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Three (related) questions: 1. Is there no FSDb (AutoSteer on Coty Streets) in 2023.44.1? The release notes on Teslafi seem to suggest so. 2. What release do folks currently on 2023.27.7 (FSDb 11.4.7.3) think we need to be on to get Holiday Update on the holiday? 3. What’s the best/proper way...

“Unsupervised FSD is trending well.” Where exactly? In simulations? On a secret test track somewhere? Because AFAIK there is no unsupervised FSD on any road anywhere.

I think it suggests a rollout of v12 to prerelease testers by Summer or Fall.

Awesome. Christmas gift idea for the wife! Edit: just to be clear, a gift idea for her to give to me. :)

Math humor. Fun!

Right. No rational person would interpret “Update coming in January” from the CEO of the company as a “guess.”

Everything I’ve promised in my life that I didn’t deliver is simply late, I guess.

+1 for CarPlay. My iPhone has my favorite media apps, mapping apps, games, news apps, browser, etc. already installed with an order or two of magnitude better data connection.

Tesla FSD certainly doesn’t!

BTW, I have no idea where that picture attached to my original post came from. That’s not my car and the map in the screen is not my area. I certainly don’t remember attaching a picture to the post, nor does that picture appear to have any relevance to the post content.

My opinion, as made clear in the original post, is expressed based on my own experience with FSD feature set over the last 5 years. This is bound to be different from the opinions of people formed from viewing other people's experience on YouTube. Elon's demo of v12 was just his (one)...

My Model 3 was delivered in mid-August 2018. While I originally just had Enhanced Autopilot (EAP), I quickly paid the extra $2000 to get FSD as rumors swirled about Tesla charging more in the future. What's my opinion after 5 years of testing and playing with Tesla EAP and FSD? TLDR: It's pretty...

Sure is low and seems like it would be subject to debris and damage. However, it also looks like an easy place for a retrofit.

It’s not reading the sign, though. Reading the sign would involve determining the lettering, words, or symbology they’re upon, establishing the meaning of the words or symbology, interpreting the rule from the meaning, and adding the rule to decision making. The NN is just saying “pixels of x...

It would not seem logical to think the inputs to the "control system" would be the outputs from the current occupancy, lane identification, sign recognition, light recognition, etc. NNs. What would be the point of that? If it's end-to-end NN, I would think it would be photons-in and acceleration...

That begs a somewhat unrelated question: if they're starting from scratch, then what's the point of 11.4.7?

Except the vision-based autonomy doesn't know the rules - that's my point. There are no rules, just trained to drive like humans have driven in similar situations. This seems like an approach problem. The autonomous driving system has the opportunity to know A LOT MORE than the human driver. It...

Again, that whole video analysis relies on a belief that everything Elon is saying is both true and 100% technically accurate. But Elon has shown time and time again that he is not always truthful and/or doesn’t 100% know what is actually going on “under the hood.” So like everything Elon, take...

Yes. Actually very disappointed to see it on a 2023.7 branch. Means many more weeks of being months and months behind in firmware fixes and new features. I was hoping we would all get to move to 2023.26.10 before they continued the line.

It will be interesting to see what "next-generation active radar and lidar sensors" are implemented to achieve the "eyes-off/hands-off" functionality.

I don't believe in worship of man, so no man will ever be a god to me nor will his words be divine. I very much celebrate Elon's contributions made in both EVs and the commercialization of spaceflight. Doesn't mean I have to appreciate the man lying to me on a consistent basis. Besides, I...

That would certainly explain why some of them (eventually) hit.

Right, what Elon has established for me with all of his forward looking statements regarding FSD, Tesla in general, and even SpaceX (Starship) is that nothing that Elon says with regard to forward looking statements - either timeline or capability - has any connection to reality whatsoever. What...

Again, criminal liability and civil liability are two completely different things. The former is to dissuade reckless or immoral behavior while the latter is to assign responsibility for loss to make sure innocent victims are made whole. In your specific example, only the person driving the car...

It seems the more people are sure about what "the law" is, the more wrong they tend to be. "The law" you are talking about is torts - it's civil liability that in most cases is based on precedent, facts, and equity. It's not like criminal law where everything is set forth in criminal code. For...

I wasn’t really interested in the status (technical or perceived) of FSDb 11.3.6. Just wanting to know if unclicking “Beta” button would allow the firmware 2023.20.8 to download to my car and I still had FSDb 11.3.6 available (as opposed to 20237.20 with 11.4.4 I have now). Sounds like if I did...

Evidently many didn’t read beyond “beta” (note the quotes). The specific question was will a firmware version with 11.3.6 run FSD on a car without the “Beta” firmware button turned on?

