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  • The final cut of TMC Podcast #27 is available now with topics time-stamped. We discussed: Consolidation in LiDAR manufacturers; Volvo EX90 shipping with LiDAR; FSD Beta Full Release in N.A.; FSD detecting autopilot cheats, Gwen Shotwell directly overseeing SpaceX Starship; and more. You can watch it now on YouTube. We should have it published to podcast networks shortly.

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  1. THXULTRA

    MCU 3 UPDATE MODEL 3/Y? [retrofit speculation thread]

    You are thinking of the self driving computer but are still a bit confused. There is AP1, AP2.0 (Nvidia), AP2.5 Faster Nvidia and Full Self driving computer also called (3.0 by some) In house computer. There is a new full self driving computer in development also that they say will come with the...
  2. THXULTRA

    Model S 75 or Model 3 Performance Stealth?

    Did you update your MCU? Going to the performance (stealth) you will gain performance. Also much better infotainment if you didn't do the mcu update. The original MCU is slow. You will also gain all wheel drive which is huge if you get snow (be sure to get proper tires though the perfrmance has...
  3. THXULTRA

    What happens to a trade-in?

    They auction them off they don't want to be any part of the traditional used car market.
  4. THXULTRA

    10.3.1 rolling out

    My top 3 observations. 1.) Really impressed with how well it handles right of way at 4 way stops. 2.) Really handling lights changing well also. Especially impressed with how it has done with yellow lights. 3.) Surprised how many times it doesn't get to the right turn lane to make a right...
  5. THXULTRA

    10.3.1 rolling out

    Doing the exact same. Trying to use FSD when there isn't too much traffic. Also avoiding unprotected turns especially 2 ways stops for now. biggest issue I have found so far is it making late changes into the turn lane or waiting too long to commit to a turn.
  6. THXULTRA

    Vendor Tesla Shields: Our Humble Beginnings

    Any Updates on 2021 Model 3 floor mats shipping?
  7. THXULTRA

    10.3.1 rolling out

    Going to try 10.3.1 on my way home from work tonight. Really hard for me to judge 10.3 fairly since I only used it for a short time yesterday, it was my first FSD drive and the weather wasn't great. I ended up disengaging it quite a few times on turns though since it felt like it was doing to...
  8. THXULTRA

    10.3.1 rolling out

    Really glad to hear about the turns. 10.3 was scary around turns when I tried it yesterday. Looking forward to the perpendicular parking update also.
  9. THXULTRA

    10.3.1 rolling out

    Got it over LTE also was surprised they pushed it over LTE and didn't wait till overnight when more people are on wifi. Looking forward to testing it on my way home tonight.
  10. THXULTRA

    Test Drove Still Researching [whether to purchase a Model 3 performance or LR]

