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Is this happening in a single ling drive from 90% to 20% or between multiple drives? Mine has a similar behavior if I have multiple drives, but able to drain the added amount if I take it on a single long drive. My guess is that at every stop some pumps are still running and decrease the...

Totally agree, but not sure I can get them in time for my 4000+ miles trip. My left wheel moves by hand when on the lift.

Hello, My rear toe arms are shut. Figured out too close to a planned road trip to order adjustable ones. After checking to the local SC, the part is for one side is 115CAD and the install 750CAD. Was wondering if there is a problem if I DIY it and cut the bolt and install a new one from the...

The rumor has it that they ran out of reman packs and people are getting the 350V even if they pay the reman price

Tell them to give you a quote for 1014116-00-C Or get the reman option and hope to get the new one as few have done here

Is the car a 90D in the app now?

From what I saw on my 85 pack (Jan 2015 build) and a 90 pack (Ludicrous enabled) end of 2015, voltage sag is very similar and the entire pack voltage drops close to 250V below 70% SOC and cells in the 2.5-2.6 V range. Not sure anymore that this is a valid pack health metric. On 85D this drop...

Have you tried to see how it does if you discharge it close to 0 and charge to 100%? From what you said before, even the capacity on the “new” one is lower than your failed pack. Have you told them this? At least in North America the warranty states that the new pack should have equal or better...

I am well aware of options, the newer one is appealing from charging speed perspective. Was curious to see if the parts have gone down as well, but no. I am not yet so pissed to trigger the upgrade, mine is still working.

I can confirm that the 90kWh C battery's price is the same.... Just got a quote of 26k CAD while the trade-in value for my '15 85D from Tesla is 21k CAD

If paid out of pocket, yes. But for those having a failure in the last months of warranty is not.

Cannot be called differently as it's different capacity. But I hope they will not provide any 85s reman, after seeing all issues with them

The new C pack have a new manufacture date on them. All reman carry the original packs date, even if -01 is added for reman. Anyone knows if before the 85kWh reman packs codes were visible in the parts catalogue? Was checking yesterday and no 85kWh reman was present, only a 90kWh for 2012-2016...

I wonder if battery replacement prices will also go down following the current new car prices. For my 85D Tesla is giving a 21k CAD trade-in, less than what a replacement pack is, reman or new

I would roll the dice and ask for a reman pack replacement as it also comes with the same warranty and we saw you can actually get the new pack instead.

Tried as well some other scenarios and driving without any WOT does not trigger any power limit below 30% (unless pushed). Will test the car next month from Montreal to South Florida. If it doesn’t break with all Supercharger stops she’s a keeper. Was looking to jump into a newer one, but would...

I would search 90Ds advertised as having battery replacement and check if they have the new 350V

That’s interesting. Wonder if this trigger is only for certain cars or it’s a fleet update for all 85s.

Based on the numbers of 212-214Ah it seems to be per group of 74 cells, so only 1-2% variation

@aerodyne , @wk057 what is an acceptable CAC imbalance? Did some comps with my friend's P90D and while his pack had same voltage drops (but no power limits), his CAC imbalance was at 4.2Ah on SMT, compared to my 2.5Ah

@wk057 thank you for the insight on the profile tweaks. While the regen limits based on temps are not a concern as they go as the battery heats up, the power limit won't go away. Had it come at 29% and battery over 20 Celsius and did not go away even when the battery went up to 30 degrees. The...

The menu is now gone, was a leftover from MCU1 root. Gone when I pressed by mistake the right wheel. Well, SMT to the rescue. I have no battery test in Service menu and not sure if legacy S should have it. At rest the imbalance seems very low, between 6 and 10mV most of the time, with over 200mV...

Happy new year, Everyone! Opened a new request with all the data and got an answer from the owner’s manual…basically telling me the car can limit power for many reasons, but nothing specific to my case. At this point, every time I leave the car parked under 30% for few hours it will get power...

You won the lottery. This is a very good way of dealing with out of warranty, at least until they won’t allow remans to be ordered.

@tubaprde are on the original battery? Seems very unlikely to get 148kW on 85 packs. Not even 100D can go that high

73.2kWh on a 106k miles (171k km) March 2015 85D 71.7kWh on yours seems pretty low. How much you had on the failed pack?

Have put my theory to the test yesterday. Went for a short drive to do some pulls on the highway (nothing crazy, but power limit activated every time). Arrived home with 25%, battery at 25 degrees Celsius, no power limit present. Left it for few hours and surprise, lost 4% and power limit...

