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With the recent electric school buses, 80A charging is not limited to Tesla anymore.
NEMA 5-15 is more useful for say apartment dwellers than 14-50 will ever be.
Note the 347/600V voltage, despite SaskPower supporting 277/480V.
I think it dates all the back to the AVCON days.
What is fun is the 150km one for Canada.
AFAIK they have a California-style EV mandate so they are legally required to sell to them.
And remember that the SR originally was going to be 46k.
The EV shortages in BC has been well known for a while now.
You mean 60A circuit and 48A charging, right?
Also there is the problem of wear and tear on the breakers.
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Plus the cost of the 14-50 outlet too.
The only reason NEMA 5-15 is still kept is that is requires no installation and is useful for things like apartment dwellers. GFCI outlets are...
I know. The point is this is part of why they are not shipping the 14-50 adapter with new cars anymore for example.
Yea, there is a reason why the NEC now require GFCI protection if you do it.
The 5-15 was out of stock at the time the decision was made.
They probably decided to produce more 5-15 adapters instead, as this is more useful particularly for apartment dwellers for example.
I wonder if you mean that the transformer is 50kVA. 208V at 30a would be 6kW.
For a good general purpose outlet useful for many vehicles (like RVs), NEMA 14-50 is still a good solution.
Notice this is despite the Ontario tax credit being cancelled.
Not to mention any other loads that are on the circuit too.
And these exchange rates changes often anyway.
Yea, that is my point, and it is what Tesla promised years ago at $46k.
I wonder why they limited it to 150km given that originally the SR was supposed to cost $46k in Canada.
I suggested a compromise involving a disconnecting switch as an alternative to a GFCI breaker and was rejected.
CMC has been sold for a long time.
For Canada they did it earlier to get ULC approval, and the problems with 40A was well known and ranged from RV parks often having problem with...
Thinking about it, Elon was suggesting a "dryer outlet" not that long ago.
And they probably decided to increase production of the 5-15 adapter partly because there was many apartment dwellers getting Model 3s.
Exactly. and notice the Gen2 UMC and J1772 are also "out of stock".
Hint: Think from Tesla's viewpoint where they ship it with every vehicle. The Gen2 UMC and J1172 adapter are also sold out too.
One thing I noticed is that the NEMA 5-15 adapter is listed as sold out right now on Tesla's store.
This is why I suggested the compromise involving the disconnecting switch.
Gen 1 used to run at 40A, but eventually the ULC (in Canada) asked it to be derated to 32A for a reason.
It is still probably better for EV newbies, especially if installed outside. That being said, I suggested a amendment allowing a disconnecting...
BTW, it is not NEC 2017, it is a TIA. I suggested a amendment allowing a disconnecting switch instead and it was rejected.
Yes, this is about the next NEC 2019.
Personally, I am glad that RV parks and the like use non-locking outlets, but this should not make charging on locking outlets not possible.
Yea, my point is that this is probably why Tesla ended up pulling this product in the first place.
This is my rejected amendment:
Who would like to charge on locking NEMA outlets?
That is normal I think. I suspect the limit is probably 12.5kW.
What is fun is in Canada where 347/600 is standard and most DCFC chargers including Tesla's use 277/480. Of course, I don't know exactly what...
Thinking about Japan, I hope that the lower 108V charging limit has been fixed by now.
I suspect that it was to replace the CMC. I think the problem is probably the UL/CSA certification.
Looks like mostly Canadian Tire are under construction. I think some of these provinces do provide official 277/480V service. I wonder if that is...
This has advantages, such as making EV charging more reliable and the load easier to control during things like emergency evacuations where there...
I think the Dan's Food Market thing where they sometimes block half of the superchargers is well known.
"Gen2" would imply that hardware changes would be required.
Looks like Hydro One have different categories of service:
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