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I agree. However Tidal definitely sounds better when connected to the car is connected to WiFi and you are streaming in lossless quality.

That’s correct. They are ”free air” subwoofers. I’m concerned about this implementation as this type of subwoofer requires great sound dampening and will expose any rattles in the trunk area. I’m starting to think Tesla went the cheaper route in terms of speaker quality on the highland. More...

according to the manual, the detection indicator is only on the driver side..

We don’t know if the sound system is better. More speakers? Yes. Better quality speakers? That is still to be determined. It is entirely possible that Tesla is using less quality speakers.

Is there a better option for range that can handle some snow?

How do these compare to the Crossclimate 2 in terms of range and snow performance? I live in the Chicago area. For reference I have been totally fine with the MXM4 in the snow so range is a bit more important to me

If sales continue to slow, they could release the new Y before Q3.

This type of subwoofer typically requires the car has good sound dampening and tightly installed parts to reduce rattling, distortion, etc. Hopefully Tesla delivers quality sound….

Agreed. No radar but it will have the harness in place for a possible retrofit like the Y

I mean… is he wrong? It’s been almost a year and Tesla has not delivered summon, auto park and accurate distant readings on cars without USS.

I would have traded in a 2019 Model 3 LR RWD. I am in a similar boat in NJ (9k tax credits). I have 2 kids under 5 and 2 dogs so the Y, like you, makes a lot of sense. I could use the AWD as well. Ultimately, I think the FSD transfer offer will continue or come back. They built the process into...

I’ve made the decision. I backed out of my purchase (with FSD transfer) and will wait to buy a refreshed Y or a car from another manufacturer. I’ve driven the 23 Y a bunch of times. Great car but the lack of USS and front camera is awful. The 2023 models will be the only models without USS...

I think Tesla doesn’t want to advertise the camera because it will point to the fact that Vision may not be fully capable on the 2023 models. Smarter to be hush hush about it, for now.

That is basically what they just did.

What are the best All-Season or All-Weather tires for this car? I am in the Chicago area so I will deal with some snow (although we will use our Volvo mostly on snowy days). Are the CrossClimates2 compatible with this car? I don't see them as an option at Costco. I see BFGoodrich G-Force g-Force...

7500 (federal) + 1500 (state). To be honest, I’m actually going to cancel the order and wait for the front camera to be introduced to the Y or refreshed Ys. The 2023 Tesla models will be the ugly ducklings when it comes to Vision and Parking

This was my biggest fear and it clearly is going to be true. Just watch when they release S/X with front camera in Q1.

I think they extend the transfer to end of year. And likely bring it back at some point next year. They need sales.

I’m actually somewhat impressed. Excited for these changes to come to the Y.

What is the overall consensus on these tires? I’m considering these or BFGoodrich g-force. It is unclear to me which perform better in terms of range.

I bit the bullet. MYLR black with 20” rims and hitch for 49,720. Fremont build. No tax in NJ and 9k in incentives. I wanted to wait.

100% Hw4? 99% Matrix? This is a LR

Odds Vin 853xx from Fremont has HW4 and Matrix lights? I need to travel a bit to get the car so I want to make sure

Makes you wonder if the Model Y refresh is coming sooner than we think or they need more sales to hit EOQ and EOY goals

Yup, I’m on the fence on a 23 Y or waiting to see what the 24 Y or refreshed Y brings with the front bumper camera. Parking sensors are important to me.

Have you noticed any improvement to Vision distance readings?

It also impacts distance readings when not using those features. That’s my larger concern. USS is helpful when parking in/out tights spots, garages, doing u/k-turns, etc.

Any sign of auto park or summon? Has Vision accuracy improved?

On the bright side, you still have FSD enabled on a car that can actually use it!

Has Elon clarified if summon and parking features will return prior to 6 months? 2023 Tesla owners will have the least capable parking cars in the fleet without USS and a front Camera to make Vision more complete. I feel terrible for early Cybertruck owners. It is going to be fun parking...

I’m curious if his HW3 Model S has radar enabled I’m very curious about this as well.

Considering Tesla put effort to build some of the transfer process into the Tesla App, I am willing to bet they will offer the transfer again.

it also lacks summon, parking, etc features. It’s unclear if it will take 6 months for those features. At this point, I’m assuming 6 months. Ridiculous.

Agreed. I’m about to cancel my FSD transfer for a new Model Y.

Where does Elon state that HW4 cars will get FSD? To me, this seems like a new development that HW4 cars won’t get FSD for 6 months (at least)

Does this mean HW Model Ys aren’t getting FSD for 6 months?

That’s not good news for HW Model Ys

I’m curious if his HW3 Model S had radar enabled as part of v12. Was this asked Or addressed during the live stream?

I don’t think anyone knows the answer but the reduction in RAM and Storage is almost definitely due to cost reductions. However, it is possible that the Ys and 3s don’t need the extra RAM and Storage for their infotainment system as they lack features like dual screens. I think it is a...

Definitely following the above! Hoping the FSD promotion runs longer

I love my 2019 Model 3 and I enjoy AP/FSD but other brands are just as good and sometimes better depending on the situation. The gap in driving tech has been greatly reduced. There are many owners who feel this way and many reports stating the same. However, for what it’s worth, Tesla FSD is...

Ask them to fix and then accept the car. It’s a fair ask. Like dealers, they will pressure you to accept first but stand your ground and make them fix it.

Tesla is going to have a mess on their hands with all of the different variations of their cars if they do choose to re-introduce Radar (which they clearly are) and USS. The common buyer will have no idea that their car lacks these features when older models have these features. I need a new car...

What is the latest on the HW4 in Model Y? Is it definitely stripped down? Do we know if it is stripped down because the Y doesn’t need as much horsepower as an X/S?

What is the best method to confirm if a VIN has matrix?

Makes sense. Thanks.

How does the Performance model perform in chill mode in terms of range compared to the LR?

Are any of you concerned that HW4 Model Y will have inferior FSD capabilities (or none at all) and parking capabilities due to lack of Radar/USS/Front bumper camera?

Agree. Definitely better than Spotify. I thought Apple was streaming at lesser quality compared to Tidal (not using Wi-Fi/download)? I suppose I’ll give Apple another try.