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  1. M

    2013 Brown S85 ($49K OBO): 52K miles, tech package, pano roof, tan leather, sound studio

    Only the original buyer can extend the warranty.
  2. M

    Tesla Model S CPO Website - Now Live

    In theory. But I still don't buy the argument that an EV depreciates only half as much as an ICE. If for no other reason than the rapid pace of innovation and improvement we will see. Until we see Consumer Reports data showing otherwise at the moment reliability is worse than average. They...
  3. M

    Tesla Model S CPO Website - Now Live

    I still think any attempt to set and artificially manipulate the price of the used car market will fail. Though we are all sold on the EV concept, not everyone else is. While most of us here are only open to buying only a full EV others will shop around in the premium car segment. If someone...
  4. M

    Tesla Model S CPO Website - Now Live

    As has been said before if their intent is to set the market prices for used cars they will fail in that endeavor. The market will pay for a used car what the market feels it is worth. Nothing more. Most people don't buy used cars to pay almost as much as for a new car. I doubt many of those...
  5. M

    Tesla Model S CPO Website - Now Live

    The only thing i find confusing is that they already had CPO cars being used as loaners before. I guess what this does is preclude them from bring sold. I wonder if they are on the verge of discontinuing the 70. - - - Updated - - - Yup. This is definitely bad timing for buying a CPO. There's...
  6. M

    Can you add carbon fiber trim as retrofit?

    So what would Tesla do if you told them someone broke into your car and stole all your trim? :tongue: Surely they'll have to sell you trim in that case :wink:
  7. M

    Annual service price increased by 50%

    So try what I suggested and let us know. Tell them you will do the key fob battery, wiper blades, and cabin air filter on your own, assuming you are able to do these simple things in your own. Ask them how much they will charge you for the brake and battery fluid flush along with the...
  8. M

    So, Just hung up from an unexpected and very interesting phone call from Tesla

    But seriously what difference does it make. This whole thread makes no sense. It is ostensibly based on someone who had expressed interest in purchasing a Model X and seems to be not serious about buying one when offered the opportunity to experience an X in person. What else is there? The...
  9. M

    Tesla Model S CPO Website - Now Live

    I think with current pricing for non D vehicles, potentially buyers might be better off just waiting for the D prices to come down some and just buy a D model. A bunch of Ds added today: https://www.teslainventory.com/
  10. M

    Tesla Model S CPO Website - Now Live

    This assumes someone looking to pay a certain fixed maximum amount will then increase their budget due to the lower priced CPO cars being removed from the CPO inventory. What may end up happening instead is that customers may just delay the purchase until prices are allowed to return to what...
  11. M

    Tesla Model S CPO Website - Now Live

    I agree completely and this is something I've said to people lamenting about the lower priced CPO cars essentially being removed from the inventory. At the end of the day the market will set the prices and if the vehicles are priced too high potentially buyers will just wait. It seems they are...
  12. M

    Model S Rear Ended Hit-And-Run

    Sorry to hear about what happened but at least it is minor damage. Another reason to have a dual channel dash cam. I wish someone would make a high quality 1080P front and rear dash cam but with encryption for video files.
  13. M

    If Model 3 doesn't look better than this...

    Not a fan of those all black wheels. Makes the wheels look like those tiny donut spare wheels on cars. When combined with the yellow calipers the yellow part looks like the warning label on a donut tire. I'm not a big fan of the blacked out look. I have no doubt the Model 3 will look much...
  14. M

    So, Just hung up from an unexpected and very interesting phone call from Tesla

    I agree. That was my reaction when I first saw the thread. I was like wait, so you did not want to order one without seeing it and spending time in it and here someone is offering personal service to drive one to you so you can have time with the vehicle and now that's somehow a horrible...
  15. M

    Act Fast: Loaded Brand New Tesla Model X P90DL (Being delivered Friday!)

    If nothing else I'd bet BMW would like to buy it. All this time they've been thinking the Model X was just a "prototype..." :)
  16. M

    Model S potential buyers - what are you waiting for?

