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  1. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Plaid S stuck in a trailer on way to Pikes Peak (unreliable internal combustion engines 😒), if you guys could retweet and/or help increase awareness maybe they can find a fast solution.
  2. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Analysis thread on fire: One person on twitter says his father works with similar machines. Seems to think it'll likely be back up and running by end of night. "My dad works in metallurgy and has worked with press machines similar to this before. 'Looks like steam or water vapor. Anything...
  3. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Tesla's likely historic battery day is tomorrow (9/22/20). This video is an INCREDIBLE primer. It gives a great introduction to lithium ion batteries and their past technological improvements (very technical and detailed). It talks about all the different metrics batteries will need to perform...
  4. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    This is the thread where we realized we can't offset the option with other options in an attempt to delay taxes. How to defer tax by reducing short term capital gain using call spread. "Moderator comment added at the request of @Davidzhao365. Summary: this doesn't work, there is a special IRS...
  5. Jovian

    How to defer tax by reducing short term capital gain using call spread.

    Yeah definitely interested in learning more myself! P.S. Anyone have a Bay Area (or elsewhere and willing to work remotely) tax specialist who could handle tax planning things like this when it pertains to capital gains? I've already had one accountant make a major advising error and I've been...
  6. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    This sounds similar to 3x leveraged ETFs. It's not as magical as it may sound as long term performance won't match the same long term as TSLA. They are using leveraged instruments such as options and other things to match the daily fluctuations (if it's daily matching), but paying fees and...
  7. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    All you speculating on why Robin Denholm sold and making outlandish S&P 500 speculation... she adopted this sale plan on May 15th, says it right in the filing: "The sales reported on this Form 4 were effected pursuant to a Rule 10b5-1 trading plan adopted on May 15, 2020 and established by the...
  8. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Couldn't it just be an alpha with new functionality? Handling different intersections, summoning to addresses, etc?
  9. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Has anyone figured out if Elon's full self driving alpha build on his car is the 4D FSD rewrite version? Or is it just 2.5D with added functionality??
  10. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I asked a YouTuber (Jason Yang) who does drones shots of the Shanghai factory if flooding has affected the factory, and he said "almost no effect". Whether it affects delivery centers, I have no idea.
  11. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Elon seems to be in great spirits on Grimes' instagram live. #bullish Elon on Grime’s Instagram Live : elonmusk
  12. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Nominating this for a post of merit. If we see this we'll be ready. Mod: beat you to it :p
  13. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Site is live: Tesla Daily More information about it here:
  14. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Rob Maurer There is a bit of a delay in the launch. Should still be today, but they aren't exactly sure what time :(
  15. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Rob (Tesla Daily) got invited to write articles for his own section at TheStreet.com. This should help increase exposure of quality Tesla information to a wider audience! Announcement Hi everyone, Today, I have a very exciting announcement to make. TheStreet.com has decided to add Tesla...
  16. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I think all you're doing is clouding up your brain with mostly inaccurate misinformation. It is one thing if there was an actual debate and they weren't wholly trying to misinform and distort the truth, then you'd have my praise. But I am not giving them more views and not adding any...
  17. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Didn't see this posted: Tesla (and ironically FCA) lead massive EV shift in Europe in radical new market conditions - Electrek Some interesting data in the report you might want to wade through.
  18. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Seems manufacturing may not be included in modification to shelter at home order in Alameda county (I think modifications go into effect next week), but the full story and details will be available at eastbaytimes.com soon. "Breaking: New Bay Area shelter at home order revised to allow: Golf...
  19. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yeah during those 25 minutes they were still viewable with the link, but weren't showing up when you visited his twitter page. So either Twitter was hiding them electively or with some algorithm, or it was glitching which ThirdRow seems to be claiming: Third Row Tesla Podcast on Twitter Guess...
  20. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    You don't get to 33 million twitter followers without being edgy.
  21. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Ray4Tesla says there's a rumor of a MIC LR RWD Model 3 rolling out that would quality for the subsidy by selling for 299k Yuan. Ray4️⃣Tesla⚡️☀️ on Twitter
  22. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I know this is off-topic, but how sick is this Tesla-PC?! Marques Brownlee posted this today, it's a mini-Tesla and a gaming PC all in one:
  23. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I haven't seen this posted on the forums today. Tesla is dismissing contractors from its California and Nevada factories, sources say It's from Kolodny so take with a grain of salt. "Tesla has requested to end all contract assignments effective immediately." Do they have full time...
  24. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    WHO Director-General's opening remarks at the media briefing on COVID-19 - 3 March 2020 "Globally, about 3.4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died. By comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected."
  25. Jovian

