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  1. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I'm sure this was already discussed many pages back, but wanted to chime in. When I saw GM's "Vertical take-off and landing" drone vehicle as a flagship concept for their EV future, I half died. They finally signal they understand the pressure from Tesla, they change their logo, make this big...
  2. Robocop

    Tesla 'Compare Models' price differences?

    Ah, yeah I did a search for this in other threads, but the word 'compare' yielded too many results. Haha. The CA discount seems like it shouldn't count for majority of people, strange! Oh well, thought I caught a sneak peek of a price drop! Guess not.
  3. Robocop

    Tesla 'Compare Models' price differences?

    I was using Tesla's 'compare' page, and noticed the base models of each were ~$1500 lower than the listed price on any individual page. Compare | Tesla Obviously a Model S is $69,420, but all of these prices are consistently lower. I searched for an answer but couldn't find one. Is this normal...
  4. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    There's >50 votes even w/o him. No pressure from McConnell, so there's a tad of bipartisan support. He tends to be a dissenting vote more often when the are no consequences. But it's certainly possible some retail traders are unaware. In any case, shouldn't be a major factor.
  5. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Much against any financial advisor's advice, I have some short term savings for our first home in TSLA. So of course it'll be worth more in the future, but this is a nice price to sell a bit knowing I need the cash anyway. Not sure about OTHER people, but there are certainly situations where...
  6. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    All of my (sell order) ladders in my short term accounts began at $700. So $695 was a kind of special result. BUT, no major drop after hours. So I can't complain really.
  7. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Forget the inclusion. Let's talk about these trees!
  8. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Volume currently ~79 million. So some sugar needs to happen. Tick tock.
  9. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Thank you to you and your brethren for these talking points that have continued to suppress the TSLA stock these past years, we appreciate the discount you have afforded us! Feel free to continue shouting these from the rooftops so we can continue.
  10. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    If you search this area of the forum's thread titles, there are various S&P inclusion threads, some new, some old. Lots of musings on this all year, pick your favorite!
  11. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The funny part is, they are still actively missing it. Like you can buy in today, and still have major returns that outperform the market. This article could have been written a year ago, now, or a year from now. It'll keep going up and they'll say again "Drats! I missed it!". Just, like... buy...
  12. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Not gonna lie, in my short term account yesterday wasn't fun, but if it's going to shoot up like this I certainly don't mind the volatility it caused for my calls! IV way up. May end up better, even, then a slower march towards ATH's. Silver lining!
  13. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Several of my calls are green for the day because of vol. Even at -$41 drop. Options!
  14. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Austin to Brownsville (Boca Chica) in a private jet, is what? Under an hour? It's ~330 miles, so if saves Elon time that's good for everybody!
  15. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Green day on a $5B dilution? Not how I thought today was gonna go, but alright! Perhaps somewhat attributed to that risk of a $20B+ dilution coming off the table (most likely).
  16. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    On the 8k it says the date of Sep 8, saying the process completed on Sep 4. So if they do finish this one quick, it appears we may not found out the exact details until later in the week or the week after. Correct?
  17. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Saw this on Twitter. In case y'all were wondering if you picked a winner.
  18. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    "Over a long period of time, the stock market on average has annual returns of nearly 8%" - Someone. Tesla: Goes up 8% every day.
  19. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I went from like 5% calls to 15% calls. No idea what the top will be, let's hope we sell close! Shares untouched.
  20. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    GM paying dealers to straight up close, to advance their EV sales, is the thing has moved me from "0% chance of not going bankrupt" to "hey, 1% chance of not going bankrupt!". Like they have so so much to do still, but it is a signal that some part of their team sees some of the writing on the...
  21. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Instantly turns to 594. Thank you.
  22. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I think GS is still a little slow with the timeline, but even they admitted the 20 Million production per year is possible in that article. Is this the first big player to agree that the 20 M might happen?
  23. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Headline read "Goldman Sachs Upgrades Tesla (TSLA) to Buy, PT to $780 on Improved LT Sales Outlook and Margin Expansion" anybody got the full details?
  24. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Even after several years, I get surprised by the volatility. Not that it IS happening, just timing. Negated the entire down day in seemingly 1 minute?
  25. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    What are the exact dates for the one tranche? Is it 14th - 18th (to be all set by the 21st)? I wasn't clear if there was a 3 day buying period, or 7, etc.
  26. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    So if he's not extended, is he gonna bail? I'm not familiar with the matter, but this hasn't escalated to a vote of removing him?
  27. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    So ATH close is actually still possible, despite all the swings. *waits 2 minutes* Edit: I dreamed a dream, but now that dream is gone for me.
  28. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yup, especially for TSLA. I feel like I'm always surprised on the day when the 'reaction' should happen. Then it quiets down and shoots up later, once people have stopped writing articles about X.
  29. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    590. I looked away 1 sec and it was 580 before. This is massive.
  30. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I am like 99% certain they'll announce pretty much what we expected. But me and my calls are awfully nervous about that 1%. I do not have a good batting average with anything outside of buy and hold.
  31. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I made some bets at the top this morning, so not surprised at the drop! But yes, the S&P announcement and uncertainty must be a big factor for many trades today.
  32. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Reminder that on page 1 of this thread (way way back) it was announced: "This year, we are not going to try to split discussions between a "Market Action" and a "General" thread, as years of experience has shown all are too enthusiastic about putting their opinions and observations in a fairly...
  33. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    When you've sold every other stock, run out of money, your wallet is empty, and are out of margin.
  34. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Has this been posted yet? The Only Electric Car Stock Worth Buying | The Motley Fool Some gems: "Yes, Tesla does more than make cars. And yes, there's a cult following and intense loyalty surrounding the brand. But ultimately, Tesla is much more an automaker than a tech company. It's valued...
  35. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    No that was me. I sold a small % to swing trade on said dip, so it went up on Friday as a result. My apologies. A lot of you aren't aware that the market moves in the opposite direction of all my actions. Reliable indicator.
  36. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Re: The addition of TSLA in a tranche during Q1 2021: S&P specifically said "Due to the large size of the addition, S&P Dow Jones Indices is seeking feedback through a consultation to the investment community to determine if Tesla should be added all at once on the rebalance effective date or...
  37. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Alternate Universe: Early 1900's OEM's: "Gas stations? We don't need those, people will figure it out. Not our problem." Early 1900's GasTesla: "Uh, we're going build gas stations for our cars so they can go places."
  38. Robocop

