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“Falling short” is being kind to Tesla. It was like they didn’t even try.

It wasn’t so much individual cells vs overall pack architecture. Get some real world data.

Do you tow 10,000 lbs daily? This is like suggesting Tesla will deny warranty claims for people who drive at 80mph every day vs those who only drive at 40mph. If they would deny claims for towing, they wouldn’t support towing. And they would limit the rate of discharge to protect the battery...

I understand this. I wouldn’t call it reliability upgrades. It would be capacity upgrades. Reliability is putting in more durable parts so they don’t break. creating something more reliable doesn’t make it perform better.

Yes, I understand that part. Just thinking about how individual cells get charged and how that affects the overall pack when they are connected back in parallel. Seems like overall pack health and cell balancing would be negatively affected with this charging infrastructure. And one more piece...

Yes, I did and already commented on it. Not sure where this is going. Someone else other than you and me is making this a big deal. My point was more about the miles than the price. Commenting on one without the other doesnt give the whole picture.

Ugh, hate it when I answer my own question in the negative with more searching. Looks like 34x 80A L2 and 1x 120kw L3 from the plans here. https://greshamor-energovweb.tylerhost.net/apps/SelfService#/permit/d4c33cbf-cff8-4b5a-8ea2-6f3a50c44a81?tab=attachments

Interesting permits and dig tickets for Pepsi/Frito Lay in Gresham. 3 electrical circuits in a parking lot improvement permit valued at over $1 million. Not sure if just the electrical or total project. Applicant is Kimley Horn, longtime Tesla partner. Dig ticket for electric vehicle charging...

That snippet is not the post I linked. Click it and you’ll see. This site doesn’t display the actual post I linked. He said you claimed over $100k months ago yet recently you claimed there weren’t rumors of it being a 50% increase over the initial pricing from 2019. Those two statement are...

iffy. You’ll likely need 600 mile range to reliably tow 250. EVs are not meant for heavy towing. If you’re towing route is remotely hilly add more range. It’s not just Tesla. It’s EVs in general. Look how much battery the Semi needs for 500 mile range. If you don’t mind stopping to charge...

You haven’t been following the other threads. https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/posts/7935834/

V3 posts haven’t changed. Cords aren't longer. Tesla has a lease agreement with the landowner. They wouldn’t build the site if there was a legal issue with the landowner. It would be spelled out in the lease. Unsure what legal,issues wioukd be involved with PG&E.

So it’ll start high and Taper for half the pack then repeat? Unless it is constantly switching between the 2 halves this seems very unoptimized.

Is the coding guaranteed through all future software upgrades?

“Reliability upgrades”? Agree it sounds like they are bringing in more power to handle peak demand for these sites. Specifically mentioning EV charging ports tells you what is involved indirectly.

And 180 miles less? Don't bury the lead. If it was $100k and 500 miles that is one thing. So they just added a 3rd motor to lower 1.5 seconds on 0-60 and a higher top speed? Same battery size? Why would anyone order a tri motor for $20k more? It does not have a higher towing capacity and...

With that many workers and equipment on site, I’d guess there was digging by the end of the day.

Inspection passed. Notes give you a location in the Truck Stop lot, southwest corner.

Based on what we know on the Cybertruck battery, working backwards leads me to believe the 4680 MY AWD was an engineering testbed for the Cybertruck. Usable battery on the MY is estimated to be 67.5kwh. Usable on the CT is around 130. 2x67.5=135. Using 2x MY 4680 400v batteries gets you to 800V...

You can’t just use percent. You have to use kw. 40% of the Hummer EV battery is 80kw. That would be like an entire MY charge session in 15 minutes. 50% of your model 3 is about 30 kWh so 30x4=120kw average charging speed. For the hummer that would be 320kw average.

Yeah, because the CT is so much less complex than a MY.

There are no V4 cabinets so all those CT owners who rush to a V4 site are going to get the same experience as every other V3 site on the planet. Oh, they get a longer cord so they don’t have to touch the charge post to make it reach… An interesting tidbit, the specs say max 250kw. Not even a...

Yes, so while 4680 offers efficiencies of more stuffing per volume and lower cost to produce, that stuffing will take longer to heat up and then longer to cool down when it gets too hot. And they are only producing 4680 in Texas where this is made and that slowly ramping production led to CT...

Here’s an article from 2019 about the initial reveal. https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/hybrid-electric/a29891717/tesla-cybertruck-facts/ ”The Final Product Could Be Less Than Advertised” ding ding ding Here is the 2019 reveal pricing: Single Motor RWD with 250+ miles of range, 0-60 mph...

