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  1. Pilot1226

    Between a Model Y and a Subaru Outback

    I know this thread was focused on the Y, but assuming I make this my commuter and local car and the Mrs. drives the vacation car or we switch if I am bringing the kids somewhere. I found the rear seats a little tight in the 3, but the SR+ has a pretty solid price point especially if the tax...
  2. Pilot1226

    Between a Model Y and a Subaru Outback

    Yes. I was thinking the same - the R4Prime would just be a bridge and the more I drove in electric more the more I would just want a full EV. I’m also watching Toyota’s solid state development and when Tesla is going to roll out those new battery cells from battery day. While range won’t be...
  3. Pilot1226

    Between a Model Y and a Subaru Outback

    2” ground clearance doesn’t mean anything to be except for times of snow on the road, which gets plowed reasonably fast. I don’t overland or off-road so the extra ground clearance is not needed. Utility is a nice thing to have, but I’m hauling soccer balls and baseball stuff - not lumber and...
  4. Pilot1226

    Between a Model Y and a Subaru Outback

    I have, thanks. I’m kind of viewing tires as a wash, but I do expect to need tires about twice as often for an EV compared to ICE. So, in a nutshell, about every 2 years for a Tesla, compared with my general track record of 4 years in my Subarus. I am planning for oil changes for my turbo...
  5. Pilot1226

    Between a Model Y and a Subaru Outback

    This should be helpful! An even more generous electric car federal tax credit reform is being proposed - Electrek
  6. Pilot1226

    Between a Model Y and a Subaru Outback

    Yes, I’ve had no problems in the storm that brought 18” of snow we got earlier this winter… all seasons and AWD are good enough for these parts, no mountains or hills. The enjoyment is the boost when you step on the gas. I wouldn’t expect more out of a wagon. At least now the paddle shifters...
  7. Pilot1226

    Between a Model Y and a Subaru Outback

    Yeah, I get that. I’m on my 4th Subaru. The ones before my current 2021 were a little quirky inside. The newest redesign that started in 2020 really makes it feel like a fun car. I’m not really a fan of my wife’s Honda or family’s Toyota’s for different reasons. I elected to go with the turbo...
  8. Pilot1226

    Between a Model Y and a Subaru Outback

    Thanks for sharing your opinions. I can’t honestly say I’ve ever maxed out the Outback for storage. Anytime we’ve had a lot of stuff to haul, we just throw it into her car. Yes, in theory the range at 18 mpg would be 333 to fully empty. (18.5 gallon tank) And, for reference, that would cost...
  9. Pilot1226

    SR Goldilocks Range and Effectiveness

    Fair enough. Thanks for your two cents. Will see how it goes!
  10. Pilot1226

    Between a Model Y and a Subaru Outback

    Right. I am more a logical, analytical mindset. I see dollars and cents. I see a net purchase of around 28-29k after tax credits for the SR, followed by around $600 worth of electricity per year. The Subaru was a net purchase of 40k, with around $2000 a year worth of fuel. I am trying to...
  11. Pilot1226

    Between a Model Y and a Subaru Outback

    Sorry. This was my first thread ever on the forum so I was doing my research. Ultimately, the Mrs. was not onboard with the plan and I caved. However between the lousy fuel economy and other things with the Subaru that she can actually see (money, fuel costs, etc.) she is picking up that I am...
  12. Pilot1226

    SR Goldilocks Range and Effectiveness

    Yeah. My problem with the 120/12 is that it’s in the garage. I park in the driveway. Would have to figure out a way to run the cord outside and would be doing it regularly. Probably not the best for the cord.
  13. Pilot1226

    SR Goldilocks Range and Effectiveness

    Sure - but it would be cheaper to spend $400-500 on a 5-20 outlet, that’s all I was getting at.
  14. Pilot1226

    Between a Model Y and a Subaru Outback

    R4P was on my shortlist. Inventory is hard to find. Dealers are marking it up. While there is around a $1000 state EV rebate ($25 per electric mile x 42 miles of range) I would still pay 6.625% sales tax. It essentially comes out to be very close in price to the MY anyway but has all the...
  15. Pilot1226

    SR Goldilocks Range and Effectiveness

    Did you ever consider the OpenEVSE where you basically build it and customize it to your specifications? It seems to be popular with some YT channels, especially for hybrids and plug in hybrids.
  16. Pilot1226

    Between a Model Y and a Subaru Outback

    I’m 100% there to be honest. But the Mrs. and I function as a team and we each have our own veto powers. It’s a question of convincing her that this is as good of a vehicle as the Subaru and that it won’t affect her in the least bit. I certainly have my work cut out for me going forward...
  17. Pilot1226