    Probabilities of SP increases until Dec 31

    Not sure if this was their point, but in this scenario the 'peak' is expected to happen near-ish Dec 21. Not trading for a potential spike in the next year, or even the next 3 months, just trading for this very very specific window as the SP increases during inclusion. Post-inclusion I truly...
  39. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Hey y'all, I'm running some fanciful probabilities in a spreadsheet. Started a thread to hear your / bull's thoughts on probabilities of certain SP price targets between now and Dec 31. Thread: Probabilities of SP increases until Dec 31 Appreciate any thoughts you'd like to add!
  40. Robocop

    Probabilities of SP increases until Dec 31

    Bulls / Anyone want to comment on these numbers? I'm not running a Monte Carlo simulation or anything, but I am doing some rough (rough) probability estimates to determine how much of my brokerage account (margin account) to move into some lottery tickets / short term options. Vast majority is...
  41. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Bought some (tiny) lottery tickets on Thursday/Friday, already up ~100%. This is coming from somebody who mostly swore off options for a while. Less than 5% of portfolio, but a doubling is a doubling!
  42. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Keep checking my brokerage account out of habit, knowing nothing has changed. When can we get this 'thanksgiving' over with?
  43. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I have always expected this to happen eventually, the question for me is who's the first OEM to capitulate? My instinct says VW. Note: I think this would be a great move for whatever OEM finally give up. Imagine a 2025 VW EV and the dealer can say 'It can charge nationwide on all Tesla...
  44. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I don't bring up Tesla to general public. Too many dumb reactions. I just quietly think "You'll be driving one in 2025." Or rather, it will be driving them.
  45. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Do that with TSLA SP and you get a $75 Trillion market cap in 2031. So...
  46. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Sure, but TSLA does not have that many doublings left, if you start from a small sum. No matter how bullish you are. I too have a smaller account, so I'm bullish on TSLA, but even at $4T market cap, I won't be able to retire on it. Womp womp.
  47. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I gave up mostly on options after losing quite a bit in the 'TSLA trades sideways for 4 years' days. BUT, to not 'miss out' on the potential volatility here, I took a tiny bit and bought 2 lottery tickets at Dec 24 and Dec 31. $750 strike. If there's a crazy spike (like to $1000+), I have them...
  48. Robocop

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    $2-$100 SP increase per day, you mean?

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