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    2023 Model 3 without USS and proximity functionality [park assist / summon not available]

    Need to come to the UK and try parallel parking a tesla without sensors and zero rear visibility for anything within a car length to the car. It won't be long before you hit something i can tell you. Ya could always get out and check multiple times as you squeeze into the small space - but don't...
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    2023 Model 3 without USS and proximity functionality [park assist / summon not available]

    Anyone who is thinking Vision is going to do as good as or a better job than the USS - is going to be hugely disappointed. Basically everyone with a 2023+ model needs to prepare themselves for functions like park assist to, at best, only work properly during daytime and on dry days. It will...
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    Model 3 Performance - Q2/3 2022 LG battery, significantly reduced power at upper end

    Agreed and it is something i'm going to do next year when the temperatures warm up again. One area where the LG does perform better than the Pan is in colder temperatures. The battery naturally warms up faster (due to higher internal losses), and the different battery chemistry lends it self to...
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    Smaller and Lighter wheels make you faster, more efficient, and offer better road hazard protection.

    I just did a drag test, starting from stop on a significant downhill slope. Surprisingly, there really does look to be a 1g acceleration limit... Best 0-60 I've ever got of course, but you would expect better considering it was a fair downhill slope. My SOC was 70% so I maybe could have gone...
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    Smaller and Lighter wheels make you faster, more efficient, and offer better road hazard protection.

    That's a good point - i've got some roads not far from me that are a good length and inclined.....time for a downhill 0-60 with a dragy to see what happens....
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    Smaller and Lighter wheels make you faster, more efficient, and offer better road hazard protection.

    There does appear to be a 1G limiter that can be seen on dragy charts - however an M3P only pulls 1G up until 45mph on an unmodified M3P, after that it drops off. So there are gains to be had even on the 0-60 - albeit not earth shattering. The impact of smaller lighter wheels is only about a...
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    UK Charge Point Installer Recommendations

    This is the concern with any smart tech - what happens if they go bust, product development is gone, no more software updates - what if bugs surface and it no longer works properly with newer vehicles, Then there is the product warranty - that's now gone. I went with a Zappi for my charger -...
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    Smaller and Lighter wheels make you faster, more efficient, and offer better road hazard protection.

    Just to add my 2 cents (pennies) to this conversation... M3P 2022 (UK EUmodel, LG 79 kWh battery which is not as high an output as the Panasonic 82 kWh in US models). FYI, all EU bound M3P's now use the LG battery from Q2 2022 onwards (prior the performance M3 used the same Pan 82 kWh as US...
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    Tesla Vision - Removal of UltraSonic Sensors

    Aye, the included charging cable is very long and heavy as it's designed to do 32 amp, where all you need is 16 amp for 3 phase as the max the model 3 can do is 11 kW. I've been thinking of buying a short light 2 metre 16 amp cable just for charging at Tesco pod points, only the cost at £130 is...
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    Tesla Vision - Removal of UltraSonic Sensors

    Never buy a Tesla then, as it will never fully work with the camera tech that's currently in the cars. For their 'vision' to work they need much better camera's, higher resolution but more importantly many magnitudes greater dynamic range along with some form of system to clean off dirt and...
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    Model 3 Performance - Q2/3 2022 LG battery, significantly reduced power at upper end

    The real goldilocks are the Q1 2022 M3P's.....they got the AMD Ryzen MCU3 and the newer hairpin 3D6 rear motor as well as the Pan 82 battery. The hairpin motors have a bit more power at the upper end so when combined with the Pan battery that can actually deliver the power, they are the fastest...
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    Model 3 Performance - Q2/3 2022 LG battery, significantly reduced power at upper end

    Yeah the chart does get updated now and then over on tff-forum.de The info on the LR was confusing for 2021 - seems Tesla were shoving in whatever battery they had available due to the worldwide shortages. The best is the Panasonic 75 kWh - which doesn't actually exist. Tesla capped the output...
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    Model 3 Performance - Q2/3 2022 LG battery, significantly reduced power at upper end

    The performance Model 3 has always been Panasonic, worldwide, right from the very start....in 2021 and Q1 2022 it was the 82 kWh - Q2 onwards EU models are LG 79 kWh and US still have the 82 kWh Panasonic....
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    Model 3 Performance - Q2/3 2022 LG battery, significantly reduced power at upper end

    Got some more results: 70% SOC 0-60: 3.4s 60% SOC 0-60: 3.45s 1/4 mile: 11.9s 50% SOC 0-60: 3.5s 1/4 Mile: 12.0s So it's dropping off but not by huge amounts....I expect the 100-200km/h is dropping by more though.
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    Tesla Vision - Removal of UltraSonic Sensors