Inspection requested for today so construction has started.

Also needs a final inspection on the new feeder from the permit above.

Without specs on towing capacity of the CT this is only speculation, but the main difference between the RWD CT and RWD MY other than the $17,000 price increase is towing capacity? Similar range and acceleration. Never made sense that the CT would be close to the same price as the MY. As...

definitely looks like they swapped them.

Seems that those who were super excited about the CT have been quiet since the event. Keep saying what you like but don't tell others they are debbie downers. You are entitled to your opinion as am I. You are not entitled to belittle others because they have different views than you. Be...

This will be the start of normal SC construction. Putting in conduit is why they need to dig. Companies use this field differently. Blackstone tends to mention the larger scope like an EV charging station but Podium is using it quite literally. They are also doing the Kirkland install.

If there isn’t someone sharing a cabinet with you at a V2 site, you will get the max speed your car can take as determined by your SoC and battery temp. At least in theory. The data for the map in the car and online was messed up this weekend. Someone was doing some work on the backend and it...

If pointing out things that are incorrect is bringing the mood down, that’s sad. Ignoring common sense and real world examples that disprove things you post is just being ignorant. It’s not being excited about something coming out. Sure it’s disappointing when something doesn’t arrive as...

They go for short term gains from these speculations about future products and hope stock owners forget about the when the products come in underperforming and/or the resultant price drop will be less than the initial gain.

You first agreed with the original picture and stated there wouldn’t be rear view mirrors because it would be on the center screen. Then this person literally said the “mirror” in his showroom is digital and talked to the guy who drove it (Tesla employee) said the “mirror” is a screen showing...

Sure about that? App shows 40 stalls at 150kw for Baker. There is an addition of V3 stalls but it isn’t working yet. The map showing 45 stalls and 250kw max is an error. Check the thread for the Baker site, many people confirmed the expansion is still roped off.

13 is the main power tie in as evidenced by the transformer for the building. 8 is where the transformer will go and there will be more conduit from 8 to 1 to get to the switchgear cabinet. If it isn’t ready there.

Well considering they lowered it from 90 to 80, Tesla has reason to believe that 10p% is harmful to the battery. If you want to ignore it, you are in the minority and the warning should stay there for the rest of the users who haven’t a clue and will complain about degradation following constant...

There are 4 L2 per the plans. That is just the handicapped access one. You need 6 or more destination chargers to use the billing portion. Usually these are added per the site owner so it might not fall under the supercharger billing by Tesla. But that is information from Tesla just for L2, not...

The article says it will have superchargers. Whether they are in the service area or open to the public is another story. Seeing the actual plans will tell us that, a reporter, not really. “The 41,169 square-foot dealership will have a showroom and a service center, documents filed with the...

App is back to 40 and 150kw. I think someone has been doing some backend programming updating the sites where construction is in progress or soon to be and had some of that programming appear in the app. There were a couple other sites that showed expansion stalls as active or included in the...

No, it’s not a software issue. All non LFP cars say not to charge to 100%. You have 2170 in your SR so you get the 2170 software stack which says not to charge to 100% even though it might be safe in your car. That is a separate issue. If you have LFP you get the LFP software stack and the...

Yeah a meter with zeros means power is on but hasn’t used any yet.

Someone was messing with the backend it appears. Maybe preloading expansion plans? Or updating the find us map and put stuff here?

Back to 20 stalls. Guessing the 28 was on the backend.

As far as I can find, aluminum Romex tops out at 2ga which is below 100A when rated for in wall use. This means they will likely use copper since anything else is going to require conduit or running MC or other protected cable through the studs. Romex is by far the easiest solution, especially...

Unfortunately all of this is in print. Which I assume means writing in your scenario. Battery day presentation, Cybertruck ordering page (since then down which proves they know they couldn’t meet their initial promises), end of quarter shareholder prensentstions, the list goes on. I am not...

Yes, I understand this and how the terms are "commonly used" but that is true for a lot of marketing and it is just spiel. Capacity installed >125,000 yet we are in "pilot production". Again, vague enough so they can do what they want and not get in trouble for intentionally misleading but if...

Electrical review approved 11/9 and the electrical permit is marked as Ready to Issue. Fees paid 11/16 so could see activity here soon.

Anyone swing through here on holiday travels?

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/supercharger-dublin-ca-amador-valley-blvd-live-3-nov-2023-12-v3-stalls.261474/ A bit to go. Stalls up Aug 2022 and just turned on Nov 2023.