    Advanced TSLA Options Trading

    Hey everyone, I'm thinking about playing this upcoming earnings and trying to plan for it. How much of an increased premium on a 14 day contract will I generally be paying for a expiration a week after earnings over a regular premium of just two random trading weeks? (Are premiums usually 20%...
  26. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Interesting updates to the website: Seems that the live chat they had they removed. If anyone can find it let me know. It's interesting that they boosted Model S to 390 mi of range and when you go into the ordering of a Model S performance it shows you the different ranges with the different...
  27. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Did we ever get to the bottom of the T Rowe Price filing? Have they increased to 8M+ shares, or was that an outdated filing? Pretty confused.
  28. Jovian

    Exploring Possibility of an Investment Roundtable Conference in Alaska

    If it's within reasonable distance of an airport I would likely attend (current car won't make road trip and don't know if I can take that many days).
  29. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Live link of Shanghai gigafactory event stream: Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
  30. Jovian

    Roth v Traditional IRA

    I stand corrected.
  31. Jovian

    Roth v Traditional IRA

    Very simply, If I invest 100k in a Roth IRA over time, (I’ll end up paying ~24k income tax so that 100k in my account cost 124k). Then if that 100k becomes 1000k or a million, I can withdraw that million tax free in retirement. An IRA will have you pay taxes on all those earnings and will...
  32. Jovian

    Market politics

    Great analysis as always Papafox! I was going to wait until after delivery numbers discussion slows down to make this post, but it seems you gave a great jumping point, so I will post it now. I know there is a separate thread for politics, but I feel this issue could be incredibly important to...
  33. Jovian

    Livestream from Fremont

    He's back online.
  34. Jovian

    Livestream from Fremont

    Lmao, security found him and said they had reports of someone taking photos of factory line. I think he may have decided to end his stream, stay tuned....
  35. Jovian

    Livestream from Fremont

    His wife called him and it disconnected it, he's back online now, but some guy just told him he can't be filming so we'll see what he does haha.
  36. Jovian

    Livestream from Fremont

    Russ is at the Fremont factory live streaming deliveries on Twitch, he asked if someone could post a link on TMC: Twitch
  37. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Russ is at the Fremont factory live streaming deliveries on Twitch, he asked if someone could post a link on TMC: Twitch Edit: Security found him after he accidentally video'ed some of the factory line during his walk. Think he may be ending his stream haha. Edit AGAIN: He's back online!
  38. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Same here, thank you everyone. I doubled my position during the big drop between ~180-240 this year and so far looking like a good decision (I remain a long buy and hold strategy). This would not of happened without the high quality of information I received from browsing this thread hours a...
  39. Jovian

    Advanced TSLA Options Trading

    Hi everyone, been reading the investors' round table and the threads before it for some time, rarely post just read. Have a question about options: Been thinking about buying some LEAPs calls Jan 2022 ~520 Strike. Was thinking about buying before Q1 Earnings release as there is a chance it...
  40. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Got some positive Tesla coverage in the Robb Report: What Does Tesla’s Self-Driving Mode Really Look Like? A New Software Update Gives a Sneak Peek This is a magazine aimed at multi-millionaires (with listings of $100k+ watches, yachts, and expensive vacation properties in the magazine). May...
  41. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Could this have anything to do with Saudi Aramco IPO? Could they be flush with cash?
  42. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Any speculation on why he might be over there? Trying to work out some further deal with Panasonic? Anyone know if this is the international airport he'd fly into if he was going to meet with Panasonic executives?
  43. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Someone on twitter seems to be claiming Elon is heading to Tokyo. Anyone know how to check this?
  44. Jovian

    Tesla Cybrtrk

    There was supposed to be an email going out today with more details about event. Anyone get it? What did it say??
  45. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Important if true. Is there any way we can confirm this? If I'm understanding this correctly, if true this would refute the warranty service idea causing the bad margins in service.
  46. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Congratulations to everyone who held on and especially those that bought during the darkest days! This is a small victory for us, but Tesla still has work to do. After looking at the Q3 update I realized they improved margins on service to from -22.8% to -21.7%, but still lost ~$119 million...
  47. Jovian

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Have you not been reading this thread prior? I’ve been catching a knife falling so hard my hands are bleeding.

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