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  1. M

    Selling 2016 Model S 75D 113K Miles

    You're acting as if this car doesn't already exist in the world and thus, is impossible to value. In reality, there are plenty of cars just like yours and the market has established a pretty clear value for such cars. Long term value propositions like the ones you keep repeating, are...
  2. M

    FSD Beta Videos (and questions for FSD Beta drivers)

    Respectfully, it's not about averages. It's about edge cases and if you can't solve for every edge case then you don't have full self driving. What you have is this new made up nomenclature that Tesla calls Autosteer on city streets, which most people seem to think is full self driving when in...
  3. M

    FSD Beta Videos (and questions for FSD Beta drivers)

    Before anyone calls me a hater, I paid and upgraded to FSD/ HW3 this summer in my Model 3. I'm excited for the promise that has been made to me but I was also excited for the same promise when it was made to me 5 years ago after Tesla's sudden split with Mobileye forced them to create their own...
  4. M

    Wanted to Buy: 2016 - 2017 Model X 90D/ 100D - PuP, AP2, UHFS

    Duplicate post. My apologies.
  5. M

    Wanted: 2016 - 2017 Model X 90d/ 100d w/ AP2, PUP and UHF

    Hey all, it's been a few years since I've posted regularly but it seems like this isn't the place to go for used Teslas any longer. Am I wrong? Back in 2015 - 2016 there'd be posts from the same day on page 4. Now it seems there's posts from 3 days ago on the first page. If this isn't the place...
  6. M

    EAP to FSD - bite the bullet now or risk it?

    Remember everyone grabbing FSD to get smart summon? These cool looking features end up being parlor tricks. If owners are being honest, I would posit that an overwhelming majority used smart summon several times upon it's release and have used it a handful of times since. It's legit embarrassing...
  7. M

    EAP to FSD - bite the bullet now or risk it?

    With all due respect, it's not about how astounding the odds are or what a difficult problem this is to overcome. I don't think anyone doubts that it's a difficult problem to overcome and that's the point. Surely Tesla knew the same thing in 2017. So were they incompetent or were they...
  8. M

    EAP to FSD - bite the bullet now or risk it?

    Also FSD is a complete farce and I can't reasonably bring myself to upgrade from EAP given how comically poor the car performs in just about any edge case. I don't think we'll ever see true level 5 full self driving with the current hardware suite and I LOVE Elon Musk but I think what Tesla has...
  9. M

    EAP to FSD - bite the bullet now or risk it?

    You're old fashioned or (and I know this might be a shocker) human beings are nuanced and not everything is black and white. I live in Southern California. We have some of the best driving roads in the world. We also have some of the worst traffic in the world. There are plenty of opportunities...
  10. M

    2013 85kWh Model S $23,500 So California

    I've always loved this color. Just sent you a message.
  11. M

    Lease end experience?

    I turned in my P85D in March of 2019. They gave me a 10 day grace period. I made an appointment, they quickly inspected it, billed me for additional mileage and that was it.
  12. M

    Salvage Car Owners Support Group.

    That was my thought as well. That's why I really want to get a meter on it but was hoping there was some other common issue.
  13. M

    Salvage Car Owners Support Group.

    I’ve owned and worked on salvage Tesla’s before. I’m not new to the game and already chased down and fixed a bunch of issues on this car. I don’t have the car in front of me to troubleshoot though and thought I’d ping the collective experience of others to see if there was a well known reason...
  14. M

    Salvage Car Owners Support Group.

    Hey guys and gals! I'm looking at a salvage Model 3 and have a few questions. Things appear to have changed a lot since I had my last salvage Model S in 2015. The car has a 12v battery warning despite having had it's battery replaced with a new one the owner bought from Tesla. Is this is a...
  15. M

    Do I just sue Tesla? New record for getting Powned

    The issue he's going to run into is that an arbitrator isn't going to understand cars well enough to know whether he's right or Tesla is but as someone that's been in the industry for a long time, it's kind of silly of Tesla to assert that his 12v battery resulted in any kind of damage to the...
  16. M

    "Acceleration Boost" option, discussion as to which models and how much quicker

    If you have FSD you won't see the upgrades page. If you don't have FSD and have the upgrades page but don't have a payment method on file you won't see the disclaimers on the bottom of the page.
  17. M