    Exactly. I bought a set of 18s for the winter here. The 20s have summer tires so if you live someplace with cold/ snowy winters you are going to need a set of all weather or winter tires.
  11. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    Beetle juice , Beetle juice, Beetle juice :)
  12. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    Yes people on this forum have said it works... Takes a couple of days from what they said.
  13. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    I think you are thinking of the CDC... Edit: although they do have some authorities...
  14. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    Normal software company I would agree. Useually you have some major change between major versions. Didn't seem the case when Tesla went from 9.x to 10 though. I also wouldn't be surprised if Tesla has cars running the single stack version of FSD in house also.
  15. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    I know Elon was running version 10 for at least a week before the closed beta testers were running it.
  16. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    I remember Elon saying a few versions back the next one was a big jump and that he was running it on his car. Guessing the NTSB would balk at them releasing a test version to thousands of cars on public roads without some internal testing.
  17. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    Exactly you would think they would internally test this quite a bit before releasing it to a public beta test group also so by yesterday they really should have known if it was good to go today... Edit guess that was Wednesday but still should know about pushing updated software to a couple...
  18. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    All of this is just more reason I would never get insurance that bases the price off something like Safety Score or progress snapshot...
  19. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    He posted this on October 14th 2 days later... Just more evidence of what I have been saying about Tesla's planning with this.
  20. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    They wouldn't even have to release a update to fix the opt in opt out trick. They could simply keep the data when people opt out and bring it back when they opt in. All that stuff is being calculated server side at Tesla's end. Edit: Possible they wouldn't want to do this though because they...
  21. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    I agree with you, my comment was in response to a post that was just flat out wrong about what Elon said. What he said and what he does though are two different things I will agree.
  22. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    No he doesn't it is pretty clear he said he is planning on releasing 10.3 to cars with a score of 99. His actual tweet is below... Beta 10.3 releasing Friday next week to all cars with 99/100 safety score
  23. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    I fully understand that this is a beta and that Tesla has to be careful with how they roll it out. I do think it could have been run better. As I have said many times better communication would go a long way. I do think Tesla did a good job when they told the initial roll out people they needed...
  24. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    Have to say the appeal of FSD is my geek side. I also like fun to drive cars though so the performance while still being efficient is what drew me to buy my Tesla.
  25. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    How about those fun turns into construction barriers? Seen a few brushing up to bushes also... Know at first I'm planning on trying it when there isn't much traffic on the road.
  26. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    Ya if you aren't going to be able to get a 99 by tomorrow night I would try the opt out and back in trick. I'm at 99 and would have to drive quite a bit to get to 100 so I'm going to hold on and see what he does this weekend. Other question I have is what score is need to stay in the beta. I...
  27. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    Totally agree with what has been said here. Been saying the whole time this whole rollout should have been planned better by Tesla. First it was 7 days of driving, then it became 2 weeks. Then they were going to roll it to groups of 1k daily now they are adding safety scores every 2 weeks. Now...
  28. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    Supposed to roll out to those of us with 99's with the 10.3 update this weekend. Hoping this is true because I'm in this group also. That is what Elon Tweeted last week.
  29. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    Right now you need a 100 score to get the Beta, Elon tweeted this weekend they will roll it out to people with a 99. If you runenroll and reenroll you will need to get at least 100miles of driving to be considered for the beta. Unsure of how many days they will make you wait also...
  30. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    On this topic I know the performance models have a g-force sensor in the track mode. Has anyone tried using this. I know you aren't supposed to run track mode on normal streets...
  31. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    I read the post I replied to worng. I read it as Tesla sharing the data to the state's insurance commissioner... My mistake there. You can easily hide your information from your ISP by using a VPN. Google is one of the most intrusive companies but people that think they are getting all that...
  32. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    I believe someone on this forum said those insurance tracking devices weren't legal in California. I don't live in California or know for sure but that is what someone said. I would push for legislation like this in my state though if something like safety score become required. You are 100%...
  33. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    I wouldn't get Tesla insurance if it required me to have/use the safety score. If Tesla shared this information with other insurance companies it would be enough for me to switch cars. I don't want my car turning into big brother. Using it for the Beta is one thing but forcing it onto people...
  34. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    This is the big question is when will they use the deta from. I heave heard on this forum of people that raised their scores to 100 over the first launch weekend and got the beta. It is anyone's guess right now which data they will use so to be on the safe side I would try to keep your score at...
  35. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    Do wonder how they will handle it. If they use last Friday then anyone that opted in last Friday or later would probably have to wait. Would be nice to know how they are going to pick the next group. Expecting my score to still be 99 but will people that get to 100 be taken first and then I'm...
  36. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    Congrats what is your safty score?
  37. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    What year and model is your Tesla? Seems they aren't rolling it out to MCU1 cars and New Model S's
  38. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    Sure there are laws that answer the question but I'm not a lawyer and not going to act like I know. Whole point is Tesla is selling a product though at some point they will have to deliver or give people a refund.
  39. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    The question is how long is acceptable for Tesla to deliver these developments when they say available by the end of the year.
  40. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    This depends on when you bought your car. If You bought when Enhanced AutoPilot was available then you really did get screwed (if they don't get autosteer working soon).
  41. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    Your safety score for the day will stay the same but you overall FCW score will improve as you drive more and don't get anymore FCW's. I also believe the overall score is based on total driving over the past 30 days so as the days roll off that you got the warning that will also help your score.
  42. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    On the flip side though even back in 2017 when I bought my Model S (before the 3 I have now) Tesla had video's showing a model S appearing to drive on its own. Many people back in 2017 bought full self driving believing it would be available soon based on this advertising. Now 4 years later...
  43. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    The FCW number is avg for 1000 miles so on a short trip in your case 6 miles getting just one will show a super high percentage because if you continued to get them at this rate you would have 166.67 FCW's for 1000 miles. Getting a FCW on a day you drive few miles will kill your score for that...
  44. THXULTRA

    Vendor TeslaShields update #10

    Any updates on when the 20/21 model 3 floor mats will ship?
  45. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    Exactly I'm running ios 15.1 beta on my iphone right now. Anyone can get it. I still see the safety score in my tesla app. I even forced quit and restarted the app. Have a over all score and my daily score.
  46. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    Actually had a FCW yesterday that was false (I was exiting a expressway and it thought I was going to hit the car that was stopped in the lane). Safety Score didn't ding me which was the right decision but I was also surprised.
  47. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    I'm sure Tesla has tested the Safety Score app enough to know that it does what it says it does. It isn't hard to write a program that monitors the car's sensors and reports if certain actions happen. I'm sure they even know who is "cheating" by resetting their car. Plus all Tesla apps are a...
  48. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    I do think a if all goes well we will push to the next group on Friday is much better then saying several days. If they have issues they just communicate we are having issues with the current rollout and have to delay rolling out to more people. We will continue to give updates expect a update...
  49. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    I know my fair share about software testing... I also know that Tesla has been testing FSD for some time and has a really good idea of how well it works in the real world. They could very easily say if all goes well we will push to the next group this Friday. They had some set backs and waited...
  50. THXULTRA

    Safety Score

    Goes back to my whole complaint about them not planning the rollout. First the safety score was only for 7 days. Then they were rolling it to 1k per day... Now it is we will see how it goes and several days later... AT least give some sort of daily update... Does anyone even know the safety...

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