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  1. jjvan

    Towing Camper with Model S 85D?

    There is a fix for the tail light and turn signals to work. This has been covered a few times on TMC. You can combine the left and right tail lights using a relay to activate the trailer tail lights only when both the Tesla right and left tail lights are on. What happens is that during the day...
  2. jjvan

    Towing Camper with Model S 85D?

    I have an older pacific trailer, dual axle with bunks. What are you thinking of towing?
  3. jjvan

    Towing Camper with Model S 85D?

    @2022S-LR I don’t used a brake controller as my trailer has hydraulic surge brakes. I don’t know if the Model S has the same plug as the Model X but I would guess that it doesn’t. You can always install an aftermarket brake controller though.
  4. jjvan

    Towing Camper with Model S 85D?

    I tow my sailboat (4000lbs) with my Model S 85D and power-wise it handles it no problem and it tows better than my v8 truck. I use the new stainless ecohitch with the 4000 lbs tow rating and 400 lb tongue rating. Although the stock Model S is not officially supported for towing by Tesla, it has...
  5. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    I listed the one I use in a previous post: Model S Trailer Hitch Installation
  6. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    This should work on your car. The refresh they are talking about is the new refresh in 2022 (not the old refresh in 2016). So pre-refresh for Torklift is the 2012-2021 models. The x7201s is definitely the better hitch to get. It is also stainless steel and won't rust.
  7. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    I had someone ask me more details on the how this relay board for trailer wiring is hooked up. Here is a labelled photo that I hope clarifies the connections. I'm sorry that some of the wire colours are not intuitive.
  8. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    This behaviour has been noted several times in this thread and other threads. You can solve it by using the "tail" wires from each side and making an AND gate with a relay. Or you can just keep the tail lights on while trailering. See my post on wiring here.
  9. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    I use this adjustable 4 level hitch riser: 10" Adjustable Hitch Ball Mount 7,500 Pound Capacity with 4 Levels of rise Some of the drop bars have a reduced capacity rating when upside down. Just make sure the rating is higher than your load.
  10. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    Mine does have a little bit of a lip on it like yours but I didn’t check to see if it was any different from before I put the hitch on.
  11. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    Thank you for the seatbelt tip! I was having this same problem backing down the ramp and the parking brake coming on suddenly. I thought it was the rear parking sensors getting confused with the trailer but it now appears to be my weight coming off the seat while looking back like @dmwahl. I...
  12. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    Yes the trailer has brakes.
  13. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    Every EV is going to take a massive range hit when towing because EVs use all the design tricks to be extra aerodynamic and efficient. You throw all that efficiently out the window when you tow something like a boat. This will be true also for other EVs including the Cybertruck. The solution to...
  14. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    The best way to get better range is to drive slower especially while towing a boat that has significant wind drag like mine. If you are ever worried that you won't reach the next supercharger, move to the slow lane and reduce speed.
  15. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    Oh too bad the Model S wasn’t working for you. My towing trips are much less distance than yours and I am loving towing with my Model S. I towed my 4000 lb sailboat about 50 km (30 miles) with no trouble at all. It climbs hills so much better than my v8 F150 truck and with no roaring engine...
  16. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    Here is a pic of the lift gate module on the right side of the trunk where I tapped the 12v+ and 12v-.
  17. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    I did the wiring after I put the bumper and exterior trim back together but I left the interior trunk trim pieces off to access the wiring. Those trim pieces are pretty easy to take off again and do the wiring later if needed.
  18. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    For the wiring, instead of using the expensive tekonsha wiring kit I used a $10 four relay opto isolation board from amazon that was suggested by another TMC member here. I powered it from the power liftgate 12V which is fused and is available from the power liftgate module on the right side of...
  19. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    This past week I installed the new 4000 lbs rated ecohitch on my model s. It took a few hours for the hitch and another few hours for the wiring. Here are the pics of the hitch installation:
  20. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    The cross tube is still two pieces but the tubing is thicker and the welds look pretty heavy duty. The receiver has “stainless” stamped into it but all the tubing is painted and difficult to tell if it is actually stainless. I’ll for sure take some installation photos. Here are some additional...
  21. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    The new ecohitch arrived! Here are the pics.
  22. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    A trailer has much more impact on windage than the weight. On ABRP you probably need to double or triple the energy consumption (wh/mi) depending on the size of the boat and how fast you drive. I have seen numbers from other members of 600 wh/mi and more when towing larger boats and trailers...
  23. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    I think they copied and pasted much of the new manual and probably didn't remove the arrow part. I also think the new manual was probably made in January 2022 but they didn't change the year from 2021 to 2022 as people often forget in January. I think I stumbled on a photo of the new hitch on...
  24. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    I ordered the new x7201s hitch yesterday. Torklift told me that the new hitch has its bar higher than the old one and does not require reinstalling the stock impact bar. This is good news because it allows the hitch bar to be thicker and a continuous piece of metal. The old design is split in...
  25. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    Wow that's great they are sending the new hitch! Please post pictures when you receive it.
  26. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    Here are screenshots of the parts inventory from the old hitch x7201 and the new hitch x7201s. You can see the old one has 16 nylon washers while new one has 28 nylon washers. Did your hitch come with the old parts list?
  27. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    The Model S has essentially the same frame as the Model X and the Model X can tow 5,000 lbs. There are users on TMC who have towed 5000 lbs and more with a Model S using a Model X hitch without issue. There is another hitch available in Europe for the Model S that has undergone extensive testing...
  28. jjvan

