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    Used Prices Softening?

    When I looked at used prices on the 2021/2022 (yoke models) in the past, they were essentially as much as buying new. Now it seems the used prices are softening a bit. Saw a 2021/yoke with about 10,000 miles for about $96,000 (I assume base model). That leaves the old trade off between cost...
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    Do I lawyer up?

    There is an argument that the agent you spoke to overrode the contract (how good an argument is another question). I don't know if it is worth the bother, but you could try a small claims action in NC. I don't know what the small claims limits are there. In some states it around a max of...
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    Got text from Tesla

    FWIW, telling me that I can have an S LR as early this Friday if I were willing to accept a different color (picked white) and different wheels (I chose 19"). I was not interested, but consistent with some other posts we have seen, it does suggest supply is loosening up a bit,which one would...
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    Well, that was fast

    Available or not, my delivery date has not been advanced. I wonder if it is a function of where one is in the country. Perhaps on the west coast it takes longer (Camas is a suburb of Portland, OR). I actually work in Baltimore, MD (it is complicated). I finally managed to wrangle a test...
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    Vinyl Wrap or Paint?

    Wow, Lee, that is even worse than I thought. I was guessing closer to 10, but can believe 20. I doubt if it is cheaper in Camas (though I actually spend part of the year in Baltimore). Nice looking cars, Gruiz, though a bit flashier than I would want.
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    Vinyl Wrap or Paint?

    I am waiting for delivery of a white S LR. I was not crazy about the Tesla colors other than red. Also, my preferred color (don't ask my why, hardly anyone else seems to like it) is a darker shade of green. I had hardly even heard of vinyl wraps before I began this process, but I gather it is...
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    Well, that was fast

    Wow, I put in an order on July 1 for the LR, have a delivery window of Dec-Feb, and have not heard back yet. I ordered a white one. I wonder if color plays a role. I suspect white is the most popular because of the cost. I plan to do a vinyl wrap.
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    For Dec-Feb Delivery Window...

    when can I expect to hear from Tesla? I currently plan to use Tesla for a car loan. I assume their algorithm will get in touch in plenty of time, but thought I should check. Any clue as to interest rates? Dankeschön.
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    Well, just put in my order for a S LR

    Sorry to be slow in responding. Actually, my delivery date has been something of a moving target. Currently, Tesla says Dec 22-Feb 23. I think, so far, I have seen 3 different delivery dates. I will believe it when I see the car....
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    Mustang E

    That is a good point, Masked. Rarely do we drive more than 500 miles, and there definitely would be a few stops, so maybe it is not that big of a deal, at least for a Tesla with good range. A drive we do a fair amount is to the beach and back, about 100 miles each way plus maybe 20 miles while...
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    Seats in 2022s?

    I believe that I test drove one before the redesign. There was a whole thread complaining about the seats at one point. Sounds like they are better now. But, right, a test drive is a must.
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    Seats in 2022s?

    Pre-Covid, I test drove the 3, but did not like the seats. Others have also complained about them. I gather that since then they have been changed some. Feedback on the 2022 seats?
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    Mustang E

    My realtor owns the Mustang Mach E in the higher performance version. He likes it quite a bit, but it is only really suitable for in-town driving. He said realistic range is around 200 miles. As a realtor who drives a lot, it is fine for him. He says what he saves in gas makes the car...
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    Well, just put in my order for a S LR

    Thanks for the heads up. Delivery has been advanced from when I ordered it. I wonder if the new dates apply to an order made with less favorable rates. I actually would prefer to get it in 2023 for logistical reasons. Let's see what happens.
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    Model S Plaid First Impressions: Ordering through Delivery

    Thanks for the feedback. Think I will stick with the LR for now.
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    Model S Plaid First Impressions: Ordering through Delivery

    Frustrating about the service, but at least it is only cosmetic and you had a heads up given all of the other complaints. And you picked a terrible color. Blue cars should be illegal. 😁 Actually, I don't like any of the Tesla colors. I was thinking about red, but one always hears that red...
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    Washington State: Model S Plaid/LR waiting room