    Tesla is basically playing a game of kerplunk......they will keep removing things until it all goes wrong. Recent list of stuff removed: -USB data connection (power only) on all USB ports other than glovebox -Passenger lumbar support -Secondary steering control unit (no level 2 capability...
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    Tesla Vision - Removal of UltraSonic Sensors

    Indeed - hardly any cars nowadays are delivered without parking sensors, only the ultra base models don't come with them....hell a £20k Vauxhall Corsa at least has rear parking sensors. At the very least you can usually add them for not much cash as an option. I don't see USS as a luxury - but...
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    Tesla Vision - Removal of UltraSonic Sensors

    All this camera stuff is all well and good in nice sunny dry conditions - but it all goes to crap in British spitty rain weather. I can't count how many times i've had a warning that it can't see out of the left or right pillar cameras - it's dozens of times in the past few weeks anyway...
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    Model 3 Performance - Q2/3 2022 LG battery, significantly reduced power at upper end

    I've improved my 100-200 time somewhat - my tyre pressure was 38psi (cold pressure) so upped it back up to 43psi. This reduced the rolling resistance / drag so i managed to get a 10.9s on the 100-200. I also tried preheating the battery prior to my runs but this made no real difference as I was...
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    Tire Wheel Vibration - Tire Foam Inserts do come loose

    With regards to the 'echoing hum' - that is the exact reason why the foam is put in the tires. The foam does nothing to reduce road noise itself- what it does is reduce the cavity resonance. When you bounce a wheel with a tyre on the ground, you hear this 'dong' type noise - do the same with...
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    Model 3 Performance Waiting Room

    You are looking for unevenness, just by eye - so for the bonnet and boot you are looking at the gaps on both sides to make sure they are the same. Same with lights, doors etc. You also want to check door trims line up - now nothing is going to be 100% mm perfect but older models have had...
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    Model 3 Performance - Q2/3 2022 LG battery, significantly reduced power at upper end

    Since I ordered (and now received) my M3P I have been concerned about the switch from the Panasonic 82Kwh 3C batteries that have been used in the M3P up until Q2 2022, to the LG 5C 79Kwh battery. I have researched a fair bit about this newer LG battery and know it is capable of less power output...
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    Vendor Model 3 Öhlins DFV Coilovers - Engineered by Redwood Motorsports ™

    Excellent! - didn't realise that was the source of the noise. I also notice there are no helper springs now on the rear, or are they only on the performance sport version?
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    Vendor Model 3 Öhlins DFV Coilovers - Engineered by Redwood Motorsports ™

    Good update, i'm interested in this kit - only concern is the noise from the dampers that others have mentioned when going over bumps/driveway. Have you noticed this 'squelchy' noise others have referred to? - i'm hoping it's been fixed in the latest versions of the GT kit.
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    2022 Model 3 matrix headlights pattern

    It is normal for UK LED or xenon headlights to have this 'step' between the left and right - i have seen this on my previous car with LED and the xenon based one before that. It's for lighting up road signs on your left. However the step is the most prominent i have seen on any car, it also...
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    UK Charge Point Installer Recommendations

    I wasn't targeting anyone in particular - ETTO of course, and I do understand wanting to have a Tesla charger with a Tesla car - it also does look good. If it weren't for the aforementioned short comings, I'd definitely go for it over any other charger - in fact I wanted too, just when I...
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    UK Charge Point Installer Recommendations

    I'm unsure why anyone goes for the Tesla Wall Connector - it is cheaper than something like a Zappi, but as it has no PEN fault protection the savings are mute due to the extra costs of a separate unit for PEN fault protection. The wall connector itself is also pretty dumb, afaik there's still...
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    UK Charge Point Installer Recommendations

    It is very unusual for a looped supply to be on 100A - also you cannot technically have an EV charger on a looped supply, the DNO is required to 'unloop' it - which will be done for free. However it can take months to get the DNO to unloop it as it requires running another supply cable and as...
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    UK Charge Point Installer Recommendations

    If you are on a looped supply, it is highly unlikely you can go beyond an 80 amp cutout....have the DNO confirmed you can upgrade on a looped supply?
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    Q3 collections, new owners tales and experiences

    Picked my M3P up on the 2nd - only just discovered this thread so here are some pics :) Picked up from Bristol, only waited 10 minutes or so before they brought it out. They offered me coffee whilst i waited, asked if i wanted to be shown around the car and given a tutorial etc...good...
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    Model 3 Performance Waiting Room

    As above I fixed the same issue with just a light polish - the little white milky spots came straight out. I tested with a bit of Meguiars ultimate polish and a microfibre - marks were easily removed.
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    Model 3 Performance Waiting Room

    Removing myself as well..... User Exterior Interior AutoPilot Collection Order Date Delivery Estimate VIN Antlers1968 silver black AP Bluewater 21/02/2022 02/09/2022 Uknn silver black EA 28/02/2022 Nov - March 2023 SlavaK black black AP Glasgow...
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    Model 3 Performance Waiting Room

