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  1. TSemi

    Tesla Unionization

    WHAT IN THE WORLD!! THE NORDS HAVE GONE BERSERK!! This is pretty big news! A government entity of Norway is pressuring Tesla into a collective bargaining agreement with IF Metall. The Government Pension Fund Norway (GPFN) is managed by Norges Bank Investment Management (NBIM)...
  2. TSemi

    Tesla Unionization

    The German media has been hands-off lately when reporting about the Tesla/IF Metall conflict. They may have reported something at the beginning when I wasn't checking at that time. I've scanned through a few publications lately like Der Spiegel, Die Welt, Handelsblatt and a handful of the...
  3. TSemi

    Tesla Unionization

    https://www.kristianstadsbladet.se/ledare/if-metalls-strejk-ar-omoralisk-och-maktfullkomlig/ Sofia Nerbrand: IF Metall's strike is immoral and full of power Voluntary agreements are much nicer and better than forcing yourself on your partner. The Tesla Model Y is the year's best-selling car -...
  4. TSemi

    Tesla Unionization

    I think you misunderstand something very important. The "agreements are public" refers to agreements already signed.
  5. TSemi

    Tesla Unionization

    That does seem odd and strange? I'm no expert in U.S. labor law but it would seem in a collective bargaining agreement that BOTH sides have to agree to all the terms before signing on. I guess Swedish labor law is a bit different in that respect, again just guessing.
  6. TSemi

    Tesla Unionization

    Also good: https://www.beyondo.se/news/five-myths-about-collective-agreements About half a million Swedes work in companies that do not have collective agreements. Their employers have found better and smoother ways to regulate wages and employment conditions. As many as six out of ten...
  7. TSemi

    Tesla Unionization

    This may help some in understanding some of the complexities of Tesla vs IF Metall. https://www.foretagarna.se/nyheter/riks/2023/november/ett-nej-ar-ett-nej--aven-nar-det-galler-kollektivavtal/ A no is a no - even when it comes to collective agreements Published Nov 16, 2023 Trade unions must...
  8. TSemi

    Tesla Unionization

    Not really. Remember the goal is to bring Tesla to it's knees and force them into collective bargaining agreements.
  9. TSemi

    Tesla Unionization

    https://www.di.se/nyheter/pensionsjattens-hot-da-dumpar-vi-tesla/ The pension giant's threat: Then we dump Tesla Danish pension companies give up and dump Tesla shares. The Swedish AMF believes that it is possible to influence Elon Musk's electric car giant and keeps the holdings - for now...
  10. TSemi

    Tesla Unionization

    How utterly implausible.
  11. TSemi

    Tesla Unionization

    The UAW must be salivating over all these sympathy strikes and actions against Tesla 🤣
  12. TSemi

    Tesla Unionization

    Unions are rarely reasonable.
  13. TSemi

    Tesla Unionization

    Yes it is getting off topic, my apologies for bringing it up.
  14. TSemi

    Tesla Unionization

    Interestingly enough Sweden was one of the few nations not to promote mass immunization during Covid and came out just fine. They chose not to go along with the herd. But with the IF Metall/Tesla imbroglio it's a go along with the herd type mentality.
  15. TSemi

    Tesla Unionization

    IF Metall and other unions say Tesla needs to agree to collective bargaining agreements because it's for the greater good of Sweden.
  16. TSemi

    Tesla Unionization

    This one isn't paywalled: https://www.pionline.com/pension-funds/tesla-dumped-pensiondanmark-over-labor-issues Danish pension fund cuts Tesla over labor issues
  17. TSemi

    Tesla Unionization

    Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - Tesla lost a legal battle with Sweden's postal service on Thursday as a fight with Nordic trade unions escalates. A Swedish court said PostNord does not for the time being need to deliver...
  18. TSemi

    Will Tesla Semi be affected if Tesla becomes unionized?

    https://uk.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/norway-union-warns-it-may-block-tesla-cars-meant-for-sweden-3260445 OSLO (Reuters) - Norway's Fellesforbundet, the country's largest private sector labour union, said on Wednesday it could from Dec. 20 start blocking any transport of Tesla cars...
  19. TSemi

    Will Tesla Semi be affected if Tesla becomes unionized?

    Something is rotten in Denmark.......... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/05/danish-union-joins-strike-action-against-tesla-by-swedish-workers
  20. TSemi

    Will Tesla Semi be affected if Tesla becomes unionized?

    https://www.arbetaren.se/2021/05/14/junesjo-lo-forbunden-sitter-nu-fast-i-skiten/ Junesjö: "The LO unions are now stuck in the *sugar*" Translated to English: Several heavy-hitting experts warned of increased contract shopping with changed right to strike. Kurt Junesjö was one of them. With...
  21. TSemi

    Will Tesla Semi be affected if Tesla becomes unionized?

    https://www.nordiskaprojekt.se/2023/11/24/ikem-if-metalls-stridsatgarder-mot-hydro-extrusion-ar-orimliga/ Translated to English: IKEM: "IF Metall's industrial action against Hydro Extrusion is unreasonable!" By the Stordåhd Editorial Office |Friday 24 November 2023 at 11:57 In its conflict...
  22. TSemi

    Will Tesla Semi be affected if Tesla becomes unionized?