    Agreed, though to be fair, so do most car dealerships. I have a 2009 Porsche Cayenne Turbo and at one point was offered around half of what I could sell it for. A few days ago I put in an order for a 2022 S LR. Tesla is saying March to June 2023. I plan to sell the Porsche around the...
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    Moving from Mercedes E450 to Model S

    I just ordered an S and the delivery dates are now March-June 2023, FWIW.
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    Well, just put in my order for a S LR

    Just put in my order for a S LR. Delivery jumped from Nov 22-Feb 23 to March 23 to June 23, part of the reason I put the order in. I am still keeping an eye out for used S's, but based on what I have seen, the used S's do not make economic sense. They could make timing sense for those who...
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    FWIW on handling

    I drove a then-current S pre-Covid, but did not like the handling. Recently, I test drove a 2021 Plaid, weird yoke, and all. The handling was much better. I doubt if it could go toe to toe with a Porsche Cayenne Turbo of the same vintage in the corners (I currently drive an older one), but it...
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    An honest review of the yoke

    Rare, but there have been a few times over the years when it might have. The few accidents I have had would not have been prevented by a horn. Still, the other day, I was changing lanes on the freeway, moving into the left lane. I looked to my left, no one there, went to change lanes, and...
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    T Sportline 360 Yoke Replacement: review in ~2 weeks

    The warranty issue would be a concern. Normally, in my experience, if one replaces a part of our car, only that part is taken out of warranty. I have an older Jeep GC. I bought it with a non-mileage limited warranty (not transferable and no longer offered). I added the "Old Man Emu" lift and...
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    T Sportline 360 Yoke Replacement: review in ~2 weeks

    I would not want to try to do the replacement myself. I wonder how easily one can find a competent person in this regard.
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    An honest review of the yoke

    Well if all of the other cars had regular steering wheels (highly likely), than the yoke skill set would be less practiced. One might, so to speak, mostly be practicing with a regular wheel, and perhaps never get sufficient, consistent practice with the yoke. I am speculating having never...
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    An honest review of the yoke

    The yoke was a dumb idea. But I hear that you get used to it. One review said he was going to sell the Plaid due to the yoke because he often drove other cars and thus had to often sort of relearn yoke driving.
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    Model S Plaid Lease Question (technical)

    Well, the dealer could be right. CA sales taxes (and fees, etc.) will apply to the new car that you buy. According to the internet, CA has a 7.5% sales tax. On a 150 K car that would be $11,250. Add in some fees and other costs, and most of your "profit" (I would not call this a true profit...
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    Used 2021

    Thanks. Considering long-range only, all of the used 2021s for around 90K were the old version. The newer version (and some older versions) were in the 100K plus range. I would buy new before paying that price.
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    Looking at used 2021 S

    Thanks again for the feedback. So it turns out that all of the used 2021's I could find selling for closer to 90K were the old style. The newer ones (and some of the older) tended to be in the 99K+ range. For that price, I would prefer to buy new. The wait is not a problem for me.
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    Looking at used 2021 S

    Thanks. The yoke seems like a good marker for newer versus older, no?
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    Looking at used 2021 S

    Whoops, put this in the wrong place. Sorry.o_O
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    Used 2021

    There are a few around. One in Fort Collins, CO was delivered in Dec. 2020, but as a 2021 model. The 0-60 time is slower, 3.7 seconds, rather than 3.1 seconds listed for the 2021-2022 normally. I guess I would rather have the faster time, but I am also wondering if the car has all of the 2021...
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    Looking at used 2021 S

    There are a few around. One in Fort Collins, CO was delivered in Dec. 2020, but as a 2021 model. The 0-60 time is slower, 3.7 seconds, rather than 3.1 seconds listed for the 2021-2022 normally. I guess I would rather have the faster time, but I am also wondering if the car has all of the 2021...
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    2021 Model S LR for sale, Midgnight grey, black interior

    FWIW, I have seen used S's going for quite a bit less. I am in the market but am on the west coast, so am not interested, but my sense is that you are $5000-$7500 high.
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    How often can I max charge?