    Model S Trailer Hitch Installation

    Thank you @Jasper7821 for the info about the new 4000 lbs tow rating on the Model S ecohitch. This new version seems to have another product page here: 2012 – 2021 Pre-Refresh Tesla Model S Stainless Steel Stealth EcoHitch® It has a different sku: x7201s (the old one was just x7201). The...
  29. jjvan

    Class 3 Tow Hitch For Model S

    Well done @arman1010! I am getting ready to do the same thing and I have already marked my Drawtite Model X hitch with the holes from a Model S Ecostealth hitch. In step 11 you describe cutting additional notches to fit the bumper panel over the hitch. Is that visible from the exterior when...
  30. jjvan

    Shudder vibration service appointment

    I just had Tesla (Vancouver Powel st) fix this with new half-shafts on my 85d. A year ago they said it was normal but this time I did the following: -submit a service request and use the wording in the bulletin of a vibration/shudder in front end with hard acceleration which is noticeable on...
  31. jjvan

    BC EV Charger Rebate Program $700

    No trouble getting mine approved last year. A friend just had his approved last month. You should be good. Just a note. Hydro used to give the rebate for a “self install” without a permit. This was accomplished by attaching a pigtail plug to the wall connector and using an existing 14-50...
  32. jjvan

    Model X Hitch on Model S?

    @Evoforce has installed a Drawtite Model X hitch on his Model S. The Model X hitch is much stronger than the Model S hitch and rated for 5000 lbs. It is not a seamless install on the Model S and modification to the hitch plates and the bumper support is required. I do think this is a good option...
  33. jjvan

    Gen 3 Wall Connector

    Mine is at 0.8.52 now. The wall connector only connects to the local wifi.
  34. jjvan

    IRO Dashcam for AP1 doubts and questions

    Thanks for the tip! I'll look into connecting to that.
  35. jjvan

    IRO Dashcam for AP1 doubts and questions

    How did you wire it for constant power? I installed it on my 2015 85D hooking into the mirror connector as described in the instructions and it only runs when the car is active. It would be great to have it run all the time when parked.
  36. jjvan

    I traded my Tesla for a Lexus

    Or maybe we should be encouraging serial killers? Or promoting suicides? Ridiculous. Less emissions per person is the goal. Don’t ask someone else to not have kids so that others can keep on driving and polluting.
  37. jjvan

    How to arrange Fremont factory visit

    Tesla has now stopped doing factory tours at Fremont due to the coronavirus. Here's the message from Tesla: Tesla is actively monitoring the impacts of the Coronavirus and is taking proactive steps to ensure the safety of our community is a top priority. In order to take every preventative...
  38. jjvan

    Anyone purchase used from Tesla site?

