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    Looking to buy a 2019 Model S Raven

    2019 Model S Raven was exactly the car that I had. Had several Tesla's for 9 years consecutively. Tried a Model 3 in there too and hated it. The 2019 Model S with updated Raven suspension was absolutely the best version they built in my opinion. I'm absolutely not a fan of the interior of the...
  2. K

    Tesla goes over cliff-pacific-coast-highway-California-miracle survivors

    I agree 100%. But, this is America, where you're innocent until proven guilty, so will reserve judgement until a verdict has been rendered. Not that my judgement will matter one ounce. In any case, that goodness for their survival, whether intentional mischief or not.
  3. K

    Steering Wheel / Yoke option

    I said it back when they released that hideous joke or yoke thing, that soon enough, they'd be offering a full steering wheel option. Was inevitable. Now that sales are slowing drastically, Tesla may finally lose the "our way or the highway" attitude and start thinking about customer service again.
  4. K

    Tesla goes over cliff-pacific-coast-highway-California-miracle survivors

    So sad and happy at the same time. Don't know what to feel. When I first read it, was just simply amazed that all four survived a terrible "accident", so I thought. Then, read another article that the driver was arrested for intentionally trying to kill himself, his wife and precious 9 and...
  5. K

    Tesla goes over cliff-pacific-coast-highway-California-miracle survivors

    Wow, higher power or something else, someone or something was certainly looking out for these people. Tesla flies off 250 foot cliff. All four survived. Two adults with non-life threatening injuries and 9 and 4 year old kids escaped injury. Just amazing. EDIT: HOLY CRAP, just read another...
  6. K

    Firsthand comparison from an owner of both, between the Rivian SUV and Tesla Model X. The only EV 7-seater SUV's available.

    So many are concerned with losing Tesla's supercharging network if they give up their Tesla. And it's a given, Tesla's supercharging network is second to none. For a road trip, they're reliable in most cases and easy to use. I guess the more relevant question is, how often do you really use it...
  7. K

    Firsthand comparison from an owner of both, between the Rivian SUV and Tesla Model X. The only EV 7-seater SUV's available.

    Edmunds completed their own detailed review and posted today. They used the Plaid to compare top vs top version. I think the standard X is more realistically comparable, but is still $30,000 more than the Rivian. The Plaid is $58,000 more than the Rivian.
  8. K

    Firsthand comparison from an owner of both, between the Rivian SUV and Tesla Model X. The only EV 7-seater SUV's available.

    I can't say I disagree with you on the front end. However, will ask, have you seen one in person. Myself, admittedly, I hated the front end of the truck in photos / videos. The rest was just OK. However, once I saw it in person, it looks SO MUCH better in real life than it does in photos /...
  9. K

    Firsthand comparison from an owner of both, between the Rivian SUV and Tesla Model X. The only EV 7-seater SUV's available.

    My Tesla is the 2019 Model S Raven, so it has the updated battery and came with all the changes that Tesla incorporated to get the rated range from 335 to 373 miles. The new Long Range now claims 405, so 32 miles better than what I had. While I've driven the new version plenty of times, I...
  10. K

    Firsthand comparison from an owner of both, between the Rivian SUV and Tesla Model X. The only EV 7-seater SUV's available.

    I originally posted that the Tesla likely wins as a road trip vehicle due to better efficiency. And technically, being that it only has a 100 kwh battery, it is more efficient. However, having now road tripped my Rivian several times, I struggle to give the edge to Tesla. Tesla certainly has the...
  11. K

    Firsthand comparison from an owner of both, between the Rivian SUV and Tesla Model X. The only EV 7-seater SUV's available.

    If you got it for $12,000, that was a steal. Your resale value will be good. Those paying $30k+ for it, take a pretty big hit on resale value. Seems like most Performance or Plaid models only sell around $10-15K higher than LR versions.
  12. K

    Firsthand comparison from an owner of both, between the Rivian SUV and Tesla Model X. The only EV 7-seater SUV's available.