    They've had this in their cars for a while now. Nothing new.
  17. M

    Annual service price increased by 50%

    When you take car in for service can you ask Tesla to charge you for just the fluid flush and the inspection? This would likely be just about an hour of labor plus parts. Would they do that? You can then on your own replace the cabin filter, wipers, and key fob battery. Car dealers for all...
  18. M

    BMW CEO says Model X only a prototype and hits his head on Falcon Wing Doors

    Perhaps in a future iteration you will get your wish :) I still think some of the hard top convertible roofs execute a pretty intricate origami choreography to fold and store the roof in a small part of the trunk. It seems BMW and the rest of the Germans are still in denial that Tesla got...
  19. M

    Annual service price increased by 50%

    Not that they even need to mention anything. An EV should cost less to maintain than an ICE. Period. It should not cost the same. It should not cost more. It should simply cost less because there is far less to maintain/service in an EV.
  20. M

    Interesting conversation I had with Tesla rep about model S pricing going up in April

    They call me too and I'm always happy to hear from them :) What are you really complaining about? If you have expressed interest in buying a car and they follow up with that what is so wrong about that? And if prices are going up possibly due to various trim levels being discontinued why not...
  21. M

    Annual service price increased by 50%

    Even without any DIY I fail to see how that average annual maintenance cost of $766 has any basis in reality for 2015. Most modern ICE cars, especially the premiums cars, have really cleaned up their act when it comes to service. Many only require service once a year and on most years it...
  22. M

    Annual service price increased by 50%

    I am sorry but that $766 average annual maintenance fee for a car in 2015 is complete BS. Perhaps that what you pay if you go to the dealer and tell them you are a clueless sucker and to bill away as they please :) On years that require a minor service, the expense in servicing both of our...
  23. M

    BMW CEO says Model X only a prototype and hits his head on Falcon Wing Doors

    Something tells me they have tested the FWD operation thousands of time before release. And they will refine the mechanism even more in the coming months. I offered the retractable hard top in convertibles as an example of a complex mechanism found in mainstream cars because some people are...
  24. M

    BMW CEO says Model X only a prototype and hits his head on Falcon Wing Doors

    The falcon wing doors are no more complicated than the retractable hard tops of some convertibles. I think the Model X will turn out to be a great call by Tesla to build a vehicle that really has no competition. In time they will iron out any issues with the vehicle and by then there will be the...
  25. M

    BMW CEO says Model X only a prototype and hits his head on Falcon Wing Doors

    Maybe he hits his head often? :confused:
  26. M

    BMW CEO says Model X only a prototype and hits his head on Falcon Wing Doors

    I agree. Same will happen to A4/A6 and Mercedes C and E Class sales. Unbelievable how none of them have anything to compete with Tesla for about another 2 years.
  27. M

    Can't find a suitable CPO. Will you sell me your trade?

    Unless you are desperate to get a car in a week or two, just wait and the prices and the inventory should return to what it once was. The purge might even end up working to your favor where you perhaps end up with a D model or better equipped car for the same amount you were looking to spend...
  28. M

    Interesting conversation I had with Tesla rep about model S pricing going up in April

    Isn't that because of the exchange rate fluctuation? I can't imagine Tesla just increasing prices on the Model S unless they are offering more with the price increase or discontinuing certain lower end trims.
  29. M

    So, Just hung up from an unexpected and very interesting phone call from Tesla

    Another way to look at this is they are providing exceptional service to potential customers and allowing customers who are interested in purchasing a Model X the option of seeing the vehicle up close before finalizing the order. Isn't this exactly what some had wanted? If they are really that...
  30. M

    BMW CEO says Model X only a prototype and hits his head on Falcon Wing Doors

    In this case it's like the Model X is trying to knock some sense into him for calling the Model X a prototype :wink: It's like: "Did you feel that? I am real buddy and soon I'll be eating your X5/x6 lunch." It's almost as if whenever BMW builds a truly good looking/modern car it is indeed a...
  31. M

    BMW CEO says Model X only a prototype and hits his head on Falcon Wing Doors

    Model X hits BMW in the head Quite amusing to see the BMW CEO trying to frantically leave a Model X after realizing he has been spotted by a journalist. http://electrek.co/2016/03/07/bmw-ceo-tesla-interview-model-x-hit-head/ Interesting how much in denial the Germans are about Tesla. The BMW...
  32. M

    Annual service price increased by 50%

    I guess what people are saying is that $600 was more than enough for the max service cost of an EV that lacks a transmission, transfer case, engine requiring oil changes, or an emission control system along with all the other mechanical linkages. The premise of EVs is that they require...
  33. M

    Tesla's response to me leaking info about the P100D?