    With regards to these tiny milky spots that looked to be under the clearcoat - i'm glad to report they are not! They came straight off with a light polish, unsure what they are - some contamination probably picked up on route from China. They wouldn't shift with a water spot remover but the...
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    Model 3 Performance Waiting Room

    The range will improve with time as the BMS adjusts - you need a fair few 100% charges and 1000 miles+ and the range will increase, this was always the case with previous models but is even more so with the LG battery. Of course the winter months will skew any expected range so you won't see the...
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    Model 3 Performance Waiting Room

    Did you get anywhere with this as i've noticed the same spots on my black M3P, primarily on the hood. Not visible in direct sunlight but I can see them when in the shade. Gonna hit the hood with my DA tomorrow (if it's dry), see if they're just water spots of some sort.
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    Model 3 Performance Waiting Room

    It's more the resale value I want the 72 plate for - car looks 6 months newer.
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    Model 3 Performance Waiting Room

    Collection date confirmed - 02 September for 72 reg, Tesla rang me before I rang them to arrange collection date. User Exterior Interior AutoPilot Collection Order Date Delivery Estimate VIN Antlers1968 silver black AP Bluewater 21/02/2022 15/08/2022 - 14/09/2022 Uknn silver black EA...
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    Model 3 Performance Waiting Room

    I now have my VIN and a delivery date range of 27th August to 31st for collection - of course i'm going to ring them to move it to September to get the 72 reg ;) User Exterior Interior AutoPilot Collection Order Date Delivery Estimate VIN Antlers1968 silver black AP Bluewater 21/02/2022...
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    Model 3 Performance Waiting Room

    Means everything I said is correct....you have the Panasonic 3L 82Kwh battery, the Ryzen MPU, and the 3D6 Hairpin motor - you have the best all worlds on your M3P and I really wish i was getting your car!. That thing will pull like a train and put down more power than the LG based models and...
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    Model 3 Performance Waiting Room

    The Q1 M3P's DO have the Hairpin motor....it output's more torque but it's peak HP has moved further up in the RPM range.... The front and rear power balance curve is different with the hairpin motors. Again the TFF forums have confirmed that M3P's delivered in Q1 are a unicorn model that have...
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    Model 3 Performance Waiting Room

    Not quite right - there was a separate range drop for Ryzen MPU and then a further range drop for Ryzen + LG 79Kwh Battery. People who received their M3P's in Q1 this year (ordered end of last year) were individually informed that they would receive a slight WLTP range drop (think it was about...
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    Model 3 Performance Waiting Room

    Not that I want to add salt to your wounds - but if you do decide to re-order an M3P at some point, the price has recently gone up £1,500 and I wouldn't be surprised if there will be another price rise before the end of the year.
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    Model 3 Performance Waiting Room

    Mine now updated (again) to August 25th - October 9th User exterior interior autopilot collection order date delivery estimate vin Mac2022 black black NI 13/12/2021 27/06/2022 Snoopcat blue black Jan 22/06/2022 5649XX ND22 red black FSD Birmingham 10/02/2022 28/06/2022 5698XX...
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    Model 3 Performance Waiting Room

    Mines just gone to Oct-Dec 2022 - baring in mind, mine is a March order!, so I expect all those below me to be moving to a new date. Mine had only just moved up 1 week to 17 August (from 24th)...and now I get this BS!
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    Model 3 Performance Waiting Room

    My EDD has been updated and moved forward slightly, 1 week earlier now. User exterior interior autopilot collection order date delivery estimate vin Mac2022 black black NI 13/12/2021 27/06/2022 Snoopcat blue black Jan 22/06/2022 5649XX ND22 red black FSD Birmingham 10/02/2022...
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    Model 3 Performance Waiting Room

    Indeed.....white is the new silver and silver would now be 'new' and rare. Only 10 years ago, most cars were silver - judging by all the cars on my estate, most new/fairly new cars are white and a nice metalic silver is getting pretty rare on the roads.
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    Model 3 Performance Waiting Room

    A lot of the 'May 2022' placeholder dates on the German M3P TFF forum have now changed to Aug XX - Sep XX.....so i expect everyone's May EDD is about to be updated with similar date range.
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    Model 3 Performance Waiting Room

    My EDD just been updated on the website....was 'August' now 'August 24 - October 08' !! Talk about a wide range! Updated your EDD @prizos User exterior interior autopilot collection order date delivery estimate vin Mac2022 black black NI 13/12/2021 27/06/2022 Snoopcat blue black...
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    Model 3 Performance Waiting Room

    I expect, it will be able to do 3.1, on the right surface, at nearly 100% SOC, with the battery very hot......and this will be what Tesla will say if people start moaning....it's a bit like how the Model S Plaid can do 1.98 0-60 with the caveat it needs a 'specially prepared surface', and...

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