Is FSD v11.3.6 out of "Beta" status? In other words, if I turn off the "FSD Beta" button and let my car update to the latest firmware, will I get like firmware version 2023.20.8 with FSD v11.3.6. I ask because there seems to be a lot of cars on Teslafi on version 2023.20.7 and 2023.20.8 - far...

I would suggest that an ADS that necessitates a driver for entering and exiting the ODD on every drive is stretching the bounds of what can be classified as L4. Regardless, you are arguing semantics at this point. Deliver the 95% to me now and I will intervene and drive for the other 5%. If you...

As many (including you, I believe) have previously asserted, there is a big jump in capabilities between L3 and L4 - true driverless, fallback routines, possible remote intervention, etc. That takes developmental time, infrastructure, approvals, more sensors (?), etc. And for what? So I can sit...

80% of the U.S. population live in a handful of metropolitan areas. If you are using automation to build a driverless taxi service, then L4 in ODD of those metro areas is the perfect design approach. L4 or L5 automation in consumer vehicles is practically useless, IMO. Give me a solid L3 on...

The only way for it to reach L4 by the end of the year is to limit the ODD to whatever commute to Tesla HQ Elon drives on a regular basis that gives him such confidence to speculate.

I would settle for transfer to new Tesla.

“Actual FSD” is perfect. 😉 Seriously though, what does Elon do at this point if HW3 just doesn’t have the sensors or oomph to get it done? What is Tesla’s plan B? They are so backed into a corner on this thing that “beta” and “preview” and “next version x.x” is all they’ve got. But they can’t...

Also allows them to say they delivered on their promises for delivering FSD to the masses as an L2 driver assist feature. They can then move on to FSDUltra on HW4 and HW5 cars. My understanding is FSDUltra on HW4 will allow the car to operate as a robotaxi, increasing the value of the car to...

FSDb will accelerate aggressively when changing lanes into a tight gap or just after making a turn. But I don’t believe it will allow the car to go over the set speed. And from what I can tell it doesn’t really react to anything in the rear camera except for occasionally getting out of the left...

It's hard to figure out what one of these 4D radar unit costs. Some articles I read say they are roughly the same price per unit as the conventional 2D radar unit, and others suggest they are 10x more expensive - more in line with a low-end LIDAR unit. With Tesla manufacturing their own, they...

The 4D radars utilized by NVIDIA’s Drive platform when integrated with cameras can be used to create impressive occupancy networks with similar resolution and accuracy to LIDAR but without the expense, and without the latency and errors inherent in a vision only occupancy networks like Tesla...

One man’s anger is another man’s clarity. ;) Am I disappointed? Yes. But it’s not like I drove my Tesla down to Elon’s tiny house at Boca Chica and did donuts in his yard. Elon and Tesla and SpaceX are doing crazy, wonderful things. But you must admit dude is certainly eclectic and can be...

First off, I don't know where you get "angry" from. But maybe believing in Elon's flights of fancy so whole heartedly as you do you've forgotten that there's another viewpoint out there - one that's driven by common sense. Many of these posts that you think are "so funny" may just be from folks...

All I’ve ever wanted is L3 on highways (traffic or no) and that’s pretty much what I thought I was buying in 2018. It’s the only thing that makes sense to me in a consumer car. Tesla could have been there by now and been the first, but their naive and somewhat childlike CEO took the project a...

Are you in Great Britain?

We’ll just have to see who gets to L3 first. My bet is on Mercedes.

Ah. But I would think SuperCruise would have the interstates between LA and NY well-covered, but I could be wrong. And if it can handle those interstates L3 instead of "hands-on-the-wheel" L2 as in Tesla's case, I would think for me at least SuperCruise still comes off as a superior product.

What's Tesla's "geofenced" competition (and please don't say Cruise or Waymo)?

Well, this was all on the interstate, where just riding in the left lane is illegal.

I would characterize it as any dramatic slowing that a human would never expect and would never do themselves unless they were hard braking for a visible obstacle. How much speed is reduced (and whether things fly off seats) just depends on how long the NNs think that something is there. Usually...

I get that, but even if driving at the set speed is making progress getting past (or passed?) the truck, it still dramatically slows down on the detected possible encroachment. I guess I feel like that would never be my choice unless I was in maybe the rear 1/5th of the truck - especially if...

Phantom braking is still present on the highway in 11.4.2. Has it gotten better in 11.4.2? Maybe, but it's hard to tell. I haven't had frequent phantom braking problems (i.e. more than 2 over 100 miles or so) in a while now. There is a "new" braking situation in 11.4.2 that is dangerous...

I would think everyone who has experience phantom braking on NoA or FSDb v11+ knows what we are talking about when we say "phantom braking." No, it's not stopping. No, it's not slowing down for slow/stopped traffic in front of it or in the adjacent lanes. No, it's not AEB braking (because that...