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At least they now know there’s no point in them ever buying a Tesla.

I believe you are being a little pessimistic. I’m pinning my hopes on HW21 🤣😂🤣

Musk in February 2019: “I think we will be feature complete, full self-driving, this year. Meaning the car will be able to find you in a parking lot, pick you up and take you all the way to your destination without an intervention. This year. I would say I am of certain of that, that is not a...

Expectation has certainly decreased over the years, no doubt helped by the realisation that Musk is a fantasist who constantly over promises and under delivers. But if you go back to mid 2019 there was lots of hype about FSD on this forum, with people truly believing it would become a reality...

Well you clearly haven’t hit the unwatch button 🤣

But is it not the case that always charging on ultra fast chargers is not good for battery health and will lead to faster battery degradation? People who can’t charge at home will want to have access to slower chargers in order to minimise battery degradation.

Couldn’t agree more. FSD is my biggest waste of money to date.

I’m also really interested in BYD. I’ve watched several reviews and all have been extremely positive. Their cars are likely to be very competitively priced when they reach these shores. People will say they are an unknown quantity and the infrastructure isn’t in place, but when Tesla first...

But then not so many years ago Skodas were the joke of the motoring world. Now they produce some fantastic cars. Just look at how many police forces use them as pursuit cars. Personally, I like to be open minded.

Oh yes, like “autosteer on city streets” that I was promised by 2019. Still waiting!

A key difference is that very few CEOs shoot their mouth off in the way Musk does. The guy has verbal diarrhoea, and much of what he says is complete crap. Just look at his ridiculously inaccurate predictions about FSD and robo taxis over the years. He needs to learn to zip it up. It’ll be...

There are even bigger reductions in the US -up to 20% off an MY. A comment from electrek: “These price cuts will reverse the price portion of Tesla’s demand concerns, but it remains to be seen whether customers will remain turned off by the brand destruction to which its CEO seems committed.”...

It would be great if China were shunned and unable to sell their goods abroad if only because it would weaken a dangerous country. However, if they start to produce excellent cars (using stolen intellectual property) at a low price I’m sure they won’t be short of customers. People tend to look...

And I didn’t contradict your point, in fact I fully agreed with you.

Because it didn’t seem unreasonable to point out that the improvements you mentioned have come at a significant cost to the consumer.

You are absolutely right about all these improvements, but they have come with a very substantial increase in price. We’re not getting any extras for free. I’m not sure you can justify your last point unless you’ve done very extensive research.

It won’t affect sales. It will be complete crap because it isn’t a Tesla 🤣😂🤣

Why do you think “half” the people on this forum hate Tesla? Is it just because they have the temerity to offer perfectly justified criticism of cars they actually own and use? Presumably you think this forum should be reserved for fanboys, true believers and those who live in a “Tesla bubble”.

Oh, I would never sink that low 🤣😂🤣 I bought an M3 because back in June 2019 there wasn’t much competition. Things are very different now and there are some fantastic cars out there with plenty more on the way. I’m looking forward to BYD establishing themselves in this country. The huge...

I wouldn’t describe the MG as ugly. My M3 is by far the ugliest car I’ve ever owned, and the MY sinks to new depths of ugliness. But I don’t buy cars for their looks. O-62 in 7.5 secs is not exactly rapid by EV standards, but it was hot hatch territory just a few years ago. MG produce excellent...

I charge quite frequently at Gretna, but I don’t use the superchargers. There has been a queue for them every time on my last few visits. Instead I use the Ionity chargers. They are 350kw, and although I can’t utilise the full capacity I do get a significantly faster charge than the 150kw SuC...

You got that right. Crappest lights I’ve had in many years. I like to think that Tesla will enable full matrix functionality at some point but given it’s taken them several years to make the lights just about usable I won’t hold my breath.

The reason people like to moan about Tesla vision is because it’s crap. Which is a pretty good reason to moan.

That’s fantastic, but my Audis have been doing this flawlessly for over 10 years. Nice to see that Tesla might finally be catching up.

I know you’re being sarcastic, but as you know it’s the complete opposite. Tesla’s are the most amazing EVs on the road. The Musk personally invented the battery and the electric motor. In fact he invented the damn wheel. All the competition is crap and Tesla are so incredibly advanced that...

if Musk stopped making wildly impossible promises about FSD then people might stop complaining. He needs to put a sock in his mega mouth.