    I don't have actual performance numbers, but personally, and certainly the Tesla Performance versions will zip up to speed on the highway for passing power quicker, but I haven't ever felt like I was lacking in passing power with the Rivian. It's a truck or boxy SUV and I don't think is allowed...
  13. K

    Firsthand comparison from an owner of both, between the Rivian SUV and Tesla Model X. The only EV 7-seater SUV's available.

    Absolutely, if the crazy insane acceleration is of that much importance to a buyer, then the Tesla wins that debate. The Rivian's however, are no slouches at 3.0 to 3.1 0-60 mph. I compared to a MX Long Range because of pricing and performance being more competitive. The Plaid, for another...
  14. K

    PLAID damaged by TESLA minutes before delivery!

    Being a single Tesla owner does not make it possible for you to solve all of Tesla's issues. But, it starts with one and hopefully others follow. If all Tesla owners stood up to them when they do something wrong, they do get the message. That's been the case with many stunts Tesla has already...
  15. K

    PLAID damaged by TESLA minutes before delivery!

    Couldn't agree more. Too many Tesla enablers. For the guy to want something that was promised is not wrong. For someone to say he should go spend $200 on a cheap one because Tesla can't deliver the one that was already paid for....is wrong. Officially done with the sale of my Tesla and helping...
  16. K

    Model S Plaid huge depreciation

    The top, top, top models of any car ALWAYS suffer the most depreciation. That's the product of Tesla charging around $40,000 for the same car with a more powerful rear motor. Same reason why FSD for $12,000, or now $15,000 will never be recaptured fully in resale value. Naturally, there are...
  17. K

    Tesla Raising Price of FSD to $15,000, AI Director States "We Can Build a Car That Never Crashes"

    LOL. From Tesla..... We offered "FSD" some 6 years ago for $5,000. Promised within a year we would send a car from L.A. to New York on its own. We still haven't delivered on that promise, nor the promise to actually enable all vehicles that have paid for the FSD feature, yet, the price over time...
  18. K

    Firsthand comparison from an owner of both, between the Rivian SUV and Tesla Model X. The only EV 7-seater SUV's available.

    Tesla definitely wins hands down when it comes to road tripping. Charging network, efficiency and auto pilot. For those that do A LOT of travelling with their EV's, then the Tesla is the better choice of the two. I will say however, Tesla's range figures are inflated whereas, from first-hand...
  19. K

    Tesla Backtracks On Asking $4.5K To Unlock Model S Range After Web Outrage

    That part was clarified by Jason Hughes in the long twitter feed on the subject.
  20. K

    Tesla Backtracks On Asking $4.5K To Unlock Model S Range After Web Outrage

    Per the article, the car was branded as a 60 (badges) and the screens in the car showed it was a 60 as well. Yet, it had 295 miles in range. It wasn't until after Tesla agreed to reverse course that it was rebranded as a 90. Thus, any buyer should have seen the red flag. They probably got it at...
  21. K

    Tesla Backtracks On Asking $4.5K To Unlock Model S Range After Web Outrage

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/tesla-backtracks-on-asking-4-5k-to-unlock-model-s-range-after-web-outrage/ar-AA106rbv?cvid=c38ad22ee13345ecb5e051ec4c4e749d Tesla had locked the 90-kWh pack of a 2013 Model S to 60 kWh after detecting a "configuration error," then asked $4,500 to...
  22. K

    First no charger, now no key fob, what's next??

    The sky is blue!
  23. K

    First no charger, now no key fob, what's next??

    Not "manufacturing" a scenario. Yes, many times you can find a hotel that has charging available. But the fact is, today, most still don't. I don't want to choose my hotels solely because they have a charger. The condition of many willing to consider switching to an EV is that they are not...
  24. K

    Firsthand comparison from an owner of both, between the Rivian SUV and Tesla Model X. The only EV 7-seater SUV's available.

    It's pretty small too. They did say adults could fit, primarily because the roof doesn't drop down as it does on the Tesla's. But, likely that adults wouldn't want to be back there on any road trips. Good for kids or for adults going a short distance to dinner or something. But I think that's...
  25. K

    First no charger, now no key fob, what's next??