    SR Goldilocks Range and Effectiveness

    It was at the time but it is close to 12 months old now. It is likely higher in price, but yes. That was it. The higher cost was reflective of the 14-50. 6-20 would probably be more than enough. 8 hours at [email protected] would give me over 30 kW.
  18. Pilot1226

    Between a Model Y and a Subaru Outback

    Digging up this old dinosaur. I ended up getting out of the lease early with no penalty and no out of pocket fees. They just took the keys and it was done. I ended up buying/financing the Outback XT Onyx Edition. It is great except for the fuel economy. 17-18 mpg over the 2 months I’ve owned it...
  19. Pilot1226

    SR Goldilocks Range and Effectiveness

    The photos are in an old post from August are here: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/posts/4832602
  20. Pilot1226

    SR Goldilocks Range and Effectiveness

    Thanks. It is an existing 120V20A circuit with an unused attic “whole house fan”. We had central air installed a few years ago and they installed a subpanel for the circuits. However, there is no room to upgrade as stated by 3 different electricians. One of them was the Tesla suggested...
  21. Pilot1226

    Serious 12v battery corrosion. Normal?

    CRC makes a great battery cleaner and spray protectant. I’ve used it for years to help keep my batteries as healthy as they can be.
  22. Pilot1226

    Impact of Supercharging on Battery Life?

    Superchargers will taper down depending on where your state of charge currently is and other parameters (temperature). I wouldn’t worry too much about it, and just use it to supplement your home/work/destination L1/2 charging solutions. In other words, don’t Supercharge to 100% and let it sit...
  23. Pilot1226

    SR Goldilocks Range and Effectiveness

    Absolutely. I was just looking to see if it was another “perk” or not. That might have been enough to push me over for an AWD. I’ve spent/wasted the last couple hours mapping everything related to my daily drives in ABRP. Everything is looking good. Even found a few free public J1772 chargers...
  24. Pilot1226

    SR Goldilocks Range and Effectiveness

    It’s complicated. The car was purchased for around 35,500. I added a 10 year 100k mile manufacturer extended warranty called the SAS Gold Plus plan that I can use at any Subaru dealer. Each repair has deductible of $100 per instance. That was $1570. Adding in state sales tax was another $2500...
  25. Pilot1226

    SR Goldilocks Range and Effectiveness

    I guess so. I’m a numbers kind of guy. Every year I drive the Subaru will cost me around $2000 in fuel. I elected for the turbo engine which was supposed to be rated for 23/30 and I am around 18 with mostly highway driving. I “optimistically” calculated my yearly fuel cost using $3 for fuel and...
  26. Pilot1226

    SR Goldilocks Range and Effectiveness

    Fair enough. I'm concerned about backing myself into a situation where I have to DCFC every time I do a round-trip to/from shore areas. I don't mind if I accomplish it during a lunch hour - 30 minutes at a SuperCharger is probably plenty! - but I don't want to have to get out of a shift at...
  27. Pilot1226

    SR Goldilocks Range and Effectiveness

    Haha. If they send some up to NJ I will be happy to take one!
  28. Pilot1226

    SR Goldilocks Range and Effectiveness

    Right, so I wouldn't want to consider Used, because then I'd lose the potential for the $7000 FTC and $5000 NJ TC/Instant Rebate when they come out. I'd have to wait. My hands are tied. Those rebates/credits will help me with the "loss" on depreciation I'm going to take by trading in a 6 month...
  29. Pilot1226

    SR Goldilocks Range and Effectiveness

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Off menu just means I have to call and order it, right? There would be no on site inventory… I am fine with waiting. I am a fan of the refreshed interior and would not want to have the first year run of it due to growing pains. I also believe that I can’t get...
  30. Pilot1226

    SR Goldilocks Range and Effectiveness

    Hello, It’s been a while since I’ve been on the forums. I was able to trade in my leased Forester without penalty back to Subaru and purchased (financed) a 2021 Outback XT. Great car, but disposable in the sense that I am only looking to get 10 years out of it because of the mechanicals: turbo...
  31. Pilot1226

    Back and forth between a 3 and Y

    Thanks. Do we have any idea when the interior refreshes from the 2021 Model 3 will start appearing in Model Y?
  32. Pilot1226

    Back and forth between a 3 and Y

    Thanks for the reply. I think the thing to keep in mind is that I’m comparing the model three and the model Y with the idea that they will both have a heat pump. It appears that there are several refresh changes coming to the model three now, but electrek doesn’t have access yet to the interior...
  33. Pilot1226

    Really? Tesla is a little too cost conscious!