That isn’t my experience at all. I’ve heard this argument that dirt or something obscuring the camera is responsible for the crap wipers, so at one time I was assiduous in thoroughly cleaning the glass in front of the camera before every single journey. It didn’t make a lot of difference. Of...

When I first joined this forum I was ridiculed for suggesting there would be meaningful competition within a few years. The fanboys assured me Tesla were at least ten years ahead of anyone else. What a load of b*ll*cos that turned out to be. Tesla are still holding their own when it comes to...

No.

That will change, and more quickly than most people think. In just 5 years Tesla will not be dominant in any market anywhere in the world. In 10 years no one will be talking about Tesla.

I don’t think anyone who owns an M3 can criticise the screen in any other car. The M3 just has a small screen or large tablet randomly attached to the dash without any attempt to blend in to its surroundings. It looks like the cheapest possible option, but then that’s very much in keeping with...

My experience is different. I can’t see any improvement and AHB is as crap as ever. Not fit for purpose.

It’s an issue in my eyes when the feature is so emasculated it’s little short of useless.

Well my wipers were thrashing about on a dry screen on a sunny morning again today so no improvement at all. Absolute crap.

Yes, because of course the cameras never get blocked or blinded.

My thoughts exactly. But lots of people do get wildly excited about updates. They obsessively check their app or their car hoping that the Musk will choose them to be the next recipient of an update. When they get it they might suggest that it has cured phantom braking or fixed the wipers. The...

Sales figures for a few months are irrelevant. It’s a 5 year trend I’m interested in. Will Tesla still be market leaders in 5 years? I doubt it. I bought my Tesla on the basis of a lie. I was promised autosteer on city streets by the end of 2019. Three years later and it’s still nowhere near...

I bought my last two Audi A6s through an online broker and saved 22% on each of them. The people who pay full whack for everything subsidise discounts for the rest of us. That’s fine with me 😄✅

So if I manage to negotiate a lower price on some commodity or service I’m getting an unfair deal? Bartering is as old as civilisation itself and Musk/Tesla are not going to change that, except in their own unrealistic world. You carry on paying top whack for everything. I’m more than happy to...

Good grief, is that it? I knew progress has been minimal but I didn’t realise it was this bad.

I actually think the UI has got worse over the years. The update that shrunk the map on the screen was a big retrograde step. I embrace change, but not when it makes my car significantly worse. Over the last three years updates have given me small improvements (as well as a load of complete...

We’ve known that AHB is crap since the M3 reached these shores more than three years ago. It is remarkable that Tesla can take something that is already completely dysfunctional and release a software update that makes it even worse.

Good point, and this could be very problematic for Tesla because so many software releases are quite obviously deeply flawed, so much so that sometimes I think their software testers must be a bunch of 12 year olds. My latest update (2022.28.1) has caused raised beam to go on and off more often...

Same here. There is nothing ambiguous about “coming later this year”, but I’m sure someone will come along soon and explain why it wasn’t an inaccurate statement at all.

Are you truly convinced that, despite what Musk the Messiah says, your car has the necessary hardware to run FSD? Tesla have entered a multi $billion contract with Samsung to provide cameras with more than three times the resolution of the current cameras, and I can’t help thinking this is a...

I presume you mean you think FSD will be solved in the US by 2024? Personally I think there’s zero chance of that. But I’m more interested in what’s happening in the UK. Or rather the complete lack of anything happening. Would you care to predict when I’ll get the “auto steer on city streets”...

Good grief! This reminds me of a post I made three years ago suggesting that Tesla would soon have meaningful competition. The fanboys ridiculed me, assured me that Tesla were at least ten years ahead of anyone else and there would be no serious completion for many years. Three years on you can...

I do admire your optimism but I can’t say I share it. For me the developments you list haven’t translated into significant real world improvements. The auto wipers have improved somewhat but are still far from perfect. I still experience quite frequent episodes of phantom braking. I can’t...

Watching videos of what’s possible the latest beta software in the USA is neither relevant nor helpful to what is happening here. All Tesla’s development seems geared to the US market. Europe, and most especially the RHD market in the UK is being completely ignored. US are preparing the latest...

Just as likely is that Musk would predict with absolute certainty that they’re going to be Premier League champions every single year and not show the slightest bit of shame when they finish 16th. Bit like his predictions about FSD.