    Radio program is in Swedish https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/tesla-teknikern-jobbar-trots-strejken-besviken-pa-facket The Tesla technician works despite the strike: "Disappointed in the union" Text translated from Swedish to English: Published today at 12:30 p.m There is still no solution...
  23. TSemi

    Will Tesla Semi be affected if Tesla becomes unionized?

    https://www.thestreet.com/technology/tesla-ceo-elon-musk-technology-uaw-unionization Tesla's Musk has harsh take on unions as the UAW takes bold new step The union said in a statement that thousands of autoworkers at more than a dozen nonunion automakers had announced organizing campaigns to...
  24. TSemi

    Will Tesla Semi be affected if Tesla becomes unionized?

    I disagree.
  25. TSemi

    Will Tesla Semi be affected if Tesla becomes unionized?

    https://themessenger.com/business/swedish-union-leader-warns-tesla-is-a-threat-to-the-countrys-labor-model Swedish Union Leader Warns Tesla Is a ‘Threat’ to the Country’s Labor Model Elon Musk's electric vehicle company has refused to bargain with unionizing workers, leading to an onslaught of...
  26. TSemi

    Will Tesla Semi be affected if Tesla becomes unionized?

    I have been paying attention and it's still hard to believe. At Ars Technica it's pretty much the same.
  27. TSemi

    Will Tesla Semi be affected if Tesla becomes unionized?

    The anti-Musk sentiment in comment section is unbelievable. I've noticed this in other articles from Electrek about Tesla or Elon Musk as well. https://electrek.co/2023/11/28/tesla-sues-swedens-transport-agency-and-gets-a-small-win/
  28. TSemi

    Will Tesla Semi be affected if Tesla becomes unionized?

    The other 2 stories I read and posted gave a different view of the courts decision. Then later came across the Bloomberg article and FT article which gave a more detailed? take on the courts ruling.
  29. TSemi

    Will Tesla Semi be affected if Tesla becomes unionized?

    Just read this: https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/tesla-sues-swedish-state-postal-service-after-strike-actions Tesla Wins Injunction as Swedish Labor Battle Lands in Court (2) A Swedish county court issued a temporary injunction granting Tesla Inc. the right to take delivery of...
  30. TSemi

    Will Tesla Semi be affected if Tesla becomes unionized?

    There was no injunction. They won the suit. https://techcrunch.com/2023/11/27/sweden-sides-with-tesla-says-transport-agency-must-deliver-plates-or-pay-up/ A Swedish court ruled Monday that the country’s transport authority has to get Tesla its license plates, which are being blocked by...
  31. TSemi

    Will Tesla Semi be affected if Tesla becomes unionized?

    "Tesla should drag the Swedish Transport Agency before the Administrative Court," says Olle Lundin, professor of administrative law. Looks like Tesla took professor of adminstrative law Olle Lundin's advice...
  32. TSemi

    Will Tesla Semi be affected if Tesla becomes unionized?

    It appears Tesla has gotten caught up in more than what started as just a beef between mechanics at Tesla and Tesla(or was it?) in Sweden and has morphed into a gargantuan Swedish unions vs Tesla. Interesting thread https://x.com/NicklasNilsso14/status/1728343964434956308?s=20 You MUST read...
  33. TSemi

    Will Tesla Semi be affected if Tesla becomes unionized?

    https://x.com/NicklasNilsso14/status/1728180471434039369?s=20 Tesla sympathy strike threatens jobs at Swedish factory: "Great concern"The Union mission to stop Tesla is not going to work.The result - 50 Swedish jobs are now threatened!The Swedish Union, @ifmetall is just hurting the country...
  34. TSemi

    Will Tesla Semi be affected if Tesla becomes unionized?

    Article behind paywall but title says enough. https://fortune.com/europe/2023/11/24/elon-musk-tesla-labor-union-sweden-workers-strike-if-metall/ Elon Musk brands Sweden’s unions ‘insane’ after strikes cripple Tesla operations—but caving to any demands may open the floodgates in the U.S. and...
  35. TSemi

    Will Tesla Semi be affected if Tesla becomes unionized?

    Dagens industri is a financial newspaper in Stockholm https://www.di.se/nyheter/professorn-tesla-borde-ta-poststoppet-till-domstol/ The Professor: Tesla should take the mail stop to court The postal blockade that stops new registration plates for Tesla means that IF Metall's strike may end up in...
  36. TSemi

    Will Tesla Semi be affected if Tesla becomes unionized?