    "Acceleration Boost" option, discussion as to which models and how much quicker

    This appears to be only for the LR AWD. There are no other versions of the text in the code with the exception of different languages and different units of measurement. If that's the case, $2000 for 4.4 to 3.9 seconds is underwhelming. Wasn't $2000 all Tesla was charging for the stealth P3D?
  18. M

    "Acceleration Boost" option, discussion as to which models and how much quicker

    Additional info... There's versions of this in various different languages and different units of speed measurement. Interesting enough, there's only the one english version and that cites the change from 4.4 to 3.9 seconds. Sounds like this is a modest improvement for the LR AWD cars but...
  19. M

    "Acceleration Boost" option, discussion as to which models and how much quicker

    I hate to interrupt the debt conversation with trivial stuff but I dug this up in the source code on my upgrades page. I have a LR RWD. There are different versions of this statement. Will follow up with more in a moment.
  20. M

    MASTER THREAD: 2019.36.2.1 - new HOLD mode and other features

    It makes sense as one would think intertial regen at low speeds would be quite low.
  21. M

    MASTER THREAD: 2019.36.2.1 - new HOLD mode and other features

    Long range rear wheel drive here. Number 4xx off the assembly line. It's hard for me to quantify how much I enjoyed this update without sounding dramatic. I came from a P85DI Model S and have a performance automotive background. I've always loved fast cars but found the speed of the P85D to be...
  22. M

    Loud pop from front dash speaker

    Knowing me, probably Panic at the Disco or Fall Out Boy. Perhaps the car was just protesting my music choices? It's truly becoming sentient!
  23. M

    MASTER THREAD: 2019.36.2.1 - new HOLD mode and other features

    Downloading 36.2.1 right now. I am excite. I think I'm more excited for one pedal driving than I was for youtube/ Netflix or Beach Buggy Racing.
  24. M

    Loud pop from front dash speaker

    K, I'm not the only one! Same thing. Pop and then I lost the entire front soundstage. I did a reboot and they came right back. No issues since. I assume it's a bug in the software that puts the amp into protection mode under certain circumstances.
  25. M

    Long Range, Rear Wheel Drive Owners - Step in Please

    I'm aware. Thank you for your input.
  26. M

    Long Range, Rear Wheel Drive Owners - Step in Please

    I'm simply trying to graph where range is for any given percentage number. It's not wildly scientific but you can pick outliers and that's what I'm trying to see. The more data we have, the more we can confirm that the outliers are indeed outliers. We can sit and pontificate about version...
  27. M

    Long Range, Rear Wheel Drive Owners - Step in Please

    Lost it completely back down to 310?
  28. M

    Long Range, Rear Wheel Drive Owners - Step in Please

    I don't necessarily agree. A larger data sample is going to point out outlier's and from there we can speculate why the outliers exist.
  29. M

    Long Range, Rear Wheel Drive Owners - Step in Please

    Feel free to include last 6 of VIN if you'd like and I'll incorporate that as well. Mileage also helps.
  30. M

    Long Range, Rear Wheel Drive Owners - Step in Please

    Hello ladies and gents. I'm trying to graph some data for the OG long range, rear wheel drive cars and I'm wondering if you might take a brief moment to help me by sharing some data from your car. Here's what I need: Your range at 80% charge. Your range at 90% charge. Your range at 100% charge...
  31. M

    Range Loss Over Time, What Can Be Expected, Efficiency, How to Maintain Battery Health

    It's not. I hate to disparage a Tesla tech or come off as condescending but most franchise mechanics are adept at very few tasks and might be able to perform what to you and I seems like insanely complicated jobs but often they do so without even a basic understanding what caused the very...
  32. M

    Range Loss Over Time, What Can Be Expected, Efficiency, How to Maintain Battery Health

    This is fundamentally inaccurate. The rated range that is displayed on the left side of the screen in the Model 3 is just that: rated range. It's based on a fix kWh/m which may or may not apply to everyone in every circumstance but it is not adjusted for variances in average kwh/m consumption...
  33. M

    Model 3 LR RWD picked up range in 2019.32.12.2 - Anyone else

    It's confusing really and it can't be accurate because it would equate to zero degradation which hasn't ever been my experience with any of my Teslas. It's also weird that the whole reason I checked this is because M3 owners were complaining of lower range on 32.12.2 and I went and found the...
  34. M

    Model 3 LR RWD picked up range in 2019.32.12.2 - Anyone else

    I'm talking specifically 2019.32.12.2
  35. M

    Need help deciding between Performance and Long Range Model 3?