My 85D pack started few months ago to have some new behavior on power limit, but also have noticed high consumption. Around 0 degrees celsius I am around or even higher than 280Wh/km or 450Wh/mi, definitely high. For me Tesla SC just checked the logs remotely and said all good. This are the...

It’s a 2015 85D. The car was rooted on MCU1 and after upgrade to MCU2 the debug profile carried over :) After the Holiday update I did Yesterday, the car is slower and power limit comes on later due to the lower power demand. So pissed I hit that update icon…

Adding the visuals from the case above. Starting from the heated garage: After 20km of driving: After 4h outside: Back home after another 20km

Battery too cold, SOC too low, voltage too low, all these can limit power. It all depends if it’s consistent or not. For me it’s all over the place since almost 2 months ago. Two days ago the 150kW limit came on 29% and stayed until charging at 5%. And yes, battery was above 20 degrees celsius...

Yes, but based on what’s happen in the background they will trigger some changes to protect the battery. I see on mine a lot of power limits that are triggered based on voltage drops (that I see in scan my tesla) that were not there 2 months ago. It seems Tesla would do whatever they can to...

AP1 with MCU2 on 2022.44.2 have noticed new seat calibrations available in Service menu.

Have also sent a message to @wk057 to see if there is a way to check battery health, but I know they are pretty busy. My warranty will run in March, would try to put as much strain on it if we determine that the pack is actually having issues. From what I can tell the software is trying as much...

Between 2 charges (2 days) I see up to 15kWh missing between the amount charged and used.... And tesla is not helping with anything as you are saying...if there is no error triggered they don't care or have the expertise to properly check the logs.

How big of a voltage sag are you noticing on the P85D under load?

My issue continue, same power limits at wot on highway, but no BMS errors. Other than that I can not use the entire battery capacity that Input in. Yesterday arrived home with 19% at home, 2h later went to plug in, the car was reporting 15%. That was down from 90% the day before, for a total of...

Thank you for that insight. Unfortunately the power limits are still present and now there is a permanent one below 20% (battery is hot enough to not have power/regen limits). On top of this, I am not able to use more than 61 kWh on a full charge. Based on scan my tesla numbers I should have...

Opened a service request with my local SC. They pulled the logs and no surprise, everything is ok on their side on the battery. It seems anything before a failure is ok :) Will ask them how come the DI w166 _hvilOutOfBounds did not popped-up in their assessment (still active in service menu)

That’s what my local SC is also doing… When had issues with the suspension arms they have replaced every single one on the car during 2 visits, steering rack in the second visit and as the problem was still present they replaced the stabilizer ends in a third one. For the first 2 I had to pay...

As I am experiencing some weird behaviors lately, have started looking into what can cause them and what should be the expected performance from such pack. At this point naming it 85kWh is anecdotal, but I’ll stick to the label. Early cars are prone of failure due to water infiltration, very...

Only bought the car 20k miles ago, currently sitting at 105k miles. No issues or power limits until 1 month ago when initially I thought is due to outside temperature. Before it was only limiting around 7% SOC. Now it’s visible below 50% acceleration when the battery cannot maintain high...

Thank you. Unfortunately it doesn’t show if the voltage sag contributes to the lower power. For me the sag is between 25 to 30% on WOT which seems high.

At what SOC is the 85 battery supposed to start power limiting? And have anyone tried to log the stats on hard acceleration? Mine has a voltage drop of over 100V, making it going down to 250V below 50% and at 270V at above 80%. At higher SOC the amperage is high and can still deliver the power...

At around 40% when the pack voltage is at at around 350V, wot is dropping the pack voltage at 250V. The amperage cannot follow and power is reduced. Releasing the accelerator the pack voltage goes back to 350V. At 21% the power limit came in and only grew bigger until 15% when I plugged the car...

Update from SC, they want to perform a HV circuit integrity test:

WOT for 4 seconds triggers now the power limit. After releasing it goes away. Arrived at home I have the power limit active on the rear drive unit and the HVIL message is present in service menu. Will give it another charge cycle and open a ticket to Tesla

Stats after the last charge: 98.7 km for 26.5kWh (268Wh/km) - high, but let's say ok for the temp. Percentage of battery used: 47% - does not make sense as the car is parked most of the time in a heated garage (20 degrees Celsius). It stayed outside for only 3h since charge without significant...

Yesterday also had intermittent power and regen limits with battery above 18 celsius. Found these codes in the service menu

The 60 is for sure limited in term of value. What about a 85kWh to upgrade to a pack with 90kWh modules (77.4 kWh capacity+) to get a bit of extra range and possibly higher supercharging speeds?