly after the noise came back but in a different area - headliner above...
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    2017 FRT Renewal

    If the government "phases in" a gradual increase in FRT for EVs, it would still be ok for demand as people would assume higher re-sale values. Having said that, its probably better they don't touch it until the penetration gets to a meaningful level.
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    Model S in service since 4/28, nobody is picking up

    This is an all too common occurrence. Based on my experience, the more you complain and harass them, the more likely they will be responsive and give you a loaner car. From now on, I refuse to take the car in unless I know I am getting a loaner and they come to my house to pick up the car. I...
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    2017 FRT Renewal

    If I had to take a wild guess, the HK government would not totally get rid of the FRT waiver but lower it. i.e they may apply a %age of what the FRT would have been for a similar vehicle in value. Plucking figures out the air....25-50% of the payable FRT.
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    Meeting Tesla HK Bus Development Mgr on May 13.......

    Thanks for your suggestions. On what you mentioned regarding software, I think that should be fairly easy given that Tesla would have access to all of the data. If they had a Valet type service, there could be information available on either your mobile app or on the car's central screen as...
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    Misleading SCMP Article

    The debate will go on and on and no doubt many in the government are using every possible excuse to lower the exception on FRT. One other thing I would like to throw into the mix. I was speaking to a NZ utility company last week. Funnily enough his numbers on NZ are similar to the numbers I...
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    Meeting Tesla HK Bus Development Mgr on May 13.......

    Yes I would be curious as to what the "constraints" would be. Vehicle car wash services in malls have been doing valet type service for years so I struggle to see what the issue would be. There would be more constraints in getting approval to build more supercharging parking spots at existing...
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    Meeting Tesla HK Bus Development Mgr on May 13.......

    Hi everyone, I am meeting Tesla's business development manager - Mr Julian de Jonquieres for a group Lunch on May 13. Julian is responsible for building partnerships with government, companies and utilities that make the ownership of electric vehicles as convenient as possible for Tesla...
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    Model 3 Battery Speculation

    Sorry to continue US$7,500 which = 21% of retail price. Hence I think 50kwh makes sense from a range and cost perspective
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    Model 3 Battery Speculation

    Based on size, weight and efficiency, my guess is that the base battery would be 50kWh. When Tesla sold the S70, pack cost was US$220/kWh = US$15,400 or 22% of the base retail price. By the time, Tesla sells base model 3, pack cost would US$150/kWh = Us
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    New Software Release?

    I don't have AP - so wouldn't apply to me so I don't know (although I highly doubt it would anyway given TD's attitude).
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    New Software Release?

    Here it is. Looks like mostly improvements to Spotify playback amongst other things like improved regen braking in low temperatures and allowing creep function to be factored into driver profiles.
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    New Software Release?

    Hi guys, I got a notification just now about a software update. I don't know what its about but its updating now. Anyone have any idea what it is? I am guessing they are bug fixes only.

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