    OK, you win. Correction, "sometimes" necessary, "often" more convenient than going to find a charger and wait at the charger rather than just travelling straight to my destination and saving an hour. And that's for the cases when / if there is a supercharger reasonably close by. What's...
  26. K

    First no charger, now no key fob, what's next??

    I already have. After 9 years in multiple Tesla's, I've moved on to the other options available. More already have and more will follow. Fortunately for the consumer, there are actual viable options available, now with many more coming. I will miss Tesla's supercharging network the 1 or 2 times...
  27. K

    First no charger, now no key fob, what's next??

    Different uses, different needs. Naturally, with gas stations all over the place, rarely need extra gas. But can't say having that extra gallon could never come in handy. With EV's. Options are far more limited. For most, you can plan ahead and use Superchargers. But, depending on where you go...
  28. K

    First no charger, now no key fob, what's next??

    A LOT of people use the charger the car came with. Not everyone has a charger hardwired in. I personally did for my first Tesla and still have it. Used it primarily for all my cars since. Got an adapter and am using it still for the Rivian and Mercedes. But, while I personally didn't use the...
  29. K

    First no charger, now no key fob, what's next??

    After investing 9 years into the company, plus still having a stock investment, I still want to see Tesla be the best they can be. While probably not likely, I still hold outside hope that someday, they'll produce a vehicle that works for me again. I loved my Model S's, prior to the refresh...
  30. K

    First no charger, now no key fob, what's next??

    I know, that was an extreme example. My list could go on. As noted, customer service was part of it. With the new Model S, all the things I noted above. I hated the Model 3 by comparison to my 2019 S. Tesla doubled down, and then some with the Model S refresh. Completely the opposite direction...
  31. K

    First no charger, now no key fob, what's next??

    I actually used that feature quite a bit. It likely will at some point be one of the other features I do miss from the Tesla. Hadn't thought of it until now. But, I'm sure the time will come. I certainly never parked in tight spaces. But, had many occasions where people pulled in after me and...
  32. K

    First no charger, now no key fob, what's next??

    Rivian didn't think anyone would mind when they raised their prices by 20%. Until more than 50% of their customers immediately cancelled their orders and they reversed course two days later. It's not about one little thing, rather a combination of things that start to add up. Tesla has the...
  33. K

    First no charger, now no key fob, what's next??

    I know the Tesla fanboi's will never agree with anything I say because that would be the equivalent of agreeing with Trump or something. But how about this, for my $125,000+ car, Tesla asks the customer......"do you have a need for the Key fob or mobile charger?". If not, they can save the...
  34. K

    First no charger, now no key fob, what's next??

    OK smart guy, $250,000 was for the mandatory deposit required to pre-order the Roadster. Had to be paid in full to lock in the Signature Series version that was due in two years. That was 5 years ago. 3 years later, not even a hint that it's coming any time soon. One other question for those...
  35. K

    First no charger, now no key fob, what's next??

    Enjoy your 90% phones!
  36. K

    First no charger, now no key fob, what's next??

    All the typical Tesla fanboi responses. Yes Elon, take my money and give me nothing. Yes Elon, take things away from the car, of course it's better, because you said so. Yes Elon, let me give you $250,000 and get nothing for it in return. Yes Elon, you're wonderful I don't know why, but you said...
  37. K

    First no charger, now no key fob, what's next??

    Right there, three steps to simply open your doors. Key fob, do absolutely nothing. For those like me that are in and out of the car 10 times a day, those three steps 10 times daily can get old. Key fob, walk-up, do nothing but simply open the door. No giving it a first thought, let alone a...
  38. K

    Any possible out on FSD within first year of ownership?

    If you have a 95 score after a period of time, your best option is to un-enroll from the Beta program. Wait a week, then re-enroll just prior to your trip. Wipes out your old scores. I think they need 1 week and 100 or 150 miles. Just put it on auto pilot the entire trip and you should be able...
  39. K

    First no charger, now no key fob, what's next??