    Swedish Unions vs Tesla The Guardian: Tesla may have picked an unwinnable fight with Sweden’s powerful unions For the first time anywhere in the world, workers for the US carmaker Tesla have gone on strike. It’s not a coincidence that this strike is happening in Sweden, which has one of the...
  37. TSemi

    EV drivetrains take twice as long to assemble as internal combustion engines

    Actually it's hard to say if Tesla has any advantage at all.
  38. TSemi

    Will Tesla Semi be affected if Tesla becomes unionized?

    Well, well now. I guess the union membership aren't as proud of the "historic contract agreements" as UAW president Shawn Fain and his contract negotiators are/were. CNBC: Here's why the UAW's record deals with GM, Ford and Stellantis aren't getting full support NPR: Why thousands of UAW...
  39. TSemi

    EV drivetrains take twice as long to assemble as internal combustion engines

    Elon Musk has said on several occasions over the last few years that *production is hard* but he never went into extensive detail just a general overview about it. Manufacturing and mass production of EV autos at scale was new to Elon and the Tesla team when Model S went into production and...
  40. TSemi

    EV drivetrains take twice as long to assemble as internal combustion engines

    Really? A recent study by researchers at Carnegie Mellon University found that manufacturing EV motors and batteries required roughly double as many man-hours as an internal combustion engine — up to 24 hours per machine. “We were pretty surprised,” said Turner Cotterman, the lead on the...
  41. TSemi

    New video from Run On Less - Electric DEPOT - Pepsico Beverages NACFE about Tesla Semi

    https://news.yahoo.com/pepsico-reveals-truth-tesla-semitruck-113000730.html According to Amanda DeVoe, Pepsi’s transformation and strategy director, the company has found that it is most advantageous to run the trucks for around 12 hours a day on routes that are mostly under 100 miles...
  42. TSemi

    Will Tesla Semi be affected if Tesla becomes unionized?

    Teslarati: Tesla workers hard-pressed to join union despite UAW efforts: report Employees at Tesla’s Fremont factory appear to have mixed opinions about the United Auto Workers (UAW) union’s efforts to organize the facility. The UAW, after securing deals from the Detroit Big Three, is now...
  43. TSemi

    Supercharger - Houston, TX - H-E-B Montrose Tesla Superchargers being removed

    It seems parking spaces at HEB stores are at a premium.
  44. TSemi

    Supercharger - Houston, TX - H-E-B Montrose Tesla Superchargers being removed

    CHRON: Shoppers celebrate after H-E-B removes Tesla chargers from Montrose store The Montrose Market store saw congestion around the charging stations, shoppers said. Link: https://www.chron.com/culture/article/texas-heb-tesla-chargers-18462173.php
  45. TSemi

    Will Tesla Semi be affected if Tesla becomes unionized?

    Good point I had forgotten about Starbucks unionizing efforts. I followed this for a time and you are right not all locations were unionized but I haven't kept up with it for the last 2 yrs so not sure the status of how many Starbucks have unionized.
  46. TSemi

    Will Tesla Semi be affected if Tesla becomes unionized?

    Just curious. Let's say the UAW wins over Tesla Fremont plant workers and is unionized. Does this automatically make Gigafactory Nevada, Gigafactory New York and Gigafactory Texas unionized and represented by UAW or is it a plant to plant vote? The reason I ask is it would seem odd to have say...
  47. TSemi

    Will Tesla Semi be affected if Tesla becomes unionized?

    CNBC: UAW has Tesla, Toyota in its sights after contract wins at Detroit automakers Link: UAW has Tesla, Toyota in its sights after contract wins at Detroit automakers
  48. TSemi

    Will Tesla Semi be affected if Tesla becomes unionized?

    Unions are taking aim at Tesla! Tesla seems to be a major target for Unions. First Woman to Lead Germany’s Biggest Union Takes Aim at Tesla Christiane Benner to take helm of IG Metall next week Union negotiates wages affecting 3.9 million workers Bloomberg: First Woman to Lead Germany’s...
  49. TSemi

    Will Tesla Semi be affected if Tesla becomes unionized?

    UAW President Shawn Fain: "Workers at Tesla, Toyota, Honda, and others are not the enemy—they're the UAW members of the future." https://x.com/UAW/status/1713993846407733514?s=20 UAW This was in response to Bill Ford: Ford chair bashes UAW for escalating strike, says Ford is not the enemy —...
  50. TSemi

    Will Tesla Semi be affected if Tesla becomes unionized?

    Musk May Face Someone Else Who’s Ready for a Cage Fight Unionizing Tesla is an existential imperative for the UAW’s Shawn Fain, who shares the billionaire founder’s taste for hyperbole and confrontation. Denied the dubious spectacle of a cage match between Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg, the...