    We’ve been talking about this a little bit On the New Jersey rebate thread. I am planning to purchase the compressor and sealant kit from Tesla for peace of mind. I am also planning to purchase the modernspare kit as well as a tire plug kit because I don’t want to have to rely on roadside...
  34. Pilot1226

    Back and forth between a 3 and Y

    Thanks for your replies. I am mostly interested in superior efficiency (my CUV gets around 23 mpg combined over the tank) and regenerative braking to help boost gains in city traffic. Yes, I do need some room for stuff but I found the Model 3 to be adequate. The Y would provide some extra...
  35. Pilot1226

    Battery cost MY

    But what isn't being addressed is depreciation. The SECOND that those new cells hit the 3 and Y, the values of the previous 3 and Y will decrease substantially.
  36. Pilot1226

    Back and forth between a 3 and Y

    Going back and forth between a 3 and Y. It seems like the 3 has slightly better QC because it's been out since 2017 and they've worked out the kinks. I like the upcoming changes and chrome deletes, hopefully we can confirm it has a heat pump in it soon as well. I would likely buy the SR+...
  37. Pilot1226

    Got My 2021 VIN!

    If there is a heat pump in the new 2021 refresh that should help tremendously with the cold weather efficiency.
  38. Pilot1226

    Maximum charge level for daily use

    Yes, from what I’ve read, it is best to keep the average at 50% state of charge. However, this is diminishing returns, so the effect of keeping it at 60 or 70% state of charge is less significant compared to someone that keeps at at 90 or 100% state of charge. if you were someone that uses 20%...
  39. Pilot1226

    Got My 2021 VIN!

    I am curious when they will incorporate the changes for the model three into the current model Y, I really like the changes to the three, and price aside, having this available for under $40,000 is pretty attractive in terms of the standard range plus. don’t get me wrong, if I was shopping...
  40. Pilot1226

    About to install NEMA 14-50 ...

    There is a 14-60 outlet that is uncommon. OpenEVSE sells a charger that would give you the 48A on the 14-60 if you didn’t want to hardwire the official Tesla HWC. They also make a portable version.
  41. Pilot1226

    New Jersey NJ EV Rebate

    Yes. You’re jacking up 25% of the car, right? I’d be curious to see what the rating of my Subaru scissor Jack is related to the total weight.
  42. Pilot1226

    New Jersey NJ EV Rebate

    Modernspare.com
  43. Pilot1226

    New Jersey NJ EV Rebate

    From what I have seen on reviews, it does not fit, unfortunately. Perhaps it could if the lower trunk was molded differently. I do not have a Tesla yet but am planning to get one once I place an order. They do have a kit but it looks like they’re pretty busy so it takes about a month to ship...
  44. Pilot1226

    New Jersey NJ EV Rebate

    @NJEV-Don I suggest you look into a “Modern Spare” set that contains a Jack, tools, and donut. Don’t forget to buy the “pucks” for the lift points.
  45. Pilot1226

    Level 1 charging sufficient for low daily miles?

    Make sure you have your J1772 as well while you’re in there. I am planning to buy the 5-15, 5-20, 14-50 just for versatility
  46. Pilot1226

    Level 1 charging sufficient for low daily miles?

    @jcanoe is correct, but also don't forget about other options if you're stuck on 120V: Level 1 "NEMA 5-20" (120V @ 16A, 1920W), 10.4% Level 1 "TT-30" (120V @ 24A, 2880W), 6.9% ----- this would require a special third-party EVSE adapter, as Tesla does not offer a genuine one. This is commonly...
  47. Pilot1226

    Level 1 charging sufficient for low daily miles?

    Right, exactly. The gains in efficiency and the fact that once charged, your car/computer will "sleep" to calibrate BMS stuff. It seems like you should really rush to get your charge filled up, or at least to a pre-set point, and then do it again in the morning to get the battery warmed for...
  48. Pilot1226

    Maximum charge level for daily use

    I don’t believe that other thread suggested that balancing didn’t occur below 80%, I believe it said something like if the car doesn’t sleep or is actively charging then it won’t. So if you set your max charge to, say, 50 or 60% and let it be, it should calibrate as the switch should be open.
  49. Pilot1226

    Total braking system failure?

    +1, though I do recognize that I am probably among the minority of people that have read manuals cover to cover. There were 4 manuals with my Subaru: owner’s manual, warranty and maintenance manual, eyesight manual, and Starlink (infotainment) manual. Each one was pretty heavy but had useful...
  50. Pilot1226

    Level 1 charging sufficient for low daily miles?

    Well, if you take the roughly 300 Watts overhead away from 11,520 ([email protected]), that would be 11,220 Watts or 97.3%. But that also assumes the full hour was needed to charge.

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