    Tesla will ship it to another location in Canada for $2000 and it takes a month or more to transport. Or you can pick it up and drive it home. At least that's what they offered me in October and I assume it is the same now.
  39. jjvan

    Anyone purchase used from Tesla site?

    I ordered my used 2015 Model S on Tesla.com which was located in Toronto and Tesla shipped it to Vancouver for me. Tesla charged $2000 extra to have it shipped but the prices in Ontario and Quebec were much much better. It took about 1 month to arrive. No test drive but I was able to fully...
  40. jjvan

    BC and (new) Referral Program

    Has anyone here moved or changed residency from BC to another province (like AB) and then received the referral bonuses? How do you inform Tesla that you are now eligible for the referral awards?
  41. jjvan

    BC and (new) Referral Program

    @JavaWatt are you still not getting billed for supercharging?
  42. jjvan

    Adding a hitch for a bike rack to a Model S

    Thanks @Evoforce for your detailed photos and description. I'll have to study them more closely. That looks like quite a lot of cutting into the bumper support beam making it weaker. Do you think that the hitch bar beneath will make up for that in the event of a rear-end collision?
  43. jjvan

    Adding a hitch for a bike rack to a Model S

    Thanks @Evoforce, that looks great. I already bought an Ecohitch but haven't installed it yet because I want to tow more than 2000 lbs. I think I'll give your solution a try. Can I get the more detailed info from you on how to do the modifications? Thank again.
  44. jjvan

    Adding a hitch for a bike rack to a Model S

    @Evoforce do you have some pics of your Model X drawtite hitch install on your Model S? I'm wondering where it ends up coming out of the underside of the bumper. I'm guessing there is no way to have it hidden when not in use.
  45. jjvan

    Best Dashcam for Model S

    @Kandiru did you find out which wire was for the "always-on" 12V power?
  46. jjvan

    AWG 8 wire with 50amp breaker

    Note that this thread is in the “Canada” category. To summarize, If the conductors and the terminations are rated for 75 degrees C or better, the Canadian Electrical Code (CEC) allows 8 gauge wire for the 50A breaker.
  47. jjvan

    Is there value in the Tesla 4yr CPO warranty?

    Yes the Tesla used bumper to bumper warranty is very valuable. I bought my used Model S in November 2019 and Tesla Service has been excellent in fixing all the issues that have come up but would have cost a bunch without the warranty. For me they replaced all the brakes and rotors, replaced...
  48. jjvan

    AWG 8 wire with 50amp breaker

    I just wanted to update this thread based on the info I found for installing a NEMA 14-50 receptacle. A 50A breaker is OK for 8/3 wire when used with NMD90 (90 degree C wire), and all the other equipment is rated for 75 degrees C conductors (see Table 2 of CEC). This is most likely the case...
  49. jjvan

    First Time Model 3 Purchase in BC - Some Questions

    1. I personally think AWD is essential because I go to the mountains frequently in snow. But the price premium for AWD Model 3 at the moment is not worth it. You pay $10k more to Tesla plus an extra 5% in PST plus no $8000 rebate. The SR+ is just too good of a deal in comparison. However I...
  50. jjvan

    First Time Model 3 Purchase in BC - Some Questions

    The buyer should get the 1500 KM with the referral code. It's just the owner who referred the buyer may not get a referrer award if they live in BC because of the law that says a person cannot get a car sale reward if they are not a registered car sales person. If you didn't get your 1500 KM...

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