    I came from a 2015 P85D with Insane mode. That car was stupid fast and it wasn't even the fastest Model S by a wide margin. I currently have a RWD LR Model 3 which is slower than the AWD car you'd be getting and I find the speed of even the RWD car to be a lot of fun. It's faster than pretty...
  36. M

    Model 3 LR RWD picked up range in 2019.32.12.2 - Anyone else

    I posted this on Reddit and everyone that stated they had any kind of change in range posted that they had a drop. I noticed a modest increase in my range and I'm wondering if I'm the only one. My car is a 2017 Long Range Rear Wheel Drive Model 3. Previous 100% charge was 321 miles. Current...
  37. M

    Still not being charged for supercharging

    Part of me just wants to STFU about this but I'm also trying to understand why this is happening. I bought a 2017 M3 LR in June. It was used and owned by a Tesla employee. It's VIN 0004xx so it's a very early car with the hard seats (boo) and alcantara headliner (yay). This is my fourth Tesla...
  38. M

    2017 M3 Long Range - EAP - 17,000 miles - $42,000

    The car is an early VIN (431) with all options, great panel fit, alcantara headliner, etc. It is basically flawless. No issues at all. Selling to send my daughter to a private school so I can win that dad of the year award. Car is located in LA (Studio City area) 17000 Miles Enhanced...
  39. M

    Free Supercharging

    Is this supposed to be snark? Do you not think I did that? Thank you. It says pay per use however... No charges for me either. I'm coming from a Model S but in the Model 3's I've rented over the last couple years they always would show the per-kwh cost when you clicked on a station. Mine...
  40. M

    Model 3 Trade-In Tesla Offer - Need Advice!

    This is a private party sale car for sure. You've got one of the hottest cars on the road that people are easily selling for little less than they paid for them in many cases. Less so now with the price drops but still, they're not a hard sell if priced right. I'd give you a quick $31,000 for it...
  41. M

    Free Supercharging

    Did any Model 3's other than the Performance (for a short time) get this? I recently purchased a 2017 which was one of the first cars made (VIN: 000431) and it was purchased from an employee. The car has been removed from his account and added to mine. I have no referrals and thus no free...
  42. M

    2017 Model 3 - Long Range, Enhanced Auto Pilot, 19" Wheels - $44,000

    I literally just bought this Saturday and think I might have gotten a little over rambunctious. I'm in the middle of a divorce and might have bought what I wanted instead of what I need. The car is an early VIN (431) with everything installed, great panel fit, alcantara headliner, etc. It is...
  43. M

    WTB: Model 3, EAP or FSD, LR RWD or AWD - SoCal preferred

    I'm open to a rear wheel drive car with EAP, a combination I can't get any longer. I'd have to go AWD with either basic autopilot or FSD if I wanted summon, lane changing, navigate on Autopilot, etc.
  44. M

    WTB: Model 3, EAP or FSD, LR RWD or AWD - SoCal preferred

    As the the title suggests, I'm looking for a Model 3 in SoCal. I'm not too concerned about color or wheels. I do want the long range battery and don't care about rear wheel drive or all wheel drive. Full Self Driving is great but the car must have at least enhanced autopilot. If it's one of the...
  45. M

    Why are P85D's "cheap" now?

    I have a P85D on lease that I just extended for 6 months. I think the reason you're seeing them drop is because they're all AP1 cars, they're all pre-facelift and like it or not, the Model 3 is forcing down prices of the S. The car in the original post is basically what I have and if I'm being...
  46. M

    Wanted: Lease Takeover S or X

    Feel free to shoot me details. I rent mine out pretty regularly and I've found that the cars I own are a lot more stressful to see get small scratches than the cars I lease. So that's why I was looking out for a lease. But I'd open to see what you have.
  47. M

    Wanted: Lease Takeover S or X

    I have a lease that's up in a couple months. I'm debating buying the 3 or perhaps taking over someone's Model S or X lease. I already have a Lease through Tesla (US Bank) so I know I'm approved. Let me know what you have!
  48. M

    Used P85D v performance Model 3?

    I have a P85D. I love it. It is the best car I've owned. But my lease is up on it in 2 months and even compared to the standard long range Model 3 I can't make a solid case for buying another S. The cost proposition just isn't there unless you absolutely need that hatch or the few "extra"...
  49. M

    Returning a Lease Car with Accident Damage

    So nobody has been here before? Well poop.

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