    Thanks for the feedback. Is HPWC the same as 220?
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    How often can I max charge?

    I am pretty much decided to get a 2021 or newer S long range. I may buy used, because it looks like I can save $10,000-$20,000. I regularly make about a 225 mile day trip. As I understand it, that is less than 80% of the normal range, and I gather one should not normally charge over 80%...
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    To 19" or 21", that is the question

    Thanks for the feedback. I looked at 21” wheels on Tire Rack. With tires, mostly about the same price as Tesla’s. Forged wheels are still pricier. 20” could be a good idea. That is what I have on my Porsche Cayenne Turbo. Work well.
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    To 19" or 21", that is the question

    I have my eyes set on a new S, probably long range. 3.1 seconds 0-60 is fast enough (and until quite recently would have been thought of as crazy fast). How much better handling would I get out of the 21"versus the 19"? If I went with 19" summer tires versus, for the sake of argument, 21" all...
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    Better to buy or lease S due to tech improvements?

    Thanks for the feedback. When I crunched the numbers, buying was actually a bit cheaper than leasing on a monthly basis. As noted, I am normally someone who drives cars into the ground (I have a Jeep Grand Cherokee with 175,000 miles and a Porsche Cayenne Turbo with close to 90,000 miles). In...
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    Better to buy or lease S due to tech improvements?

    In the past, when I explored leasing or buying, leasing did not make sense. It was cheaper to buy, but hardwired into that analysis was that I was going to keep the car for a long time, not trade it in after, say, 3 years. I normally drive cars into the ground. But in comparison to ICE cars...
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    Lease and tax question

    I am not sure what you mean by tax exempt. Interest on a car loan is not normally deductible unless incurred as part of a business. Similarly, lease payments are not deductible unless incurred as part of a business. Hope that helps.
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    Handling S Long Range v Plaid

    Much appreciate the feedback. If I went with the LR, is it worth it to upgrade to the 21” tires?
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    Handling S Long Range v Plaid

    PS Does performance degrade with time? There was another thread where this was suggested. That could be a reason to prefer a Plaid.
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    Plaid Performance Degradation with Mileage

    Some of the posts suggest that the degradation affects performance, not just range. Is that common. Could be a reason to prefer a Plaid to a long range if S will be slower over time.
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    Handling S Long Range v Plaid

    Many thanks for the feedback. Is there any rule of thumb how the official 0-60 numbers translate to the real world, e.g. add a second or something. Obviously, I need to drive both, can afford both, but lean to the long range. At some point, probably now for the Plaid, cars can get too...
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    Handling S Long Range v Plaid

    Is stability control in track mode or something the Plaid has generally? I see you bought the Plaid. Besides the 0-60 time, what made you prefer the Plaid? Thanks.
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    Handling S Long Range v Plaid

    As best as I can tell from what I can find online, they should handle the same. Do I have that right. 0-60 in 3 seconds is already crazy fast (though that is admittedly with launch mode). It does not seem like the Plaid would be worth it when the long range is already crazy fast. Am I...
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    2020 Performance or new Plaid?

    I am a little surprised that owners of the 2020 do not get updates. That must kill resale values in time, no? What is to keep that from happening to the Plaid? One nice thing about Porsche is they take care of their customers.
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    Seats in Y?

    Thanks for the feedback. FWIW, I am 6', 180 lbs. Fairly long legs. I guess I will have to go sit in one.
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    2020 Performance or new Plaid?

    Thanks for the feedback. Not sounding good for the 2020. Glide when you say you drove the Taycan and the new model S was it the Plaid or the regular version? If I had a bigger pocketbook, I might go for the Taycan but in the trim I would prefer it is out of reach.

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