    Kidney grill: check Fake exhaust when operating in retarded EV mode: check Retarded ICE engine sounds piped through the sound system when operating in retarded EV mode: check
  34. M

    What happened to the cpo inventory?

    As it should be. I think their initial strategy of certifying on the fly what are essentially loaner cars was a logistical mess and highly inefficient. Really makes sense to verify and then offer the car for sale so the transaction is done in an orderly manner.
  35. M

    Got an awesome insurance quote..

    Is that to insure one of these?
  36. M

    Tesla's response to me leaking info about the P100D?

    With the i8 BMW has already implemented these features.
  37. M

    Elon - what have you done for me lately? Autopilot is getting boring - what's next?

    They go to all this trouble to announce the P100D and you want more? :tongue:
  38. M

    Annual service price increased by 50%

    Where did you get the math for that? The service for both of our premium Germann cars is in the neighborhood of about 2 cents a mile. The cost of service for us is about $250 for most years that only call for a minor "service" if we only stick to what is called for on the owner's manual. An EV...
  39. M

    Interesting conversation I had with Tesla rep about model S pricing going up in April

    The customer-facing channels get their news from customers :tongue:
  40. M

    Let the hacking begin... (Model S parts on the bench)

    I wonder if a pack can be upgraded just by taking it apart and replacing the existing cells with higher energy density cells?
  41. M

    Let the hacking begin... (Model S parts on the bench)

    ... and it's out :) http://electrek.co/2016/03/04/tesla-os-hacker-model-s-p100d/
  42. M

    CPO Financing

    Just as an added FYI, Earth Motorcars will actually lease CPO Tesla cars. Two things to watch for: Their money factor is high BUT negotiable if you approach it the right way. Also their leases are "open ended" so if you will be on the hook for any difference if the car is worth less than the...
  43. M

    CPO Model S Delivered

    Beautiful car. Looks super elegant. Congrats! Silver looks absolutely amazing on a Model S when paired with the pano roof and it is great that they brought back that color.
  44. M

    What happened to the cpo inventory?

    At the last earnings call there was some mention of a new CFO and something about "cash is king." Seems they have revised the CPO program for the time being to only to sell cars that cost almost the same as a new car. Perhaps the thinking was they can bring in more revenue by only selling more...
  45. M

    Interesting conversation I had with Tesla rep about model S pricing going up in April

    That's about the last thing they will do to increase Model S sales. Realize Model S production is expected to be about 50% higher in 2016. The reason some have not yet bought a Model S is not because it costs too little :tongue:
  46. M

    Extended Service Agreements No Longer Transferable?

    So your definition of Tesla protecting themselves is to have ambiguous wording on a warranty contract that no other automobile manufacturer in the world that I know of has? These ambiguous provisions can be invoked by Tesla as grounds to not transfer a warranty after a sale has been made any...
  47. M

    Has anyone purchased inventory car in last 3 months?

    Are you referring to the P85Ds that sold in the $80Ks or $90Ks recently?
  48. M

    Extended Service Agreements No Longer Transferable?

    That's exactly why this thread is 47 pages long. Some of us want to be protected with a clear and fair contract and not potentially end up with having bought or sold a car with an ESA Extended Warranty that would not transfer or be valid for whatever reason.
  49. M

    Extended Service Agreements No Longer Transferable?

    The issue here is not that it is technically possible to transfer the extended warranty but how you can do that and how you can obtain assurance from Tesla BEFORE selling the car that they consider the ESA to be valid and that they will absolutely honor the transfer when you sell the car. The...

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