    Couldn't agree with you more. I've already jumped off the train and am now checking to see if the grass is greener on the other side. I won't say it's greener, but it's certainly not brown. For those that want the same type of company experience, LUCID is offering a very nice alternative right...
  40. K

    First no charger, now no key fob, what's next??

    Many by the High Powered Wall Charger for home. But, not necessary if you have a NEMA-50 plug, then the mobile charger works just fine. The HPWC does charge faster, but the mobile charger usually gets the job done overnight, which is all the matters for most. Also, added benefit to the key fob...
  41. K

    First no charger, now no key fob, what's next??

    One of those that gets offended by any comment other than "Oh I love tesla and everything they do, they're so perfect". ! LOL Saying I'm complaining about everything because I posted that it sucks that Tesla took away a very useful feature that has been included for 10 years! More like, you're...
  42. K

    First no charger, now no key fob, what's next??

    I don't carry my bulky wallet either. The card is bigger in dimensions than the key fob is. And, it digs into my legs and certain angles. Again, never even notice they fob is there. Not to mention that with the fob, that I don't notice in my pocket, ever, and never, ever have a problem with it...
  43. K

    First no charger, now no key fob, what's next??

    I'm not one that wants to carry a big bulky phone around everywhere I go. Commonly leave it in the car when out for short periods of time. Would much rather have a tiny little, smooth key fob that weighs nothing in my pocket that I never notice is there, than have to grab and carry my 6 inch x 4...
  44. K

    Firsthand comparison from an owner of both, between the Rivian SUV and Tesla Model X. The only EV 7-seater SUV's available.

    Absolutely. No doubt. Much like the Rivian Truck versus the Ford F-150 Lightning. Both EV trucks, but very different. Yet, are the only two EV Trucks on the market at this time. So, natural to "try" to compare them. Same is true of the Dad that has 5 kids, his wife still hasn't left him, he...
  45. K

    First no charger, now no key fob, what's next??

    It's Tesla decisions like this that remind me that Tesla's head has grown just too big. Sell $100,000+++ car and cheap out by not including a $200 portable charger. Now, they're cheaping out further by no longer selling the Model S & X with a $175 key fob. This, despite knowing that the...
  46. K

    Firsthand comparison from an owner of both, between the Rivian SUV and Tesla Model X. The only EV 7-seater SUV's available.

    Heavily biased in what way? Genuinely curious? I noted which items were "personal preferences". Beyond that, point out the Tesla's many strengths and the Rivian's many strengths. The only conclusion I came to was that, when stacking them up against each other, the Rivian doesn't appear to be a...
  47. K

    Firsthand comparison from an owner of both, between the Rivian SUV and Tesla Model X. The only EV 7-seater SUV's available.

    What am I not comparing? This is comparing the current Model X to the Rivian. Not the pre-refresh. So not sure where you're thinking I mixed them up? And yes, I have experienced both in depth. No, did not own a refresh model, but have driven them plenty enough to know that it wasn't for me...
  48. K

    Firsthand comparison from an owner of both, between the Rivian SUV and Tesla Model X. The only EV 7-seater SUV's available.

    Now that we have the details about the Rivian SUV, seems only fair to compare it to the only other 7-seater all EV SUV. Still two different vehicles. Much like the F-150 and the Rivian Truck. Two different purposes, but this as close as we get. Originally, thought Rivian’s new price point was...
  49. K

    Any possible out on FSD within first year of ownership?

    I do think Tesla should have offered a refund to all those who leased a vehicle for 3 years and never got what they paid for before the lease was up. Especially those with the Model 3 & Y that had no option to purchase at the end of the lease. On the flip side, while yes, most of the features...
  50. K

    After 8+ years, no longer a Tesla owner!

    Purchased my first Model S in 2013. Have had several since. Even tried a Model 3, but that was a very short-lived experiment. Having been spoiled with the higher quality levels of the Model S, the Model 3 for me was a huge downgrade. Tech wise, it nearly matches it, but the extra $40,000 or so...

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